Intel's First 10nm Processor Lands In China

Intel's much-anticipated, and oft-delayed, 10nm processors have popped up in a Lenovo Ideapad 330 at Chinese retailer

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  1. "Not so much anticipated" here, after we had to learn that they still ship their vulnerable chips. Once again, their performance will suffer after the patches are being applied in software. :-(
  2. Honestly I gotta love Toms for how it hints whenever someone makes a huge blunder but also sends them lots of nice free stuff haha.

    14nm is 14nm+ is 14nm++. If Intel could have brought 6 core Sandy in 2010 for $600 why couldn't they bring it to consumer prior to Coffee Lake and Ryzen bringing 8+ cores, esp when they get a bit more chip real estate to work with every node? You think they couldn't work it out?

    Any actual new tech is already there in the 10nm prod line, it's just not refined enough for production. 14nm'+' and '++' are brand names, meant to make you believe that Kaby and Coffee were actually on the roadmap before Cannon was missing deadlines. Meant to justify enforced pin-incompatibility. Meant to explain away X299 and the reason Kaby and Sky were on the same socket. I'm not sayin they aren't different, but they are essentially 'tocks', all of them, and logically compatible with each other's mobo, Coffee included.

    Tick tock broke with Haswell because of the same thing (yield) and it's getting a lot worse at Intel as the nm go down. Cannon is almost 4 years late because 10nm is almost 4 years late.

    Intel's issues are already quite clear. For the last few years they have been forced to refine the best commercially viable process they have, and now it's so optimised they are going to struggle to make 10nm as dense and clockable as 14nm without cooking itself, let alone with good yield, so they have to start at the low end. Expect Haswell/Ivy heat issues here again until '10nm+' makes it cos I can guarantee they will ship it the moment it can turn a profit, shiny or not.

    And LC makes a very good point, Intel likely included those same vulnerabilities in the designs they were actually working on when Spectre went live, including Cannon Lake, necessitating a new stepping of every chip in production.
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