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Holy crap, he's basically saying he's the "jesus" of the anti- piracy movement.

This type of mentality is suspect to me though. Even if the game sucks, you used it, for free. Admit that there are a few games you probably played all the way through and didnt buy. I find it hard to believe after downloading a full version game, that you go out and purchase the ones you like, If you in fact do purchase some of the games you download, it's probably multiplayer games, or maybe a game that just knocks your socks off, you probably chaulk the ones that were enjoyable but you may never play again in the dont buy bin, but you infact were entertained for a period of time by a piece of software you didnt pay for.

[quotemsg=599125,34,318097]Maybe some people outside of the USA can't afford to buy them or live in remote areas where the nearest game shop might require a 100 mile journey. Even that said what if you can't buy the game anymore what do you do then. By the looks of your system specs it seems you don't have a shortage of money either so you can buy what you want but some people work hard to earn a meal a day yet you say they have plenty to buy a game.[/quotemsg]


My mentality is, if you can't afford a game, you can't afford a computer good enough to play said game. Anyone with a computer and internet access can't give me some sob story about barely getting a meal a day.

If you can afford a computer, you can afford a game. I had a job in highschool, I could buy games. I had a job in college I could buy games. I have a job out of college, I can buy games. I am sure the primary contributers to Piracy are jobless kids/Teenagers and jobless 20 sumthing layabouts feeding off mom and dad.

I did that, particularly when money was an issue. Since then I seem more likely to buy games and never play them. I have probably a dozen still in shrinkwrap, they looked good at the time and I just never got to them. Perhaps this is why I prefer console games now, there's no installation or issues, it's already optimized for the available hardware, just insert the disk and go.

Maybe when I retire, if the hardware still supports them, I'll finally play the PC games I have around.
Being a packrat's NOT a virtue though.

HAHA, like I said, I don't think that anyone scrimping for cash to get by in life is going to come home to a Counter Strike Lan party.

There was a game I played for free then bought it becuase the I liked the game even though I completed it. It was CoD4 but I don't want people to think I was defending piracy I admit its wrong I was presenting an arguement for those who don't think its wrong. It seems I have actualy made myself look like a pirate when in fact I regularly buy software even with DRM which doesn't really bother me only music DRM bothers me since I can't share my music with friends (iTunes) when I can with a CD

Do you realize your concept despite the sob story for poor college students, when applied to any other medium will get you tossed in jail.

Ok poor college student loves drinking, but no money for beer? What to do? Go to the Liquor store and STEAL IT! its ok because I don't have money and I am entitled to it, because I can't afford it.

Some of you people can't get beyond the fact that just because it's not a physical medium, it's no less theft. It's this thing called "principal". I went to college like many other people, my parents didn't pay, I joined the National guard and the government footed the bill. I have no pity for anyone giving me the can't afford it so I steal it mentality, you can do something other than stealing to secure your end.

Let me put it this way, do you see a difference between downloading the game and going to best buy and lifting it? You shouldn't because there is no difference. I think it just speaks volumes of the majority of people's nature, when the is little to no chance whatsoever of being caught they will commit crimes.

Just because "you wouldnt buy it anyway" does not make it any less wrong because the fact of the matter is if you really wanted a game, and couldn't steal it online you would find a way to pay for it.

I don't know about the OP, but there is no luck involved. If you make an effort to secure a better station in life it will happen. If you can't afford a video game as an adult, you should be concentrating bettering your life instead of playing videogames. No one dropped anything in my lap, I got good grades in school, Joined the Army Guard as means to attend college and got a good job.

I don't know... maybe I am not being clear enough as people seem to keep pulling the wrong ideas from my posts....

I DO NOT ENDORSE PIRACY, I DO NOT DEFEND PIRACY! Is that clear enough? Do I need to put that at the beginning of every post I make?

Providing a reason is not the same thing as providing an excuse. I am explaining the behavior not condoning it. It seems that some of you anti pirate people would like to see pirates drawn and quartered for your amusement. It just isn't that big of a crime. I am not saying it is legal or that it should be, just that it is not as big a deal as you make it out to be. Must everything be black and white?

As said before, we will never stop piracy, it happens, it has happened, it will continue to happen. Better than trying to stop it would be trying to understand it and figure out ways to encourage people who would otherwise pirate, to buy instead. Just bashing the pirates repeatedly will only make them more belligerent. How about trying to think of something that might actually be beneficial instead?

In all fairness, there's a **** huge difference. You might not agree with either one, but I sure as **** would be much less upset about someone copying code or graphics I created vs. someone breaking into my house and stealing my computer. In fact, someone might have already copied code I've written, and I just don't know it yet. You can bet your ass I'd immediately know if someone stole my computer. You can argue that neither is right, but seriously, think of a better analogy.

Ok, how bout this one: Pirating a game online is like having phone sex w/ someone else's girlfriend, you're not physically doing it, but you better beleive that he's still going to come after you with a baseball bat. And in my opinion that 'baseball bat' is the DRM that we are seeing, unfortuantely those who end up getting beaten are the legit customers. Thanks alot pirates.

LMAO. That's actually probably one of the funniest, and most accurate comparisons with piracy I've heard thus far. Bravo.

What? It works. I'm sure developers are personally upset by piracy, and that's a more valid argument than saying all forms of piracy cause lost profits. Some circumstances it doesn't necessarily. But ANY form of piracy could potentially piss of the developers or make them feel like ****.

Alright...here is a reply for you...

I totally agree with you, I pirated a ton of crap because I did not want to spend the money. Now, however, I buy ALL my software, which is usually used, because 50 bucks for a game is nuts. Maybe the devs aren't getting my whole 50 bucks, but the kid that sold me his game can use my money to put towards that copy of crysis and I didn't steal it.

That said, I gladly pirated my copy of xp AND vista ! Why ?! Because I bought every copy of windows and every copy was just the same old crap with a few tweaks. Xp comes along and wow, it has something useful, remote assistance, now I can help my mom and friends out of state right ? Whoa sorry, MS decides to rip out the one really useful feature so as to gouge the consumers that need it for more than double the price ! Guess what..F.. them ! Now with vista, I sure a hell was not gonna pay almost 300 bucks for the "good" version when I am not even sure if it's worth it, especially when I can't just stop using it and send it back ! Now that I have used it awhile, I am actually saving up to BUY it, so MS still gets their money.

I don't agree with pirating (except a company that cripples the regular versions, so as to gouge you on the "pro" ), so I DO buy my stuff.

DRM is exactly BECAUSE of the pirates, this argument that they shouldn't have it is crap and here is why:

If they do nothing at ALL (whether effective or not, or cracked the first week or NOT) then they are just as bad as ppl who leave their keys in the car. Sure the theif is the guilty party for stealing it, but leaving the car alarm off and window rolled down and keys in the visor just makes it EASIER, and ME a dumbass in real life for doing it. Publishers need to at least TRY to do something or else their guilty of being lax.

Also...that avatar IS super flaming GHAYEE, but if you roll like that, fine by me.

This is for all the "this thread already exists" replies:

Even if it does, who gave you sole right to dictate what and how many threads can be started, maybe I then have the right to tell you to STFU because someone already stated that before you did.

Dude should be able to rant and start the thread regardless if it's a rehash or not, this isn't the Chinese internet !

@AMDDANGIRL...no, I meant the angel avatar...lol. I hear, it's raining men..with pictures of guys in black leather chaps when I look at it.