Keeping It Cool
Cool processors clock higher and survive longer, but finding an inexpensive cooler in the preferred 120mm tower design able to support both AMD and Intel processors isn’t easy. Rosewill surprised us with a review sample that included an AMD-style clip, since its Fort 120 doesn’t advertise Socket AM2+/AM3 compatibility on the box. Readers should look forward to a review of this unit later this month.
This is the point where some die-hard overclockers might point out that, since we used top-end motherboards, we should also use a top-end liquid cooling system. But while budget overclockers might be able to find less expensive motherboards that replicates our results, the same cannot be said of liquid cooling. We wanted to provide a realistic, yet optimistic target for value-overclockers to use as a goal.
One other place we didn’t go cheap was in thermal compound selection. The Fort 120 cooler does not include enough thermal paste for multiple uses, so we instead relied on our established thermal grease choice.
Zalman’s ZM-STG1 was chosen for previous reviews based on its easy application, quick set in time, and upper-range thermal performance. Upon request, the firm supplied enough samples for each U.S. editor to have two bottles.
Thermal grease or paste fills small gaps between the processor and heat sink to provide a greater contact area. Many experienced builders swear that too heavy a layer will prevent proper sink contact, citing the lower conductivity of thermal compound compared to the aluminum or copper surface it fills, but most modern thermal materials are thin enough that heat sink pressure will squeeze out any excess. The real problem of applying too much paste is that it can make a mess of the motherboard, and its low-conductivity is still enough to potentially cause signal or voltage problems.
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Using top end motherboards isn't really budget overclocking, a cheap p43 board is sufficient for e5200 overclocking, additionally a q9400 is only 25% more than a q8200 and overclocks to 3.5Ghz with ease
..or allows, considering different models often come off the same wafer xD
Still, I doubt the AMD-basher's will let that one rest..
I like it. I like to see how far we can push this technology as well as how to keep the idle TDP as low as possible. I think the phenom II 955 suits me the best. AMD overdrive allows you to set both preformance settings as well as the idle settings. Something were i7 failt for me.
I would like to keep cool and quiet on at all times because i dont would want a high power bill and because my computer is on for a few days in a row. So my challenge would be how can i keep the voltage and clocks very low at idle but maintain a resonable desktop preformance. However for gaming i can use some extra headroom. i like to fine tune it well.
Why the hell did you choose an 8200? That makes no sense at all, its poor overclocking performance is widely documented.
Better would be to choose something else, then have a side note saying 'do not buy this part to OC'.
if you want a cheap stable intel overclockable intel quad core look for a Q6600 or if you really want a challenge look for a Q6700, both are very good OCers but are EOLed
Strange to think its Intel that got an unfair bashing this time around. Using top-end mobos in a budget OC session is a major no-no. Using a Q8200 instead of something closer to the X4-955BE's price tag, like the Q9300, is just plain stupid.
To be honest, switching to budget mobos wouldn't have affected the outcome that much; from what reviews I've heard the MSI 770-C45 is a perfectly decent AM3 budget OC board going for a pittance and there are a few MSI and Gigabyte P35/P43 mobos in the same price range on the Intel side of things.
I need to get out of my closet and start reading these forums way more.
Thanks for a very interesting thread
(Even if criticed by some)
e5200 oc at fsb 1066 (no voltage increasing)
What would be the lifespan of the processor.