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It only took two months, but AMD finally has a flagship to lead its march forward with Socket AM3.

We’re still not looking at a Core i7-killer (or even competitor) here. After all, AMD’s fastest offering isn’t able to match even the slowest i7 chip, unless you count gaming, where most of these quad-core chips perform so similarly that it isn’t worth factoring in the tenths of a frame.

Rather, AMD was gunning for Intel’s Core 2 Quad Q9550. That actually turns out to be a significant target, too. Aside from the DP-capable Core 2 Extreme QX9775—a $1,500 part—there is only one other Core 2 Quad left for AMD to usurp: the 3 GHz Core 2 Quad Q9650. Performance-wise, this means the Phenom II X4 955 is still an upper mid-range processor, dolled up with an unlocked clock multiplier and a platform message that bests the Core 2 Quad lineup (thanks to a strong software infrastructure supporting tweak-happy enthusiasts), yet falls short of Core i7 and its superior CrossFire/SLI ecosystem.

At the end of the day, this comes down to price for most folks. If a Phenom II X4 955 plus 790FX/GX-based motherboard plus 4 GB DDR3-1333 memory kit are the upper end of your budget (let’s call that about $500), you won’t go wrong here. We were only able to get 3.6 GHz out of the processor using AMD’s PIB heatsink/fan solution before peaking over 60 degrees C and losing Prime95 threads. Overclocking past that is going to take a more substantial cooler…and ideally not the first near-37 degree C day of the year in southern California. Conversely, AMD has a compelling collection of software to complement its hardware package—and with Overdrive 3.0 and Fusion, those apps have evolved beyond glorified BIOS modification to include a combination of extras you can use to save power, increase performance, and really take more granular control over how your PC operates.

But a Core i7 920 plus X58-based motherboard plus 6 GB DDR3-1333 kit costs about $100 more—that’s tantalizingly close, and frankly still the route we’d go given the many instances where even the 2.66 GHz processor simply walks the rest of the pack. You might not get Overdrive or Fusion, but the addition of CrossFire and SLI support is fairly significant, especially for the gamers who’ve stuck with Nvidia GPUs.

There’s no doubt that AMD is showing signs of life. The progression of its hardware plods along with the launch of this Phenom II X4 955 and the Radeon HD 4890 earlier this month.  The company’s in-house software folks are making a strong appeal to enthusiasts with a couple of interesting tuning utilities. And although we aren’t expecting changes to AMD’s chipset lineup until 2010, the 790GX/FX amply addresses discrete graphics connectivity. Until then, a shift to Socket AM3/DDR3 adds single-digit percent increases to an already-efficient memory subsystem.

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jennyh 23/04/2009 12:05
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I can barely believe this article started off talking about the Dragon platform, then you go and use a 280gtx in the gaming benchmarks even though you know it throws up varying results with the Nehalems.

Here's an idea - use the Dragon platform. I'm sure you can find a 4890 or 4870 X2 lying around somewhere.

mi1ez 23/04/2009 12:29
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I wouldn't even have spotted that. Good point well made.

It's St George's day, I want a dragon! :D

mi1ez 23/04/2009 12:31
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The newest version of WinRAR, on the other hand, follows after previous iterations and utilizes as many threads as you can throw at it—hence the Core i7’s commanding victory.

More odd is the X3 720s parity with AMD’s X4 940—a CPU that is both 200 MHz faster and one core stronger. Nevertheless, AMD shows very well against Intel’s Core 2 Quad Q9550, besting it by 16 seconds in our 334 MB compression routine.

Does this not suggest memory is critical?

Helloworld_98 23/04/2009 17:17
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would've liked to seen benchmarks with a 720 with unlocked core and overclocked to 3.2ghz involved so we can guage value for money better.

tstebbens 23/04/2009 17:24
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Quote :We’re still not looking at a Core i7-killer (or even competitor) here. After all, AMD’s fastest offering isn’t able to match even the slowest i7 chip, unless you count gaming, where most of these quad-core chips perform so similarly that it isn’t worth factoring in the tenths of a frame.


These are enthusiast parts and therefore primarily used in gaming machines.

I don't know of anyone who sits at their computer all day doing number crunching tasks (were the i7 excels) who cares about a 20% difference in execution time (you go for a coffee / watch TV / play a game / "play" ;) with your girlfriend) and miss the end of the run anyway; you don't sit there staring at a progress bar until it finishes.

So basically, unless you have a very specific application (you're a video editor for instance), what's the point in paying the 3x - 4x price premium for an i7 over an AMD? If you do, you're a mug - especially if the only reason is to brag you've got a faster machine.

wikd_wizz 23/04/2009 21:55
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So basically, unless you have a very specific application (you're a video editor for instance), what's the point in paying the 3x - 4x price premium for an i7 over an AMD? If you do, you're a mug - especially if the only reason is to brag you've got a faster machine.

Absolutely right. AMD is offering best buck for money here. Thinking selling my Core2Duo 6600 and going for Phenom II 955.

Anonymous 24/04/2009 18:16
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Why you don't use DDR3 1600MHz CL7 ???
Who will buy DDR3 1600MHz with CL6 ?

Thorak 06/05/2009 12:52
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An overclocked X3 720 its a steal.
Superb value for money

Thorak 06/05/2009 12:55
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An overclocked X3 720 BE its a steal.
Value for money cant get any better than this

Thorak 06/05/2009 12:55
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An overclocked X3 720 BE its a steal.
Value for money cant get any better than this

Thorak 06/05/2009 12:55
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An overclocked X3 720 BE its a steal.
Value for money cant get any better than this

diggos 15/05/2009 11:30
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Quote :We’re still not looking at a Core i7-killer (or even competitor) here. After all, AMD’s fastest offering isn’t able to match even the slowest i7 chip, unless you count gaming, where most of these quad-core chips perform so similarly that it isn’t worth factoring in the tenths of a frame
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I`m looking to build myself an i7 rig or AMD Phenom II one. What I`m looking at, are video conversions and lots of multitasking apps. It will take me a while to complete that, partly because I`m still saving for it, partly because I still don`t know if it`s worth extra 2000$ for i7 965 setup. And reading this article, I`m more confused than before.

Clearly i7 965 trashes amd in any test, but for what I need, it seems that 955 PhenomII will do just fine.......financially, I cannot afford another upgrade anytime soon....

So...what I really want? A super fast, future proof i7 chip or just a fast quad that will do for now??? I don`t know....I think I`ll stick wit my dual core for the next couple of years, cos I`m too confused..........

greatgooglymugly 21/05/2009 18:29
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Picture of the heatsinks seems to be reversed in the pic describing the reduction in size of the new heastsink.

luke904 18/06/2009 02:33
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the 955 is a better processor than the i7 920 simply because of price, its like $50 cheaper, generally plays games better, and is almost as fast in every other area.
another thing to note: motherboards for intel are more expensive than amd ones.

Anonymous 25/06/2009 05:28
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bueno con una combinacion de un phenom II 955BE 16gb de DDR3-1333 pc3-10500 y cuatro targetas de graficas Ati Radeon HD4890 en un mother MSI
790FX-GD70 y cuatro discos Seagate de 500GB funcionan mejor en graficos que cualquier core i7 a la misma velocida ya que los board con chips intel solo pueden tener 3 targetas de video.

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