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AMD Radeon R9 3XX Megathread
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Advanced Micro Devices R9 3XX series was one of he most anticipated card launches in the history of AMD. The R9 and R7 series are both consumed full of modified rebrands of the past generation GPU's, which was quite a letdown for many enthusiasts looking for a 'cheaper' HBM alternative, though it doesn't come cheap. Featured in the new series for the higher end R9 Fury series is the first ever released 3D-stacked HBM memory pre-installed on a graphics card, however it does currently come with low memory clock speeds. No cards as per the rumours have been manufactured at 20nm, as to what was to be expected, HBM was a big enough jump for AMD. As for the last R9 2XX series also, GDDR5 is the minimum standard for video ram in this categorized series. Dual GPU'd cards currently will not be added to this thread as of yet, because these speculations are often the most inaccurate. If you would like to know a rough idea of what the possible R9 Fury X2 (possible name) figures could be, just look at the R9 Fury X's specifications and double it. This thread will be open to rumors unlike the previous R9 2XX thread and also related discussion, but as always please keep within the forum rules. The below lists the given R9 3XX/Fury series graphics cards along with their official specifications;


*N/A's are listed in a few places as a figure to be put there would not be accurate, simply because there is no good source to suggest what number should be there.

*All models listed are with STANDARD video ram specification. Manufacturers will produce and supply higher video ram models then the baseline.*



R9 380
Chip Codename: Antigua Pro
Video Ram: 2 or 4GB GDDR5
Memory Bus: 256-bit
Bandwidth: 182.4GB/s
TDP: 190W
ROPs: 32
Cores: 1792
Texture Units: 112
RRP: N/A

R9 390
Chip Codename: Grenada Pro
Video Ram: 8GB GDDR5
Memory Bus: 512-bit
Bandwidth: 384GB/s
TDP: 275W
ROPs: 64
Cores: 2560
Texture Units: 160
RRP: N/A


R9 390X
Chip Codename: Grenada XT
Video Ram: 8GB GDDR5
Memory Bus: 512-bit
Bandwidth: 384GB/s
TDP: 275W
ROPs: 64
Cores: 2816
Texture Units: 176
RRP: N/A


R9 Nano
Chip Codename: Fiji XT
Video Ram: 4GB HBM (High-Bandwidth Memory)
Memory Bus: 4096-bit
Bandwidth: 512GB/s
TDP: 175W
ROPs: 64
Cores: 4096
Texture Units: 256
RRP: $649


R9 Fury
Chip Codename: Fiji Pro
Video Ram: 4GB HBM (High-Bandwidth Memory)
Memory Bus: 4096-bit
Bandwidth: 512GB/s
TDP: 275W
ROPs: 64
Cores: 3584
Texture Units: 224
RRP: $549

R9 Fury X
Chip Codename: Fiji XT
Video Ram: 4GB HBM (High-Bandwidth Memory)
Memory Bus: 4096-bit
Bandwidth: 512GB/s
TDP: 275W
ROPs: 64
Cores: 4096
Texture Units: 256
RRP: $649


AMD R9 Fury X2
Chip Codename: Fiji XT (x2)
Video Ram: 8GB HBM (High-Bandwidth Memory) (4GB x 2 - scaled in Crossfire to 4GB)
Memory Bus: 8192-bit (4096 x2)
Bandwidth: 1024GB/s (512 x2)
TDP: TBA expect around ~470W
ROPs: 128 (64 x2)
Cores: 8192 (4096 x2)
Texture Units: 512 (256 x2)
RRP: TBA


AMD's website: http://www.amd.com/en-us


'R9' Refers to the category, '3' (first number) refers to the series, '8-9' (second number) refers to the model, '0' (third number) in this series could mean single GPU, inclusion of the 'X' (fourth letter in sequence) on the end of some means it's an extreme edition graphics card. With all this implied, the higher the number, the better the card is in the series.


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  1. sticky?
  2. renz496 said:
    sticky?


    Yes, this is intended for user information (Links and FAQ's) on the upcoming R9 3XX graphics cards. It will be updated soon upon the release of the platform.
  3. i thought that in the past mod already agree not to make sticky thread for unreleased series or card?
  4. Never heard of that, but mod approval has been made prior to this thread.
  5. so things have changed then.
  6. I just hope AMD puts more of an emphasis on lowering the TDP of it's high end offerings for the R9-3XX. It would be nice to be able to run the next gen AMD flagship without having to factor in a couple hundred dollar 1000w+ PSU upgrade as well. This pattern seems to take the value out of lower cost AMD GPU's.
  7. It would seem the opposite, AMD would not use a liquid cooler as a reference design by Asetek for a low TDP card. I would assume this card is over the 300W TDP margin. I would like to see this too, but I would also like to see a major difference in performance also, as these days companies don't compete anymore when it comes to graphics cards, rather as such only edge each other.
  8. How is any of this information reliable at all?
  9. as like with any rumor no matter how legit the source can be always treat it with salt :) . nothing is confirm until the actual hardware officially launch by the company
  10. unknownofprob said:
    It would seem the opposite, AMD would not use a liquid cooler as a reference design by Asetek for a low TDP card. I would assume this card is over the 300W TDP margin. I would like to see this too, but I would also like to see a major difference in performance also, as these days companies don't compete anymore when it comes to graphics cards, rather as such only edge each other.


    It doesn't really bug me as much seeing as modern flagship GPU's are already massively overkill for anything minus the super rare percentage of people running 4K or high res multi monitor set-ups. Were at the point where faster is great but in AMD's case efficiency is needed.
  11. cmi86 said:
    unknownofprob said:
    It would seem the opposite, AMD would not use a liquid cooler as a reference design by Asetek for a low TDP card. I would assume this card is over the 300W TDP margin. I would like to see this too, but I would also like to see a major difference in performance also, as these days companies don't compete anymore when it comes to graphics cards, rather as such only edge each other.


    It doesn't really bug me as much seeing as modern flagship GPU's are already massively overkill for anything minus the super rare percentage of people running 4K or high res multi monitor set-ups. Were at the point where faster is great but in AMD's case efficiency is needed.

    Inefficient game coding is partly to blame
  12. smeezekitty said:
    cmi86 said:
    unknownofprob said:
    It would seem the opposite, AMD would not use a liquid cooler as a reference design by Asetek for a low TDP card. I would assume this card is over the 300W TDP margin. I would like to see this too, but I would also like to see a major difference in performance also, as these days companies don't compete anymore when it comes to graphics cards, rather as such only edge each other.


    It doesn't really bug me as much seeing as modern flagship GPU's are already massively overkill for anything minus the super rare percentage of people running 4K or high res multi monitor set-ups. Were at the point where faster is great but in AMD's case efficiency is needed.

    Inefficient game coding is partly to blame


    Coding is nice but a 300w TDP card is a 300w TDP card regardless. I'd like to see that down in the low 200's.
  13. I was responding to the part about flag ship cards being overkill
  14. esrever said:
    How is any of this information reliable at all?


    I have mentioned it is not, as it is a rumor. However, generally the specifications will be close.
  15. Pondering whether or not to get an r9 290 now or wait for something like a 380x... Surely the 380x wont be that much more powerful than the 290, who knows.
  16. The 380X may cost 1/3 more of the price for a little performance difference, and the R9 290 is at it's best price range. Power consumption is another aspect however. I would wait, but I would opt that the R9 290 would be the better option for the price.
  17. why not wait for a R9 395X2 then? as if you are gonig to pour that kind of money into the GPU why not go for the theorical "best" preformance wise as like we have seen the R9 295X2 is not the best price/preformance by any strench of staticatics that still make sense to use.
  18. ^That may be close to $2000 upon launch, and is the last card to be released often. Getting dual R9 390X's should be cheaper, and if AIO liquid cooled reference it's an easy choice.
  19. Not sure if Yumri was talking to me, but "that kind of money into a GPU"? I was talking about a 300 dollar(ish) gpu, not a 1 grand one lol... I'm not fortunate enough to spend that type of money on a single component.
  20. Rukeith said:
    Pondering whether or not to get an r9 290 now or wait for something like a 380x... Surely the 380x wont be that much more powerful than the 290, who knows.


    who knows. there were a lot of speculation out there. at some point there are rumors about 290X/290 will be rebranded as 380X/380. maybe AMD wants to share something new at CES. i'm sure FreeSync is not the only thing they have for CES.
  21. These stats are all wrong...teaser: R9 390x will be an 8GB card out of the gate...you heard it here first :)
  22. ralfie35 said:
    These stats are all wrong...teaser: R9 390x will be an 8GB card out of the gate...you heard it here first :)


    if it based on GDDR5 that can happen. but if they were using HBM the way i heard about it 4GB will be the max with current implementation.....unless they intend to hold the R 300 series into next year or next
  23. ralfie35 said:
    These stats are all wrong...teaser: R9 390x will be an 8GB card out of the gate...you heard it here first :)


    Rumor, not fact. You also cannot claim 8GB as fact either, as it may/may not be. As stated multiple times this thread is made up of rumors and will of course not be correct as of yet, as simply nothing is officially confirmed!
  24. Actually AMD is no longer making discrete graphics cards. You heard it here firsts. They are going into the hotdog business.
  25. esrever said:
    Actually AMD is no longer making discrete graphics cards. You heard it here firsts. They are going into the hotdog business.


    well joking aside that could be AMD intention when they first acquire ATI. just like sound card become a niche because of integrated sound getting better maybe AMD expect discrete GPU will go that way in the future. only it does not happen as fast as AMD would hope it.
  26. Is it AMD or Radeon? Who does what?
  27. AMD makes Radeon, which also includes their named ATI. Radeon is a name, not a company.
  28. I have no doubt the R9 3xx will be great performers but I won't be surprised if they're power hungry. AMD's track record in this area is quite evident. The cards will most likely big huge too. Guess AMD likes to go with "bigger is better!"
  29. The R9 380 maybe a good card to replace my HD7950!!!
  30. ern88 said:
    The R9 380 maybe a good card to replace my HD7950!!!


    I spent the last few days trying to decide between replacing my 2GB 7850 with a 280x, 290, or GTX 970. After reading this thread and some of the links in it I think I may be better off waiting for a 380 like you. If waiting a few months can get me something around 290 levels for less money that sounds like the way to go.

    Another reason I'm planning on holding off is because of DirectX 12. I fully admit that I don't know anything about DirectX. I don't know if current cards like the 290 can fully take advantage of DirectX 12 through a driver update or if this has to be built into the hardware. All I know is that Nvidia claims that the 970 will fully support DirectX12 and I can't find anything saying the same about the 290. I have to assume that AMD wouldn't release the 300 series without full DirectX 12 support though.
  31. DirectX 12 will be supported on the 290 and all other GCN cards:
    http://www.amd.com/en-us/press-releases/Pages/amd-demonstrates-2014mar20.aspx

    Now I don't know how complete the DX12 support will be on the current gen cards by NVidia and AMD.
  32. smeezekitty said:
    DirectX 12 will be supported on the 290 and all other GCN cards:
    http://www.amd.com/en-us/press-releases/Pages/amd-demonstrates-2014mar20.aspx

    Now I don't know how complete the DX12 support will be on the current gen cards by NVidia and AMD.


    in general nvdia will support DX12 down to their fermi based cards. for AMD all their GCN based will be. 5k and 6k will be left out.
  33. http://wccftech.com/amd-fiji-xt-r9-390x-shipping/
    Shipping data says the fiji PCB costs 75K, so looks like the 390x will be a $1250 card atleast.
  34. Also, looks like it's Cooler Master watercooling this time:
    https://www.zauba.com/import-102-c88001-00-hs-code.html
  35. Quote:
    http://wccftech.com/amd-fiji-xt-r9-390x-shipping/
    Shipping data says the fiji PCB costs 75K, so looks like the 390x will be a $1250 card atleast.

    Seriously? Damn that is expensive. Might be a little less in us dollars but still
  36. That's not Indian price; it's shipping data. So expect the same price in US dollars.
    E.g. the ASUS Strix 970 is INR 21308 which is somewhere around $345. That's indeed the price in US dollars isn't it?
    I'm anticipating the price in India would be somewhere between 90-100k, if at all it comes to Indian markets.
    Want to hear another shocker? The GTX Titan Z is available at a shop, and it costs INR 242,424. At current exchange rate that's $3901.57. So no surprise it's only available through pre-order.
  37. smeezekitty said:
    Quote:
    http://wccftech.com/amd-fiji-xt-r9-390x-shipping/
    Shipping data says the fiji PCB costs 75K, so looks like the 390x will be a $1250 card atleast.

    Seriously? Damn that is expensive. Might be a little less in us dollars but still


    no one actually knows what exact card that is. it could be a fire pro card. so far calling it as 390X is a pure speculation.
  38. Uh if its gonna cost 1200$ bucks. Its not gonna get Price over performance.
    Too expensive!
  39. Assuming the rumors that the 390 will only be 4gb because of the HBM requirements, does that mean that the 290x 8 gb would outperform it in 4k gaming? Or will the additional bandwidth make up for it? My poor 7950 isnt liking my 4k gaming and im planning on upgrading soon.
  40. BluePriest said:
    Assuming the rumors that the 390 will only be 4gb because of the HBM requirements, does that mean that the 290x 8 gb would outperform it in 4k gaming? Or will the additional bandwidth make up for it? My poor 7950 isnt liking my 4k gaming and im planning on upgrading soon.


    Honestly, I think the fast GPU and high memory bandwidth will make texture swapping not that painful. Especially with PCI-E 3.0
    I don't think that games go *that* far over 4 GB that it would be outright thrashing.

    It's not surprising the 7950 is slow in 4K. It is only a mid-range card now. It is good for about 1920x1080 at barely high settings in new games.
  41. From what I've read the 390/390x will be 4096 stream processors, 4gb HBM-4096bit mem bus and could be competing with the GTX980ti 2560 cuda cores, 8gb gddr5, 384bit bus, 190w tdp.

    The 380x should have 4096 stream processors, 4gb HBM-1024bit mem bus, 300w tdp. It is suppose to compete with the gtx980.

    The 380/385 probably will be same as 380x with less stream processors with roughly a 300w tdp set to compete with the gtx970.

    The 370/370x should be 3gb gddr5, 384bit bus. Competing with the GTX960.

    The 360/360x should be 2gb gddr5, 256bit bus. Maybe pairing up the the GTX950.

    If your not sure to snag a cheap 290/290x now or wait, I'd wait for he 300 series for the "full" dx12 support. AMD anouced the current GCN based card will support dx12 to an extent but most likely will not support dx12's full feature set. Test have already been done by anandatech with dx12 and Windows 10 beta with a 290x and 780ti with star swarm. The 290x had a 400% performance increase while the 780ti had a 165% performance increase. Neither of these cards fully support dx12 and are still showing big performance gains, so the new cards that do should be even better. Just gotta wait till next year when some dx12 games start showing up.

    I also heard on tek syndicate show that dx12 will allow the use of AMD and Nvidia cards in the same machine working together. Also may allow the use of two card that aren't the same.... Say a 380x and 360x in crossfire.... We'll see I guess.
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  42. Anyone has seen any FLOPs numbers for the 390X? I think I saw 8.x TFLOPs for SP. That will put it ahead of the TITAN X, but I don't know how that will translate to games, really.

    Cheers!
  43. Yuka said:
    Anyone has seen any FLOPs numbers for the 390X? I think I saw 8.x TFLOPs for SP. That will put it ahead of the TITAN X, but I don't know how that will translate to games, really.

    Cheers!


    that numbers will look nice to HPC crowd. but will it matter much in games? GTX780Ti have 5.04TFlops. GTX980 have 4.6TFlops. in games 980 still faster.
  44. 8,192.
    Theoretical benchmarks aren't a good indication, anyway. AMD's architecture is integer based, whereas NVIDIA's is floating point.
    Theoretically, the 390x would be 1.33x faster, though I doubt it. On some of the cards I've seen of AMD, this value has been a bit higher for the same performance.
  45. AMD Fiji has two GPUs
    http://www.fudzilla.com/news/graphics/37373-amd-fiji-has-two-gpus
    Quote:

    So, when Fudzilla wrote that Fiji is going to ship with 8GB of RAM, we didn’t actually think that we were talking about two separate GPUs, on separate interposers, with each GPU using 4GB of HBM1 memory. This is how AMD got to 8GB, or should we say two times 4GB for this card. It makes much more sense now, and of course we would not be surprised to see Fiji for notebooks and lower-end desktop products in a single GPU configuration.
  46. Well, if Fiji turns out being a dual GPU config will really bummer me, but I guess it's not that bad if they put extra effort in making it work seamlessly... I really hope they get a decent single GPU out of it in any case.

    Cheers!
  47. Yuka said:
    Well, if Fiji turns out being a dual GPU config will really bummer me, but I guess it's not that bad if they put extra effort in making it work seamlessly... I really hope they get a decent single GPU out of it in any case.

    Cheers!

    IIRC fiji was supposed to be a dual gpu card, then the subsequent batch of rumors suggested that fiji will be single gpu, the next batch chaned litho from 20nm to 28nm and so on. fiji being dual gpu makes a lot of logical sense if you consider the other aspects of the gfx card - dual gpu means vram is counted together and we know that 4GB is the current spec (per gpu). the a.i.o. hybrid l.c.s. also makes sense since the gpu(s) will be 28nm. 2.5D package config will be highly beneficial for dual gpu cards for reducing physical footprints, layering etc. the pcie power inputs and card tdp also make more sense.

    now the stuff that don't make sense to me. the first one is the radeon core count 4096 - how is it measured? each gpu has 2048 and armed with HBM or is it 8192 cores? we know that the cooling subsystem will cost around $100-150, two high end gpus (read gfx cards) will be uh.. $350-400 apiece...? so 8GB HBM comes to $150-250? this would make building cheaper single gpu or cutdown versions much easier yet we'll be flooded with rebrands.

    all of these with plenty of Native Client.
  48. Yeah... Superficially, the information seems to make more sense for a dual GPU single slot card. Specially the need for liquid cooling, unless those were "special" cards or something (they were in display, so...).

    And the Stream count is aggregated per GPU, usually; that means 2x2048 if it's a dual GPU card.

    Now, on the other hand, they said "8GB" after saying 4GB was not enough (where the biggest indicator came from), so there might be Fiji and Fiji X2 at launch.

    Cheers!
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