I5 vs i7 Feeling ripped off? - Page 6

The results I've seen had no SMT, and it was a quad.

One thing, and very important according to this roadmap


The 750 comes in at 3.33 stock, and here its listed at 2.66. Either its a typo spmewheres, or the 750 is gonna rock

Never mind, I see where I went wrong heheh. AAAARRRGH, all this new naming has me cunfuzzled

It's not gonna be 100% accurate, but hey!

At least weve figured out what the compliance/meaning of i7 is, needs smt and quad
i5? anything goes
i9? hex if I know

Thats it, im moving out... I cant keep up anymore, my brains beginning to hurt..


All im going to do is cut peoples grass all day for a living as working on computers is now becomming to a "im never happy" standard of living because you always feel inadequate with what youve got....


Hey guess what USB 3 is not really necessary yet. fire wire 3 is not requred yet. USB 2 does video conversion - etc.
Sata 3 - mmm the bottle neck is now inside the hard disk not on the outside.
PCI 3 --- yeah if there were games which took advantage of pci 2 if there are any !!!
Quad core - Core i 7 - still away of yet to get the apps and games were looking for and then guess what they release Core i 5 in a month
Nvidias n200 being replaced by a all in one and now we can have a ati and a gtx in the same machine working together...

ddr1 to ddr 2 to ddr 3 - is there really that much of a wow factor speed boost

Bring back the days of slot loading cd drives, floppies, game play ( yup remember that one ), windows you could remove a virus from in dos mode, Winfax ( loved that software ) etc etc as then we were happy users of which today we are not.

Hehe, remeber when games were actually fun to play?

The latest rounds of games are nothing like the classics.

But we don't call 'em classics for nothing.

Most games smell really stale these days...

Actually they are a lot like the classics, that's the problem. There is nothing new under the sun.

Am I alone in feeling that computers have lost their edge or have i just been doing it for too long..

I know one thing a 10 year old Terminator game plays better than that Salvation rubbish i spent 30 quid on...

What a load of crap...

I enjoyed Ghostbusters ( the new one ) as its just a simple mind blast of what games should be - fun.

Not worrying about how many fish are going get hurt when i blow up battleships in the Mediterainian and then go on to see how i can resusitate the dead or patch up peoples wounds with a medical patch even though there heads fell off and have all there bodily fluids removed.

Everythings so over complicated that the game is not even playable now... Look at GTA IV, i felt i needed to get to know that prostitutes mum and dad before i hit her ( im getting facetious now i know ) but you know what i mean.

Thats why Left 4 Dead was so good. You didnt need ages to play it as you could jump straight in by putting lead in the chops of a mangled manky human. But you got better as you went along. Understanding the levels, where extra medical patches hid. Graphics are not on par with Crysis but then what is.


Stroll on old style games

Lucas Arts - you just must re - release Xwing and Tie fighter games and especially Dark Forces series on a new engine - keep the game the same and I will forgive George Lucas for Jar Jar Binks.

I want D 3 lol, I had a lvl 93 barb on D2 ladder, but got bored and then headed over to WoW for my community based (read, not pwning 12 yr old randoms on counter strike source and hearing their QQing rofl) gaming.

My question is, whats on Intels roadmap that changes anything that we dont already know about? Sandybridge? Late in 2010? Close to BD release? And possibly K10.5 having a 32nm with HKMG in the interum?
This is as possible as the above statement, as the above foresees none of this, while all of this could happen by then, so lets just wait n see

2nd half '10 is 32nm at GF, last Id heard

Me either, its sort of muddied there. Maybe for ST only early on?

Maybe theyll make a come back with ancient technology? heheh
Ilot depends on a few things. The more I read, the more I see us sl o w i n g d o w n.
If thats the case, AMD has further gains to attain, while Intel has less, which could end up with market conotations.
Also seen good rumor (with and from people with their heads screwed on right) that both GF and AMD may be edging for those earlier releases, but time will tell

Well maybe. However I don't think AMD can match Intel's R&D efforts, at least in any sustained manner, so unless AMD can pull a bunny outta their chapeau with BD, or Intel screws up with another Prescott, I'd bet Intel will maintain its lead.

What if Intel screws up the later shrinks?

What if Intel runs out of performance improving ideas?

There's alot of what if, but not enough answers.

jeez.... lets just let this thread die. it's old and has mainly went off topic.....

I will Feel just fine I Won my Core i7 and motherboard all i had to buy was my Ram

Ripped off? - Nope, I've been holding off lately.
Confused? - Somewhat.
Irritated that I have to wait longer before I can better survey the field? - Oh yes.
Frustrated at ANOTHER socket configuration? - You bet.

Can't get lousier than that

i7 falls under both LGA1156 (8xx) and LGA1366 (9xx). If you want to differentiate, call them by their socket instead.
As long expected and now proven, nearly all of desktop applications still can't even utilise all of Lynnfield's dual-channel memory bandwidth.

The price increase to have HT is proportional. People with real needs for it will pay for the premium, most people won't and can save $.

Not everyone is running two GTX 295. 1920x1200 needs only one top-end single GPU gfx card anyway to drive most games beyond 30FPS minimum.

tl;dr version of my original response that was killed by not logging in.

In the future you will be using something newer than Bloomfield.

You can also find the Pentium D 965 more expensive than the i7 920. Does that make it better? Price is not determined solely by the technology. i7 860 is "worse" than i7 920 yet it's more expensive.

Refer to my first response.

Of course. The rebate wouldn't be given until next year.

I agree. Considering my current rig, I think I will wait until I see some very significant performance gains before upgrading. I would suggest any one who really wants to witness a significant performance gain to buy an SSD Hard Drive. I bought the new Intel G2 SSD and could genuinely perceive a noticeable difference using my computer day in and day out.

Gigabyte EP45-UD3R
Q6600 overclocked to 3.2GHz
4 GB DDR800
8800 GT 512MB Video Card
Intel 80GB G2 SSD (OS)
640 MB Seagate Hard Drive (DATA)

Please remember that most users won't see the difference but in multi-thread applications the i7 will perform much better when used with the tripple-memory DDR3 concept it was made for. The new i7s will have duel-memory capability but the i7 tripple kicks but. You have to spend more on the memory though and that can be a draw back for the average consumer. Gamers will also benefit from and enjoy the i7!

1) The Core Duo technically out performs the centrino, not the other way around.

2) If you are playing games then Macs are useless. If you are face booking 24/7 then anything over $500 for a laptop and $300 for a desktop is too much money.

3) The i5 doesn't just have better clocks than the Centrino, it has twice the cores and FAR surpasses the Centrino in clock for clock performance.

4) If you are video editing or photo editing to large enough degree to need a high end computer, then you will want the most power for your money which is NOT a Mac's department.

5) You can't compare an older Dell to a newer Macbook fairly. You also cannot honestly recommend a $1000+ laptop for someone who only consumes information and does not create it, for that there are netbooks.

Now go away.