Nvidia: GeForce GTX 480 Was Designed to Run Hot

Designed to run hot? Yeah.

no you basicly benchmarked your card and found it didnt perform as well as ATI's new cards so you shoved a huge heat sink on it and over clocked it until it was.

well done!

just like how amd purposefully designs cpus slower than intel so that they draw less power!!!

I seriously wish they would make something that can compete against the Ati 4770, because i dont want to have to upgrade my PSU just to buy a more powerful graphics card.

temperature in pc case will rise and overclockin will suffer

They don't care about that

Yes, this is total BS. You never design something to run hot. You'll try to make it as cool as possible. They just couldn't make it cooler.

ATIs 5000 series deliver enough power and dont need nether a nuclear reactor to sustain the power input needed nor to be used only under 90º S 0º E (usually known as Antartica)

I must admit, it is not looking good for the GTX 480 and 470.
A bit of a let down to say the least.

Wait... your kidding right?? All the leaked info is turning out to be true?? This card is running 20% to 50% hotter than the current ATI generation for a 5% to 10% gain??? No way!!

I'm not a fan boy of anything, I buy what is the best at the time of upgrading my system... but honestly after waiting over 6 months for Nvidia to catch up with ATI, glad I dropped the GTX 295 for a 5870HD!!

Hello ATI one new customer !

What he said.

No effect on the chip? I don't care about that, it raises overall case temps and affects the rest of things.

ATIs 5970 runs plenty more powerfull with less temp and simular powers.

*Turns to ATI*

I had two 8800's in SLI and kept having problems with the PC shutting down because of too much heat in the case... despite having a 250mm and two 120mm fans with good airflow (tested it with the smoke from a joss stick!) I sold them and bought a GTX260 in the end - more performance with less heat.

Sounds like if I get one of these I'll be back to the same situation. Looks like it's an AMD card for me when I do come to upgrade next.

Lets take it from the start... first of u say that they run 20-50% hotter that seemed like a lot so i went over Tom's own review of the temperatures... if u look at the gtx 480 and 5780 u will see that the temperature difference is a small 7c when loaded...

And as u will see the 5870 is at 92c... 20% incress would be 18.4c.. so u are telling the 480 should be at 110.4c when its only on 97c.
good try i say


Link to Tom's review
http://www.tomshardware.com/galler [...] -jpg-.html

overall i dont see the small jump with 7c as a problem.. unless u havea case with one fan (and in that case u are stupid), but if u are a normal erson and have some cooling that work this small increse should be no problem..

now to your next thing... so u changed from a gtx 295 to a 5870.. well first if we look on the temperatures u get the same no difference there.

if we then look at what the two cards can do:

295 beats 5870 in Call of Duty Modern Warfare 2
http://www.tomshardware.com/galler [...] -jpg-.html

295 is almost even with 5870 in Crysis
http://www.tomshardware.com/galler [...] -jpg-.html

295 beats 5870 in STALKER
http://www.tomshardware.com/galler [...] -jpg-.html

and at last the 3DMark Cantage score
http://www.tomshardware.com/galler [...] -jpg-.html

overall i would say it was stupid to change from 295 to 5780 unless you simply had to have a dx11 card for the ONE game at that time that could use dx11

seems like nVidia is loosing this year...

loosing... no

this is the first generation of the gpu lets see what the future bring

Some questions for you renegade:

How much is a GTX295 (in stock)?

How much is the power consumption?

based on 3 games and a syntetic benchmark would you really say that it's even or close?

What about feature set?

;-)

"" The Nvidia GeForce GTX 480 is a hot card, both figuratively and literally. It features the latest and greatest from Nvidia, and it also runs quite hot when asked to push pixels. Those looking for lowering their energy consumption from their computers aren't likely to find their greenest solutions in the GTX 480. But according to Nvidia, that's the way it's meant to be played. ""

ya ya NVIDIA slogan: The way it's meant to be played.
lol

This does not make sense. If the card is also aimed at the super computing sector as well (Cuda), who in the right mind would deploy a bank of these. The power usage and heat generated would be enough for some design specialists to say, "This is simply not suitable or an option".

Why does Nvidia consider this acceptable? Every other component is headed down in power consumption and heat, but they see this as an unavoidable tradeoff. ATI seems to be producing more and more powerful cards with less power consumption and less heat. Sounds like a complete cop-out by Nvidia.

Designed to run hot = defective by design

If Nvidia made ovens it'd be ok, but rest assured Nvidia, this red hot pile of molten cack will never find a home in my PC.

Nice how they contradict themselves.

It's ment to run at a high tempreature, the tradeoff is right.

If it worked the way it was intended there would be no bloody tradeoff you fool !

What a load of shite!!!

What a load of shite!!!

Unless the chip is made of kryptonite or the laws of physics have recently been repealed, heat is the enemy of all semiconductors.

"The chip is designed to run at high temperature so there is no effect on quality or longevity."

Apparently, the GTX 480 was designed to die a quick death. Unfortunately, it will be a painful one for the user.

This is awesome! i have an M17x with Dual GTX 260M and they arent TOO bad, but, imaging when the evolution of the 470M/480M comes to pass! You would be buying expensive Lapwarmers and a heavy heavy machine.
As if the M17X with its issues wasnt bad enough, but even Alienware have moved to ATI cards for the systems.
Great work Nvidia!

The opposite of such statement was the reason I got my new ATI card...

All ATi need to do is hire competant driver software developers and crank out decent, stable drivers that fix several year old problems.

Its the only reason I'm continuing to wait for some sort of Nvidia 495 or something similar.

This generation of graphic cards is the first since the TNT2 I turned away from nVidia in favor of the competition. Enough said.

It's a healthy market when the price/performance leader changes from time to time. It's even healthier for our wallets!