Quirks, Frustrations, And Compliance Woes
One quirk on the Gigabyte 780G board is that HCDP compliance only works over the HDMI connection. This is likely a cost-saving measure on Gigabyte’s part, with the result that trying to play back protected content over the DVI connection will not work...
...unless you have a way around it. One option would be to shell out another $115 to Slysoft for its excellent AnyDVD HD app able to decrypt HDCP playback in software, so you don’t need an HDCP-compliant monitor or graphics card. This is a pretty hefty expense for folks who have a great high-resolution monitor with no HDMI connection (like myself) and it could have been avoided by simply making the DVI output on the motherboard HDCP-compliant.
Of course, there are much cheaper options. The issue can also be avoided by purchasing a cheap discrete card with DVI and HDMI output like the 2400 PRO. But if I have to do that, why am I buying a motherboard with Blu-ray capable integrated graphics?
The cheapest alternative is to use an HDMI cable with an HDMI-to-DVI converter on one end. We tried the DVI-to-HDMI converter bundled with a separate Radeon HD 4870 card, but wasn’t sure this would work. Its purpose is to convert the DVI output from the Radeon card into an HDMI cable format—the exact opposite of what we were doing. Luckily, using the HDMI output of the motherboard and attaching the DVI-to-HDMI converter directly to the monitor seemed to do the trick. HDCP compliance was achieved and the system had no trouble playing back protected Blu-ray disks.
The ECS GF8200A board avoids the issue by offering only an HDMI connection with an analog output instead. Of course, it the analog output doesn’t support HDCP, and wouldn’t let us go higher than 1650x1080 for Blu-ray playback. Of course, using an HDMI-to-DVI converter is an option, as it is with the Gigabyte board.
Now, I can understand the argument that these boards are targeted at home-theater PC users who are much more likely to have an HDMI connection, but it still doesn’t make a whole lot of sense to me that those with HDCP-capable DVI monitors are left looking for workarounds. What about students relying on their PCs for entertainment?
Apart from this, everything went fairly smoothly with Blu-ray playback, but there were a few other issues. First of all, the most recent WHQL-compliant Nvidia 175.19 driver proved MUCH slower than the newest 177.92 beta drivers in our testing. People who assume WHQL is the way to go will be experiencing much choppier Blu-ray playback than intrepid folks who install the beta software.
Also, a CrossFire test using the Catalyst 8.7 drivers seemed to muck up HD playback capabilities until the newer Catalyst 8.8 drivers were installed. Using the 780G platform, we did experience some rare quirks where PowerDVD would sometimes refuse to play back a disk. After running the Cyberlink Blu-ray compliance tester, which would show everything was OK, playback would work fine.
ECS GF8200A Motherboard And Stuttering Video
We encountered an irritating, but very easy to fix, issue with our ECS GF8200A motherboard. It seems that in some cases, the board will default to a 200 MHZ HyperTransport speed. This low speed won’t really demonstrate itself in regular system operation and the machine will seem to work fine until any graphics power is required, such as a game or Blu-ray playback. If HyperTransport is left at 200 MHz, game and HD video will stutter like it’s running on a 15 year old computer.
Happily, the only fix required is to go into the BIOS during start-up and set the HyperTransport speed to “Auto” instead of “200.” After that, the machine will run smooth as silk. It’s nice that the fix was this simple, but it was a real pain trying to diagnose the issue.
It would have been nice to see a 780G board with sideport memory in this test (e.g. GA-MA78GPM-DS2H) as this is meant to improve performance.
Im shocked that they have chosen to use 1 dimm configuration.
both motherboards, due to the nature of the AMD platform, support dualo channel configuration to increase memory bandwidth, which would also have been enjoyed by the intergrated GPU's.
I know toms argue that the likly configuration in this set up would be 1GB, but if u were a self builder you would choose 2x512 to maximise the platforms abilitys.
not good imho.
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Or alternatively this was a test to see how well everything runs without dual channel support. You'd be surprised at the number of shop-bought systems that only have 1 RAM chip in them.
Nice article, I had been looking into using PureVideo with the GFX card I just bought.
Just one criticism: Using red and green lines for the charts on page 7 made it nearly impossible for me to tell which line was for which card, as I have deuteranomaly, which is a mild form of red-green color blindness. You should use slightly different colors for charts like that.