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Overclocking Intel's Pentium E5200

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As with AMD, Intel’s production technology already has well-known voltage limits affecting the majority of samples. For 45 nm processors based on the Core 2 architecture, CPU core voltage of 1.45 V is generally considered to be the maximum a processor can withstand over a period of many weeks or a few months. We’ve already seen an “office” system that was overclocked using 1.45 volts lose much of its overclocking capability over a period of around three months. This family of processors continues to scale well, even at much higher voltage levels, but cooling and longevity become an issue.

Because we want our overclocks to last at least several months (and we keep our fingers crossed for 1-3 years of reliable service), we chose 1.40 volts as a target setting under full CPU load and 1.43 volts peak under no load. Knowing the desired voltage level ahead of time negated the normal practice of increasing voltage in small steps until the system became stable after reaching a clock rate that would have otherwise been unstable.

The screenshots below show our final settings: P45 Diamond users must be forewarned that this memory setting required a jumper change which we’ll discuss further down this page.

Except for its Extreme Edition models, Intel doesn’t allow adjusting its CPU multipliers upward. Using a 12.5x multiplier and 200 MHz FSB clock (FSB-800 via QDR technology), the only way this 2.50 GHz CPU would go faster would be to set a higher FSB. Knowing that the Pentium E5200 should reach at least 3.60 GHz with air cooling, we first tried the next-higher Intel-standard FSB of 266 MHz (FSB-1066). The system booted normally and passed a 40-minute stress test using Prime95 v25.8 build 4. CPU-Z reported core voltage dropping to 1.38V under load however, so we increased the BIOS setting “CPU Voltage (V)” (second screenshot above) to 1.4132 volts. This resulted in 1.424 volts at idle and 1.408 volts at full load.

The MSI P45 Diamond supports most FSB clock settings, but we knew that the chipset would be most stable at or near one of Intel’s standard bus speeds. Our next attempt, FSB-1333 (333 MHz clock) would boot inconsistently, resulting in either a black screen or a system reset following the POST screen. After finding success at 320 MHz “most of the time,” we began to believe that our previous memory ratio problem was being caused by a dreaded bootstrap issue.

The P45 Diamond doesn’t have “bootstrap” settings in BIOS but does have two jumpers for altering detected bus speed. According to the manual, changing both jumpers from pins 1-2 to pins 2-3 would allow a 200 MHz FSB processor to be detected as a 333 MHz FSB version. Following those instructions solved both the memory ratio and boot inconsistency problems.

The system now booted at 333 MHz, but extended stability tests proved it wasn’t completely stable. In an effort to keep the system close to the 333 MHz “Intel standard” bus, we dropped the CPU multiplier to 12x.

The CPU clock of 12 x 333 MHz proved stable for a longer one-hour Prime 95 test. Jumping ahead slightly, 338 MHz was also stable. We continued increasing FSB and testing stability until it was found that the highest stable CPU speed was 4.1 GHz at 12 x 342 MHz FSB.

Using our memory manufacturer’s rated setting of 1.65 volts, we began chasing good memory performance to match that impressive 64% CPU overclock. Intel’s DRAM multiplier limit of 2 x FSB clock unfortunately meant that our RAM could be set no higher than a 684 MHz clock, corresponding to a data rate of DDR3-1368.

We began testing lower memory latency values to improve response time, using a bootable CD version of Memtest86+ v1.70 in the same manner that Prime95 was used for CPU stability testing. Since the memory controller is part of the northbridge, we experimented with increased “MCH Voltage” (second screenshot above) until it was found that anything higher than 1.352 volts provided no further improvement.

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Anonymous 20/07/2009 11:18
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Using top end motherboards isn't really budget overclocking, a cheap p43 board is sufficient for e5200 overclocking, additionally a q9400 is only 25% more than a q8200 and overclocks to 3.5Ghz with ease

wild9 22/07/2009 17:12
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Quote :Overclocking is a collection of methods for making components run faster than the manufacturer intended.


..or allows, considering different models often come off the same wafer xD

wild9 22/07/2009 17:18
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Quote :Disappointing headroom in the Q8000-series and a price-exclusion for Core i7 allow AMD's Phenom II X4 955 Black Edition to earn our value-overclocking recommendation for quad-core CPUs.


Still, I doubt the AMD-basher's will let that one rest..

spearhead 27/07/2009 19:21
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I like it. I like to see how far we can push this technology as well as how to keep the idle TDP as low as possible. I think the phenom II 955 suits me the best. AMD overdrive allows you to set both preformance settings as well as the idle settings. Something were i7 failt for me.
I would like to keep cool and quiet on at all times because i dont would want a high power bill and because my computer is on for a few days in a row. So my challenge would be how can i keep the voltage and clocks very low at idle but maintain a resonable desktop preformance. However for gaming i can use some extra headroom. i like to fine tune it well.

parge 02/08/2009 14:28
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Why the hell did you choose an 8200? That makes no sense at all, its poor overclocking performance is widely documented.

Better would be to choose something else, then have a side note saying 'do not buy this part to OC'.

Anonymous 03/08/2009 14:59
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if you want a cheap stable intel overclockable intel quad core look for a Q6600 or if you really want a challenge look for a Q6700, both are very good OCers but are EOLed

Solitaire 08/08/2009 02:08
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Strange to think its Intel that got an unfair bashing this time around. Using top-end mobos in a budget OC session is a major no-no. Using a Q8200 instead of something closer to the X4-955BE's price tag, like the Q9300, is just plain stupid.

To be honest, switching to budget mobos wouldn't have affected the outcome that much; from what reviews I've heard the MSI 770-C45 is a perfectly decent AM3 budget OC board going for a pittance and there are a few MSI and Gigabyte P35/P43 mobos in the same price range on the Intel side of things.

Katash 20/08/2009 22:08
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I need to get out of my closet and start reading these forums way more.

Thanks for a very interesting thread :D
(Even if criticed by some)

nikko_lp640 27/11/2009 11:29
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e5200 oc at fsb 1066 (no voltage increasing)
What would be the lifespan of the processor.

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