Phenom II X2 550 turns into a Phenom II X4 B50 - Page 2 - AMD

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You should be fine...you should have changed the settings right away...
Now you should benchmark your PC with 3DMark06 and post up the scores...

Reply to videl

^Yes this I must see.

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Reply to xtc28

Hey guys, check this out...

Does it turn out that comparing our scores is useless? or do you think the scores should still be close enough to each other as long as the graphics cards are in the high performance ranges? what do you guys think about this? Thanks...

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Lets see if this workx.......

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videl wrote :

Hey guys, check this out...

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Does it turn out that comparing our scores is useless? or do you think the scores should still be close enough to each other as long as the graphics cards are in the high performance ranges? what do you guys think about this? Thanks...

how do i post a picture w/o having a link show up? Every time i copy paste the picture it just comes up as a link..... or am I the only one that sees a link and everyone else sees a picture? sorry but I guess Im a noob when it comes to posting pictures on this site.....

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Message edited by OvrClkr on 07-21-2009 at 06:01:15 AM

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OvrClkr wrote :

how do i post a picture w/o having a link show up? Every time i copy paste the picture it just comes up as a link..... or am I the only one that sees a link and everyone else sees a picture? sorry but I guess Im a noob when it comes to posting pictures on this site.....

Hi,

Go to your Photobucket account/Album & put your cursor over the Picture you want to display in this forum...a menu will appear below it with 4 links [addresses] choose the one on the bottom "IMG Code" Cut then Paste it here in the Text Window. Use the Preview button below/right to view your Picture.

Note: replace the arrows in this IMG Code with brackets [ ] like this [IMG] & my picture will appear :love:
<IMG>http://i727.photobucket.com/albums/ww279/Jim937/Jimmy.jpg</IMG>

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Message edited by Jim937 on 07-21-2009 at 07:00:37 AM

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OvrClkr wrote :

how do i post a picture w/o having a link show up? Every time i copy paste the picture it just comes up as a link..... or am I the only one that sees a link and everyone else sees a picture? sorry but I guess Im a noob when it comes to posting pictures on this site.....

Hi, :hello:

Here is a screen shot of a Photo in your Photobucket Album...note lower left "Share this Image" Cut & Paste the IMG Code here:

I woke up at 3am, my computer was Locked :fou: I changed the DRAMM Voltage to 1.800v...Testing 1,2,3 :pt1cable:

I will clear the CMOS later today after I get 4 more hours of sleep, my Mobo has a jumper I can short to clear it with, how is the Best way to handle this, do I need to copy my current settings in BIOS...my Mobo manual is not clear on what to do???

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Message edited by Jim937 on 07-29-2009 at 02:40:50 PM

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Jim937 wrote :

Hi, :hello:

Here is a screen shot of a Photo in your Photobucket Album...note lower left "Share this Image" Cut & Paste the IMG Code here:

http://i727.photobucket.com/albums [...] vrClkr.jpg

I woke up at 3am, my computer was Locked :fou: I changed the DRAMM Voltage to 1.800v...Testing 1,2,3 :pt1cable:

I will clear the CMOS later today after I get 4 more hours of sleep, my Mobo has a jumper I can short to clear it with, how is the Best way to handle this, do I need to copy my current settings in BIOS...my Mobo manual is not clear on what to do???

Whoa!!! thx man

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Yes, I would suggest you takes notes and write down your settings, so this way when you clear your CMOS you will be able to type in your settings on-the-fly.....

Message edited by OvrClkr on 07-21-2009 at 04:57:32 PM

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Reply to OvrClkr

My mobo has a "save to profile" or "Save to CMOS" option...I have 9 or 10 profiles to save to. You can save the settings of your bios to the profiles and then load them up...You can also save then to disk...It makes life easier when comparing different settings in your mobo...1.8? my ram is all on default settings...the speeds are the same as recommended by the ram manufacturer...but my voltage is 1.5...I need to check those settings again...

Reply to videl

Jim937, are you going to unlock once your ram is stable? The CPU performance is twice as good when unlocked...

Reply to videl

Hi, :hello:

Videl, the RAM voltage 1.8 was recommended by OCZ Tech [see email above]

Thanks for the Info I made a CMOS1 profile...I can't figure how to save to HHD since I do not have a Floppy.

Wish me luck, I will clear the CMOS after this post.

I ran a 8hr Prime95 @ DRAM @ 1.8v, it passed :love: altho I still thing stick #2 is bad IMO, time will tell.

Videl, Thanks for the use of Your thread, Yes I will unlock all cores :love:

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Comment: Hello James,

Try clearing the CMOS and then manually adjusting the memory settings in the BIOS. For this particular kit I recommend using timings of 7-7-7-20, command rate of 2t, and 1.8 volts.

If the problems persist even with these settings try testing each memory stick individually with Memtest. You can download a bootable copy from http://www.ocztechnologyforum.com/ [...] ?id=tools.

If you find errors with your memory, especially if the errors follow one particular memory stick, your memory is likely faulty and will need replacement with an RMA.

Message edited by Jim937 on 07-21-2009 at 10:25:07 PM

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Before unlocking it is a MUST that you make sure that the RAM is completely stable. This way when you unlock if your system is unstable you know it has nothing to do with the RAM... Just FYI.......

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Reply to OvrClkr

No prob Jim...good luck with unlocking
And could you possibly benchmark you CPU with 3DMark06 once unlocked...I want to see if I'm getting good scores only because I got lucky or if all the phenom II X2 CPU's are good when unlocked...Anyway, good luck.

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OvrClkr wrote :

Before unlocking it is a MUST that you make sure that the RAM is completely stable. This way when you unlock if your system is unstable you know it has nothing to do with the RAM... Just FYI.......

Hi,

I will make sure my system is stable & when I unlock I will post All results here.

Question: Might you know why the timings are different when comparing CPU-Z Memory to E6 memory...CPU-Z memory is the same as the BIOS ??? However CPU-Z SPD & E6 are the same ??? I'm to Old for this $hit :sarcastic:

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Jim937 said: Question: Might you know why the timings are different when comparing CPU-Z Memory to E6 memory...CPU-Z memory is the same as the BIOS ??? However CPU-Z SPD & E6 are the same ???

Hi, :hello:

Thought I would do a little research while my Prim95 is running. In answer to my above question, I found the answer here this is a good read :love:

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Why CPU-Z doesn’t match your memory’s advertised speeds.
Posted by Robert Hallock
Monday, Jan 26th, 2009 at 4:24 pm in Articles
http://icrontic.com/articles/why-c [...] sed-speeds

Reply to Jim937

Hmm interesting article.

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Reply to xtc28

Yeah it is...so that means that your memory is already overclocked when you buy it, so overclocking it even higher than advertised speeds is a challenge on most cards...

I can't wait for you to unlock the cores...You will be amazed at the power of this CPU...It works like a real quad...at least mine does, and I think yours will also...

For it's price, nothing can beat it! (If you chose the right parts and have a successful unlock)

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Message edited by videl on 07-22-2009 at 09:03:46 AM

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videl wrote :

I can't wait for you to unlock the cores...You will be amazed at the power of this CPU...It works like a real quad...at least mine does, and I think yours will also...

For it's price, nothing can beat it! (If you chose the right parts and have a successful unlock)

Hi, :hello:

Looking good, since I changed the voltage to 1.800v Prime has not locked-up, test #1 was 8 hrs & test #2 is 4hrs and still running. :love:

I took a peak at my ACC and I have a feeling when I activated it (CTRL-F1) I set it to "NORMAL" I don't see a way to reverse this to "HYBRID" without Flashing the BIOS...I'm not 100% sure about this...I have BIOS F4a I will check for a new flash.

I don't remember seeing this...> EC Firmware for Advanced Clock Calibration did you ?

Reply to Jim937

Yes just let it reset the firmware for ACC make sure its on hybrid and all cores -2%

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Reply to xtc28

Your Temps will disappear when you do this. In AOD it will -267C and in Core temps OCCT and any other hardware mon program it will say 0?! I dont like this at all but if you are sure your temps are good dont wory about it just move on. ACC will actually let you get a higher clock that without it but I refuse to run it because of no temp readings.

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Reply to xtc28

When you guys say test one stick of ram at a time, does that mean physically only have 1 stick at a time installed on your mobo or can you specify in the software to only test a certain stick?

Reply to bigmike7801

Yes that means one stick at a time.

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Reply to OvrClkr

one installed at a time.

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Reply to xtc28

Jim937, EC Firmware Selection is an option in the ACC on gigabyte boards with dual bios...On my board I would go into the MB Intelligent Tweaker, then Advanced Clock Calibration, and then set the EC Firmware to hybrid and the ACC to auto or all cores -2%...If you have a non gigabyte board, you would just have to set ACC to auto or all cores...(If you have the right bios version)

Reply to videl

xtc28 wrote :

one installed at a time.

Hi,

Yes only have 1 stick installed at a time, so If you have 2 remove one ...also try a different Slot, I had both my sticks in 1&2 slot, I tested them both in slot 3&4 as well this way you will know if the Slots are Ok.

Videl, did your EC Firmware Selection disappear after you choose Hybrid...I do not see any EC Firmware Selection ???

Another good read on this subject of unlocking cores:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forum [...] p?t=223992

Message edited by Jim937 on 07-22-2009 at 11:04:41 PM

Reply to Jim937

Hi, :hello:

Done !!! I have 4 cores...all Passed Prime95, during the test the temp was High 62c to 65c ouch. Loaded my game World of Warcraft temp 42c wow...I have 3 of 5 fans set on medium speed :love:

MY ET6 still monitors Temp, I did read that temp sensors get disabled, but so far so good. Next post 3DMark

Reply to Jim937

Nice......

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Reply to OvrClkr

Hi, :hello:

WoW!!! 3D Mark score: 14,006 4cores, up from 12,349 2cores, CPU 4682 4cores up from 2641 2cores...both are at stock CPU 3.1 Ghz. & stock CPU Fan [temp 47c during 3D Mark test] OS: WinXP Pro 32bit :love:

OS: Windows XP Pro 32
CPU: AMD Phenom II X2 550 BE
MoBo: GIGABYTE GA-MA790XT-UD4P AM3 DDR3 AMD 790X ATX
Mem: OCZ OCZ3P13334GK 4gb kit (2gb x 2) 1333mhz 7-7-7-20 240-pin DDR3
PSU: OCZ ModXStream Pro OCZ700MXSP 700W ATX12V V2.2
VC: MSI N9800GT-T2D512-OC V2 GeForce 9800 GT 512MB 256-bit GDDR3
HD: Western Digital Caviar Black WD5001AALS 500GB 7200 RPM 32MB OEM
DVDROM: Sony Optiarc Black 24X Rewritable Drive - OEM
CASE: Antec 900

Reply to Jim937

Nice numbers.....

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Reply to OvrClkr

Nice! Alright 550 x4!

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Reply to xtc28

I noticed that videl was reinstalling Windows a couple times. Is it common practice to reinstall windows after running certain benchmarking applications?

Reply to bigmike7801

Not really but some peeps feel there is a need to wipe the HD and make sure every thing is in place (programs).... You dont have to reinstall multiple times as long as you make sure you have what you need (no bloatware).....IMO....

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Reply to OvrClkr

Jim, Congrats on your "home-made quad"...
Nice scores by the way...very close to mine...
I know, the temps are high...but the max recommended temp for this CPU is 70 Celsius...so you should be fine...Anyway, isn't it great to have a quad? especially when you only paid 100 bucks for it?!?!!!

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Message edited by videl on 07-23-2009 at 06:04:56 AM

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videl wrote :

Jim, Congrats on your "home-made quad"...
Nice scores by the way...very close to mine...
I know, the temps are high...but the max recommended temp for this CPU is 70 Celsius...so you should be fine...Anyway, isn't it great to have a quad? especially when you only paid 100 bucks for it?!?!!!

Hi, :hello:

Thank you videl for your thread

Thanks to All who contributed to this thread you all made it happen

4 Cores and I'm only 67 years young what's next, hmmm lets OC it a bit. I will be getting Windows 7 64bit for my birthday this November !!!! How does 3.5GHz sound ? Ok now how do I do it safely without blowing this 4core gaming rig?

Edit: Btw I did flash my BIOS in order to get the EC up so I could change it to Hybrid.

Message edited by Jim937 on 07-23-2009 at 08:01:40 AM

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67 years young and he unlocked a 550!!!!!!!! now that's what I call a man on a mission!!!! Kudos to you and remember to ask ANYTHING, that's what we are here for.....BTW your quote (under your pic) is priceless.......

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Reply to OvrClkr

3.5 is good...Here's how you do it: raise the multiplier by .5x (CPU Clock Ratio) at a time, until you reach the desired speed. The multiplier by default is set on 15.5x to achieve the 3.1 speed. You can get the CPU stable at 3.4 without voltage changes...I had to add .075 volts to get it 3.5 stable...so at 3.4v it should be stable at 3.5Ghz...be sure to use a good cooler...good luck

Message edited by videl on 07-23-2009 at 08:03:00 AM

Reply to videl

My 55 year old da can barely turn a pc on let alone what you did! Congrats! I might have to rub that in his face though.

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Reply to xtc28

Yeah, Way to go Jim!!! :pt1cable: :lol:

Reply to videl

i have to comment on meodowla's posts... that Athlonx2 6000+ scored nearly as well as the Phenom2 x2 550...?

Message edited by Kithzaru on 07-24-2009 at 12:02:33 AM

Reply to Kithzaru

Oh wow, i didn't realize there was a second page!

Very nice job there Jim! 67 years young, what next =P kudos man, kudos.

Reply to Kithzaru

That's nonsense, the 6000+ does not bench the same as the 550.... Plus the 550 paired with DDR3 will blow the 6000+ out of the water......

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Reply to OvrClkr

On the first page, meodowla's post with the 3dmark screenies...

6000+ @ 3.3 = 2507 3dmark
550BE @ 3.1 = 2506 3dmark

Now that is a stock 550 compared to a 200-300mhz OC'd Athlon (depending on Windsor or Brizzy) but that is still really close.

I just expected there to be more of a gap?

I am in complete agreement with the the DDR3 but am still amazed at the 3dmark result. I need to go home and 3dmark my 5600+ @ 3.2.. i think it's at a high 2400~

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Reply to Kithzaru

the 6000+ might get a close enough score when overclocked...but no, the phenom II X2 550 is way better...especially with 6 megs of L3 cache!!!In real world performance and even in benchmarks the phenom II X@ 550 will beat the 6000+ easy...especially when overclocked...When overclocked high, the 550 get scores as high as the tricores at stock!!!

Reply to videl

My 550 as a dual core at stock speed scores 2684...meodowla's score is a little low...

Reply to videl

ahh, alright. Sorry to cause such a stir, i was just a bit surprised. Thank you for the quick replies guys ^^

Reply to Kithzaru

Good luck with overclocking your 5600+, Kithzaru...I would expect scores of 2200-2500...but we'll see...post them up when you're done testing...and again, good luck.

Reply to videl

Don't worry about "the stir" we're just comparing here...and a little argument is nothing...lol :lol:

Reply to videl

Will do =D

I've got her running at 3.2 right now. Next pay check = Xigmatech Cooler (or that Sunbeam one) and the Scythe Fan controller that OvrClkr recommended to me, then, then we shall see!

Reply to Kithzaru

Alright...use 3DMark06...and good luck

Reply to videl

Kithzaru wrote :

On the first page, meodowla's post with the 3dmark screenies...

6000+ @ 3.3 = 2507 3dmark
550BE @ 3.1 = 2506 3dmark

Now that is a stock 550 compared to a 200-300mhz OC'd Athlon (depending on Windsor or Brizzy) but that is still really close.

I just expected there to be more of a gap?

I am in complete agreement with the the DDR3 but am still amazed at the 3dmark result. I need to go home and 3dmark my 5600+ @ 3.2.. i think it's at a high 2400~

Of course I meant stock, now overclock the 550 to 3.3Ghz and bench again.....

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Reply to OvrClkr

Hi, :hello:

Could some one give me step by step how to increase the CPU Voltage...I'm getting a RED Warning message:

System Voltage Not Optimized

Also which do u recommend for 3.5GHz:

#1 Increase the Multiplier only...[This is not stable at this time for me.]
#2 Increase the FSB only
#3 Or a little of each ?

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CPUD Hardware monitor
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ITE IT87 hardware monitor

Voltage sensor 0 1.34 Volts [0x54] (CPU VCORE)
Voltage sensor 1 1.81 Volts [0x71] (VIN1)
Voltage sensor 2 3.38 Volts [0xD3] (+3.3V)
Voltage sensor 3 5.00 Volts [0xBA] (+5V)
Voltage sensor 4 12.35 Volts [0xC1] (+12V)
Voltage sensor 5 -11.33 Volts [0xB1] (-12V)
Voltage sensor 7 3.60 Volts [0x86] (+5V VCCH)
Voltage sensor 8 3.09 Volts [0xC1] (VBAT)
Temperature sensor 0 30°C (85°F) [0x1E] (TMPIN0)
Temperature sensor 1 38°C (100°F) [0x26] (TMPIN1)
Temperature sensor 2 36°C (96°F) [0x24] (TMPIN2)
Fan sensor 0 3497 RPM [0xC1] (FANIN0)
Fan sensor 2 1968 RPM [0x157] (FANIN2)

Thanks...Jim

Message edited by Jim937 on 07-25-2009 at 02:44:34 PM

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