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Interesting... in my desperation to see if the AGP flavor of the GS would be a good buy, I've looked at some reviews of BFG's 6800 OC (which is basically an AGP 6800 GS with slower memory), and some reviews of the plain 6800 that's been overclocked.

Even though the memory is nowhere near the 500 Mhz of the AGP GS, the 6800 OC holds its own against the X800 PRO. I think it's safe to assume the AGP 6800 GS is a good buy, just not nearly as good as the PCI-e version.

As such, it deserves an inclusion with the X800 GTO in the sub-$200 price category for AGP.

Every 4 months for AGP digest it seems; July, then November. So maybe March digest due out end of April?

EDIT: There were enough requests on the Guru3d forums that they decided to get a hold of a 6800GS AGP. Problem is, it might be a P4 2.8GHz test system. I hope they at least include a X800GTO and an X800 pro. A few other cards added would be great too.


From: http://forums.guru3d.com/showthrea [...] 867&page=2
"Update: good news.
Point-of-view has them on stock and will send a sample out for a test. So in the upcoming weeks you can expect a review."

Next week works for me.

Where you seeing a 6800 holding it's own on the X800 pro? What are the clocks? I could see a couple wins maybe. I'd think the X800 pro would easilt beat a vanilla 325/700 6800 and not be too far behind the 6800GT. Maybe 75% of the way between them on average.

Actually just noticed at Digit-life, their 256MB 6800 is clocked 350/1000...ala 6800GS. We will have to see what the 350/1100 versions can do, and how well all of them overclock or unlock. SO we basically already had the 6800GS AGP ages ago right here.

To me it looks like the X800 pro and GTO will compete well performance wise with the 6800GS AGP. They will each have near an equal win/lose ratio. Anyway, have a look.
http://www.digit-life.com/articles [...] x0507.html

OK, wow. Google Asus v9999 gamer edition and there are tons of reviews on it.

Pitted agains a X800 pro and others:
http://www.hexus.net/content/item. [...] direct=yes
http://www.driverheaven.net/review [...] /index.htm
http://www.hothardware.com/viewarticle.aspx

Nice find...

The review of the 6800 OC I saw was on Bjorn3d, and there was an overclocked 6800 on Digit Life.

Lots of 6800 vs. X800 PROs there. The PRO looks a bit higher than it on average, but then again the PRO is faster than the GTO. So I guess we can put them on par.

But are street prices approaching $200 yet? I might have put the bugger on the list prematurely.

Still $220's+ from what I have seen. They've got to do better than that seeing X800Xt and X850Xt deals. Even X850 pro and X800XL AGP have been avilable this week for $220-$240 without rebates.

I'm done looking for now as I grabbed a AIW X800XT from Buy.com yesterday. I am a huge buy.com fan ever since they took back my XFX 6600GT lemon and paid the shipping too. Better RMA policy than Newegg. Anyway, It was $259.99, shipped free, no tax, and a $30 rebate. $230 was a bit more than I hoped to spend, but I got tired of looking for 6600GT, X800GT, or faster deals. Clearly a good buy over the 6800GS and X800GTO, (not considering OC's/unlocks). I'll still browse daily, but I'm relieved to not be in need of a decent AGP now. AGP deal hunting is getting frustrating.

I love the content...it should be sticky...but it would be nice if all the stickies were consolidated with the newest info from each rather than have so many seperate stickies.

Just bringing it up top for the newbs. I've been answering a lot of questions that this thread should answer for me lately...

:? 8) :x :!: 8O ..... 8) make it a STICKY

Coat this one in something gooey and throw it on the wall good topic

But i would just like to point out that some x850xt's i think possibly even PE's were spotted at about $250, so that might need some editing, it was a once- off though.

Thanks for the info I'll edit that in.

I haven't done a search over this forum yet, but I was wondering how well the new 6800GS AGP unlocks to 16pipeline.

Be sure to check the GF6800 reviews because alot of the performance is for ASUS card which is overclocked (350/500[1000]) well above the standard GF6800 (325/350[700]), and it uses GDDR3 unlike the average GF6800 which uses plain DDR.

Be sure to remind people to get the ASUS version or a similar card, the test at Digit-Life showed the ASUS at standr 6800, 6800OC, and a masively OC'ed (455/570[1140]) ASUS in their review, the interesting thing is the performance of the highly OC'ed ASUS versus even a GT, the large OC beats the GT even at high res with AA/AF.

So if you were to change it I would be sure you mention the ASUS Gamer edition by name, as all other GF6800 will perform below an X800 let alone X800Pro. Taking into account OCs and such the X800P -> an X800XT, and then would beat the GF6800 when OC'ed.

If things aren't at stock performance then there needs to be caveats, especially since they aren't readily available. Regular GF6800s are plentiful and cheap, ASUS GF6800s not so much.

I'm assuming you meant something else, being you compared a GPU to a CPU...but what is it you meant to say?

He meant to say exactly what he said, He's a very smart cookie like that. The the VPU DOES assist in the encoding process;

http://www.chip.de/artikel/c1_artikel_17670022.html

Right now not all aspects have been exploited by the drivers, but the decoding and encoding is faster than all other CPU intensive methods, and much faster than CPU alone.

My wetdream dries:
[code:1:97d81d311b]Remarkable: During the encoding process, XCode uses the main CPU to its maximum – the task manager continually shows 100 percent usage. In contrast, the Windows Media Encoder (who’s supposed to use only the CPU) shows fluctuations from 75 to 100 percent.[/code:1:97d81d311b]

I was hoping that it would use zero CPU so I could crunch Folding@Home, play games and encode stuff at he same time.

Well even Digit-Life is reporting that it's still only VPU assist, and the CPU is still under load, just done faster. The VPU does not replace the CPU just makes that 50-100% more effective/efficient.

I'm assuming you meant something else, being you compared a GPU to a CPU...but what is it you meant to say?

You assume incorrectly sir.

The X1xx GPU's greatly assist in encoding video, as Grape mentioned above.

Just to clarify Ape, I'm not recommending the 6800 or Asus 6800, I was just using it's reviews as a "benchmark" for the upcoming 6800 GS, as it has the same clocks as the ASUS 6800: 350 core, 500 mem