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hannibal wrote :

Maybe, but no dx10.1 games in the sight at this moment...



Well actually with Assasin's Cred it was in sight and then nVidia *cough* UBi took it away.

I don't think it's a killer app now, but for anyone buying longer term, it's definitely a consideration with proven benefits.


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TheGreatGrapeApe wrote :

Well actually with Assasin's Cred it was in sight and then nVidia *cough* UBi took it away.

I don't think it's a killer app now, but for anyone buying longer term, it's definitely a consideration with proven benefits.



Too bad Assassin's Creed's gameplay wasn't up to it's visuals. That's what we get for games codeveloped for PC's and consoles, or ported over to begin with. The last console RPG'sthat I thought were decent on the PC were the two KOTOR's. Though I looked forward to the revival of the Bard's Tale, and found the humor fantastic, the console style didn't work for me.

For long term, we need good CrossfireX drivers and lower end cards in the newer series matching up nicely with higher end cards from the last series. Nvidia should work for this too, to make triple SLI more viable.

Otherwise, the long term might be that when a viable DX 10.1 game is out there, the much vaunted cards that first supported it won't be capable alone.

One of these days, I'll try the 3870x2 in CrossfireX with a 4850.


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TheGreatGrapeApe wrote :

Well actually with Assasin's Cred it was in sight and then nVidia *cough* UBi took it away.

I don't think it's a killer app now, but for anyone buying longer term, it's definitely a consideration with proven benefits.



yep, that is what I mean. The nVidia has so strong hold on the game companies, that we will have to wait DX10.1 games for a while... (read: until nVidia has it's own dx10.1 or better solution...)
I hope though that I am wrong in this prediction...


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yipsl wrote :

For long term, we need good CrossfireX drivers and lower end cards in the newer series matching up nicely with higher end cards from the last series. Nvidia should work for this too, to make triple SLI more viable.



The difficultu of using different GPU's togerher is balancing I think. The slover card will always bottleneck the faster partner GPU, so if you really combine 3870 and 4850 then you work in the terms of slower card. Of cource with wery clever alcorythms where the slover card has smaller are to draw, it would be possible (?), but even then the balancing can be really difficult and at least it would reduce the selling number of newer cards... so It's hard to say how hard GPU companies even try to make that viable option... and if those drivers that tryes to make it possible sucks big time... you canonly expect hate mails from customers who blame that they were bettrayed.
It would be nice option but I am somewhat sceptical of it's implementations.

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hannibal wrote :

The difficultu of using different GPU's togerher is balancing I think. The slover card will always bottleneck the faster partner GPU, so if you really combine 3870 and 4850 then you work in the terms of slower card.



Nordic Hardware reported the 4850 as 850 megahertz core clock. Now, we also know the 4850 will arrive with 512 megs DDR3, not the faster DDR5 on the 4870 and 4870x2 due in July.

The reason I said the 4850 and the 3870x2 is that they're evenly matched. I have an MSI factory overclocked 3870x2 @ 850 using DDR3. So, I wouldn't expect a slowdown, even though the single 4850 core is still a bit faster than a single 3870 core.

I wouldn't match the "old" 3870x2 with a 4870 or 4870x2. I'm not sure that CrossfireX would balance that much of a difference.

Isn't anyone else curious to see what match ups work between gaming generations? I'm not including the 3650 and lower cards in the mix, as they aren't gaming cards.

Of course, I just got a Gigabyte 780G board for a future 8750 upgrade. So I'll move my current CPU over tomorrow night. I still won't have a Crossfire board, so my interest is academic right now.

For a Crossfire board I'd prefer waiting till Deneb, AM3 and DDR3.


Message edited by yipsl on 05-17-2008 at 12:57:19 PM

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area61 wrote :

but what would the gt200 deliver.there is no chance they would be putting anything less powerful than a 9800gtx.i have another thought too.if this preview was done in DX10,what would be the results in DX10.1 in vista SP1?as earlier reported,the hd3800s gain from 20-30% boost.how would that factor in?



yes .i do believe that the 4800s will fit snugly in between the 3870x2 and the 9800gx2.the chances are very high that the 4870x2 will smash the 9800gx2 like 30% :lol:
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