Conclusion
Generally, when a product of this magnitude debuts, you hear polar opposite opinions of it—one from the company selling it, and another from that company’s competitor. ATI thinks that DirectX 11, stream computing, and Eyefinity are the ultimate combination of killer features for next-generation graphics. The opinions coming out of Nvidia are naturally quite opposed right now (at least until its own DirectX 11 boards are ready), favoring CUDA and the still-proprietary PhysX.
Where both companies do agree, however, is that initial reviews like this one are going to center on how the Radeon HD 5870 performs in today’s apps, and not what it might do given its future-looking specifications. The unfortunate fact of the matter is that much of what Cypress can do is still waiting to be exploited. We’re still waiting to see whether or not DirectX 11 makes more of an experiential impact than DirectX 10 or 10.1 did. We’ll have to wait for third-party developers to expose DirectCompute and OpenCL—there are no tests currently capable of measuring how Cypress handles DirectCompute, according to ATI. And we have to wait for ISVs to take advantage of ATI’s claimed protected audio path for Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD Master Audio bitstreaming to capable receivers.
Fortunately for ATI, even if we use the games people play today as a yardstick for evaluating Radeon HD 5870, the card still dominates the hardware it’s being put up against. The board consistently beats Nvidia’s GeForce GTX 285, trades blows with the Radeon HD 4870 X2, and is sometimes able to sneak past the GeForce GTX 295.
When you consider a $379 price point, the Radeon HD 5870 falls between the GeForce GTX 295 and the Radeon HD 4870 X2 (at $500, Nvidia has no choice but to cut the price on its GTX 295). Based on its performance alone, that’s very competitive. But ATI also has a handful of capabilities you can enjoy today. Add Eyefinity, CrossFire support, and idle power consumption one-third of its predecessor and ATI’s new flagship is still a solid win right now, even before factoring in the features and benefits this hardware will enable in the months to come. Never thought you'd see a reason to have so much graphics processing power (and don't own a 30" display)? Try gaming across three 20" or 24" displays. That'll tax this new GPU and give you a gaming experience you've never...er, experienced.
Without question, ATI once again wears the single-GPU performance crown, its Radeon HD 5870 effectively blending solid performance in today’s titles with the experience-oriented extras that’ll allow developers to create tomorrow’s games. Stay tuned for more on the Radeon HD 5850. That’s the board we’re betting on to make Cypress more affordable to cash-conscious gamers. After that will come the 5870 X2 and the innovative Eyefinity⁶ Edition boards.
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anyone seen these in the uk?
now this is someting. cant wait to see what nvidia will come up with.
does this mean that the prices of existing 48xx cards will go down?
They are scheduled for release on the 25th in the UK according to major online retailers expected stock date.
check out novatech and ebuyer.
http://www.novatech.co.uk/novatech [...] 800Series/
http://www.ebuyer.com/search?store [...] ubcat=2999
best price for 5870 £299.99 delivered ebuyer
My god the 4870x2 finally got a rival
Smooth gaming again!?!? YAY
available for pre order on scan.co.uk now £320
All those connectors are nice but first thing I thought when I first saw pictures was there is not enough vents on the backto cool that card properly. Hopefully some board partners will come up with versions with full PCI slot cooling. Eyfinity looks better, but all I need is two DVI connectors one for monitor and other for projector.
Now lets see what Nvidia brings out, lets hope something competitive in performance and price. I hope prices drop by Cristhmas to £200-259 for 5870
At guru3d they overclocked to 925 core/ 5400 memory could not go further because of temp problems. I wonder what would they do with better cooling. 1GHZ/6GHz?...Now that would be sweet.Link: http://www.guru3d.com/article/rade [...] ew-test/26
All those connectors are nice but first thing I thought when I first saw pictures was there is not enough vents on the backto cool that card properly. Hopefully some board partners will come up with versions with full PCI slot cooling.
Anandtech addressed this concern in their review: "As far as the 5870 is concerned, this is solid proof that the half-slot exhaust vent isn’t going to cause any issues with cooling."
Here's the source link to the above quotation.
Third time's the charm?
I have seen Anandtech's article, however they did hit 100C and started to throtle in /crossfire on Toms review and Guru3d temps limited overclocking so there is room for improvement in cooling.
Also I wonder if 2GB version would perform better at high resolutions with AA
No Crossfire? Really? What was ATI thinking releasing a top of the line video card that can't support a major feature set? One of the major selling points is that you can run 3 displays off this one card, yet you need to Crossfire two of these to get playable frame rates. Problem, you can't Crossfire these cards (yet?).
They should have dispensed with the third video connection in favor of extra ventilation, which it sounds like this card needs. If users are so gung ho about running 3 or more dispays, then wait for the Eyefinity card.
Glad to see ATI releasing a product that puts a boot up Nvidia's arse, but they shouldn't have released it without solving the Crossfire issue.
Must be mistake. Check benchmarks, they include crossfire results so it is working. They probably had the cards for some while for testing and started writing article and drivers did not support crossfire at the start and does support now. They just forgot to edit part of the article where it says that it does not support crossfire.
any word on when the 5670 is gonna come out
Yes, try www.overclockers.co.uk
£320 ouch, what a rip off and no Physx. I think this time round Nvidia's mid range card, the GTX360 will trounce all over this card from a great height.
£320 ouch, what a rip off and no Physx. I think this time round Nvidia's mid range card, the GTX360 will trounce all over this card from a great height.
Wow, 8 minutes before the first fanboi commentard...
As someone who holds allegiance with neither vendor -- both have a place in our house -- this looks great from a stirring-up the market perspective.
R.