Download the Tom's Hardware App from the App Store
The reference for current tech news
Yes No

Where’s The Bottleneck?

by

TH: You mentioned striping SSDs. What performance increase have you seen there? Does it scale linearly or taper off like hard drives?

LK: Oh, yeah. It gets up to about 600 or 700 MB/sec when we've messed around with an integrated Intel RAID controller. After that, adding any more doesn't really help. So technically, I guess, after the third drive. You can gain capacity after that, just not performance. But it does scale especially if you go with a discrete RAID controller. You can benchmark with Iometer and see the scores pretty much double with two drives. The bandwidth doubles. The random IOPS will pretty much double. At IDF last year, we had four of the E-class Kingston drives, and we were displaying 1,000 MB/sec sequential read speeds using a high-end Adaptec RAID controller.

TH: Are we being bottlenecked already by the SATA 3 Gb/s interface? Do we need to move SSDs onto a 6 Gb/s connection?

LK: I think you're going to need the controllers to support it. That's probably a bigger issue. Some drives already have the current SATA II spec pinned in terms of performance. Tony, how much better will SATA III make SSDS?

TC: For the next generation, SATA III, we still need to go back and look at the semiconductor road map. How fast of a raw speed can we get from the NAND flash? Also, the design architecture from the SATA SSD controller interface—how many channels can be accessed at the same time? Those will determine the upgrades necessary for SATA III in the future. Everybody is concerned about how we can accommodate 6 Gb/s transfer rates and how to accomplish that. I know Micron has already announced the first one. Everybody is looking to see how this will perform in the next two years.

TH: So I shouldn't get excited about product shipping next week.

LK: Yeah, I don't think Intel is talking about it on desktop boards until 2011. But it's a big deal. It means adoption from the big PC OEMs. At this point, it's more of a DIY play.There are several motherboards already supporting 6 Gb/s via add-on controllers. It's exciting, to be sure, but I think from a consumer standpoint USB 3.0 is a lot more exciting to me right now. On the USB side—I know this is a little off-topic—we're shipping 128GB and 256GB USB drives. A guy who's buying that isn't just going to copy a couple of files over. Try moving 40GB at USB 2.0 speeds. You can go get lunch, come back, and it's still going, right?

TH: Oh, sure! I put your drive in a $25 enclosure and—bam! All that speed ran into the USB interface brick wall. Going to USB 3.0 suddenly gets us a lot more speed for our external storage.

LK: Absolutely. And at that point, could it be bootable? Could you boot to an external SSD on USB 3.0? At 4.8 Gb/s? Yeah, you probably could.

TH: Great idea. So that's your next product?

LK: [laughs] Yeah, we'll see.

Share:
7
Comments
X
Submit

Comments
Read the comments on the forums
Anonymous 08/02/2010 11:45
Hide
-0+

Thanks for that, very interesting. I found the video of the baseball bat test; robust little drive, isn't it?

If I have an SSD as a boot drive and a mechanical hard drive for mass storage, am I better off putting the Windows swap on the mechanical drive?

Also, will I kill an SSD in short order if I put an encrypted volume (e.g. TrueCrypt) on it that uses most of the space on the drive?

Alan.

shanky887614 08/02/2010 17:16
Hide
-0+

interesting

1mill hours divided by 24 =41,666 divide 365 = 114 somehow i dont think they will run constantly for 100+ years

Skid 09/02/2010 13:54
Hide
-0+

Why is that video not on the article?! Come on I bet you anything you when looking for it after you finished speaking with them.

enkidoe 09/02/2010 20:36
Hide
-0+

pitty they are still so expensive. cant wait to get 1

kesgreen 16/02/2010 20:23
Hide
-0+

A pity that Kingston didn't make sure they were going to be allowed to have TRIM support on the Intel-based 40GB SSDNow drive. People who bought them were lied to by Kingston (who said that TRIM would be supported) and have had to hack firmware to enable TRIM. There have been no explanations or apologies from either Kingston or Intel and as a result, I for one would be wary of companies who treat their customers in such a shoddy way.

dcssr 10/05/2010 21:54
Hide
-0+

If you use SSD's in a Raid, does Windows 7 still use TRIM. Also, does Windows Web Server 2008 R2 use TRIM with SSD's in a Raid?

Thanks,

dcssr 10/05/2010 22:24
Hide
-0+

What a great blog about SSD's. It answers many questions I have. So Would it be correct for me to assume that if I used an Intel Motherboard wtih the built-in ICH10R controller running Windows 7 or Windows Web Server 2008 R2 (I think it is base on Windows 7) in a Raid 5 configuration, 4 drives (3 for the Striping Array and 1 for the parity) would maximize on its potential. Also, would I notice much improvement with an external RAID controller. I will be using the Intel S5520HCR motherboard and the 2 XEON X5650 processors.

Thanks

Best offers

Newsletters


OK