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dude, he said 50% as speculation, and basicaly guaranteed means that it is like almost guaranteed, in other words the manufacturer did not actually guarantee it to be flashable, what he meant was that the success rates of such modifications is so high that it is practically guaranteed.

Holy-one-year-old-post Batman! lol

*** SEPTEMBER 6, 2006 CHANGES ***

Wow, alot of sweeping changes this update:

- Removed X1800 XT because the prices have skyrocketed
- In it's place in the ~$200 PCIe category is the new 7900 GS
- Included the new AGP version of the 7600 GT as top dog in AGP

Nvidia is pricing agressively and taking alot of the categories, looking good!

Ati had better concentrate on keeping the X1900 GT prices down to compete with the 7900 GS - I can't find X1900 GTs for less than $250 now, can't recommend them at that price with the 7900 GS so cheap.

And their upcoming X1650 XT had better be competitive with the 7600 GT if they want to stay in the mainstream game.
The soon-to-arrive X1300 XT and X1650 PRO look to be very good for the price though.

and that quick the chart goes from ati-heavy to Nv-heavy... wonder if anyone will get on here and accuse you of Nv-favoritism like the previous ati slamming. lol

weird though on the ati price-hikes. Wonder what's going on there? all of the ati cards that I looked at are higher. The 1900xt is even higher in most cases than some 1900xtx models! Strange that prices are climbing w/ them and Nv releasing new stuff...

...strange things are afoot at the circle-K

Agreed--WTF are those folks at ATI thinking? Shouldn't prices DROP just prior to new releases, not RISE? Did we miss something? Does AMD have anything to do with this somehow? Just seems kinda weird to me...

*** SEPTEMBER 6, 2006 CHANGE ***

Due to the wise advice of Anoobis and Angry Ducky, I've added the 7300 GT GDDR3 version to the sub-$100 recommendations

There are more GDDR3 7300 GTs out there than I thought, and they all seem to be clocked 500/700 which is really good, so they deserve the spot. I still hope noone confuses them with the DDR2 versions, hopefully I've made it clear eniough so nobody makes that mistake.

Uhh..Cleeve..big guy?????

Geforce 7300 GT GDDR3
Codename: G73, 90 nanometer technology
8 PixelShaders, 4 VertexShaders, 8 TextureUnits, 8 RasterOpsProcessors
128-bit memory bus
500 Mhz core, 700 Mhz GDDR3 (1000 Mhz Effective) Memory

Shouldn't that read 1400?

I can't speak for Angry Ducky, but I don't give out wise advice, just advice.

Arg... fixed.

Keep the good work up Cleeve. Great thread.

Have you even have sex yet?

Yes, with your ma.

Stupid comment

Bravo, Bravo.

Great work Cleeve! THG should make you mod.

Agreed--although he may not want to be a mod :? :?:

EDIT: A new (or old) AGP card under $150: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814102606

I doubt it'll be available for long, heck an x850 AGP for under $150, but thought I'd mention it.

The X1900XT 256MB is available for 240$ on newegg. I guess it's a better choice than a 7900GT for 270$.

The X1900XTX can be found for between 300 and 330$ on newegg.

wow, good price.

I'll second that.

*** September 17th changes ***

- Added new X1900 XT 256mb in ~$250 segment. Zing!

- Added 7950 GX2 as best $500 card. Prices are reasonable and it's really quite good at very high resolutions w/AA compared to any single card

Not saying that that's wrong, but i bought an ATi X1800XT 256MB from newegg yesterday for $206. it's weird when they don't have it in stock you can't even see it on the website, but then every once in a while it appears. i guess you just have to hunt for it

Also, I picked it over the MSI 7900GT which was $230 (after a $40 rebate i think).

So i guess the moral of the story is hunt for bargains and you can get better price/performance than the "average" best.

I wonder... where does the AIW 1900 sit within all of this? It has slower clocks than the 1900xt versions (500/480 core/mem) and even the 1900gt is faster at 575/600... but the AIW has the full 48 shaders of the xt/xtx cards, and it is right at that ~$200 mark of the 7900gs on newegg. I remember the AIW 1900 performing equal to and above the 7800gt... really would be interesting that if it gets similar performance (w/ the new cat drivers) to the 7900gs (plus the better IQ) at the same price, and you get the tuner, remote, and all breakout boxes that would be a sweet deal indeed.

things that make you go hmm...

the x1900aiw is on par with 7800gtx, 7900gt, x1900gt, and x1800xt

which seems to be that it would be better than a 7900gs... for the same price w/ more "stuff", yes?