Sign in with
Sign up | Sign in
Your question
Closed

AMD Radeon HD 7990 Spotted at GDC 2013

Last response: in US News comments
Share
a b U Graphics card
28 March 2013 21:09:32

Couldn't AMD have used a pretty girl to hold it instead!!??? C'mon make an effort at least :) 
28 March 2013 21:11:03

I typically buy Nvidia cards, but I have to say, nice job AMD! Always good to see new hardware.
Related resources
a b U Graphics card
28 March 2013 21:17:55

I thought this was the FirePro s10000... :o 
edit: my bad. After examine it a bit, there is difference on the bottom near the PCI Express connection
28 March 2013 21:21:15

It looks like the card might only require 2 8-pin connectors, which would be impressive if the rumored specs are accurate. Still not indicative of load power consumption, which could still go over 300W. Actually I would be surprised if it didn't.

I also really like that AMD is trying something different with the design of their cooler. It's definitely going to limit the types of enclosures it can reliably occupy, but it should at least address one of the problems AMD had with the 6990, noise in relation to thermals.
a c 143 U Graphics card
28 March 2013 21:22:00

AMD promised more HD 7X series, and they did...
28 March 2013 21:26:22

Well this seems anti-climatic after other news....
28 March 2013 21:28:23

dragonsqrrlIt looks like the card might only require 2 8-pin connectors, which would be impressive if the rumored specs are accurate. Still not indicative of load power consumption, which could still go over 300W. Actually I would be surprised if it didn't. I also really like that AMD is trying something different with the design of their cooler. It's definitely going to limit the types of enclosures it can reliably occupy, but it should at least address one of the problems AMD had with the 6990, noise in relation to thermals.

hmm, was the "read comments on forum" button removed? I any case, 375W not 300.
28 March 2013 21:28:36

I don't know what I like more, the card or the dude holding it.
28 March 2013 21:35:25

that graphic card will be REALLY LOUD with 3 fans like that.
a b U Graphics card
28 March 2013 21:43:27

dragonsqrrl said:
hmm, was the "read comments on forum" button removed? I any case, 375W not 300.

You have to do it manually :p 
28 March 2013 21:46:13

mafisometalthat graphic card will be REALLY LOUD with 3 fans like that.


I can see you've never owned a card with a good 3 fan setup. They aren't necessarily very loud, the fans can spin slowly to achieve the same cooling as a setup with two fans spinning fast. It's all down to how well it's designed. This is much better than AMD's previous vacuum cleaner design.
28 March 2013 21:55:26

i am the happy owner of 2x7970 but whats the point ,micro stuttering is still there , and now i removed one card in the hope soon will get beter drivers .Even in farcry 3 is bad with a single card.Other 7990 are on the market so we need drivers no other cards that are the same, shame amd...
28 March 2013 21:56:03

thats the card that powered the Battlefield 4 demonstration. it's using AMD bird technology to render those birds. AMD is stepping up their game.
a b U Graphics card
28 March 2013 21:57:22

AMD coming late to the party with an equivalent card and plans on pricing it the same as the Titan and GTX 690... Considering how the 7790 just got wrecked prior to release by the GTX 650 TI Boost, I am thinking that AMD doesn't learn from its mistakes.

The company is already losing money so lets go ahead and keep the same generation of cards in production even though the competition is developing superior products... Its not like AMD would lose market share due to these bad decisions...
28 March 2013 22:03:34

AMD 7990: I will devour all your essence! *omnomnomnom*
28 March 2013 22:08:38

viliu24i am the happy owner of 2x7970 but whats the point ,micro stuttering is still there , and now i removed one card in the hope soon will get beter drivers .Even in farcry 3 is bad with a single card.Other 7990 are on the market so we need drivers no other cards that are the same, shame amd...

Anandtech recently published a related acticle:

http://www.anandtech.com/show/6857/amd-stuttering-issue...

AMD is in the process of fixing their stuttering issues, and apparently they've already come a long way in addressing the problem. It's a really informative read, I would recommend taking a look.
a b U Graphics card
28 March 2013 22:35:36

No more HD 8000 series? I don't think alot of people are going to buy those high-end GPUs...
a b U Graphics card
28 March 2013 22:44:02

I know some people complain about micro-stuttering on AMD configs, but I must be lucky or something, but I run 2x 7970's (soon to be 3) all water cooled and Overclocked massively and I find no notice able stuttering problems (especially compared to my old QUAD-GPU system of 2x5970s)
28 March 2013 22:46:39

AMD needs to get their drivers under control. NVIDIA is getting it right. I saw 5% improvement in BF3 in their latest patch and that game is 2 years old.
28 March 2013 22:56:13

I have had 2 AMD graphic cards not holding together within 5 years( or 2 years for the other card), in some random error where when i do something heavy graphic, the computer restarts. and the error gets worse over several months till its opening minecraft makes it restart. temporary fix for my problem, use a old graphic card for a month and go back to the "good" AMD card, but the error returns.
now i switched to a Nvidia GTX 660 to see if it can survive longer.
28 March 2013 23:13:48

Where are all the people who cried over the titan price of $1000? Shouldn't a ton of you be whining about AMD's ridiculous price now too?...ROFL.

No matter, it's just dumb to say it in either company's case, but just saying.
28 March 2013 23:33:55

keith12Couldn't AMD have used a pretty girl to hold it instead!!??? C'mon make an effort at least


she's not a weight lifter, thing is probably 20#'s more than dr evils baby
28 March 2013 23:52:48

spartanmk2AMD 7990: I will devour all your essence! *omnomnomnom*

Way to go, Dehaka! hahaha
a c 175 U Graphics card
29 March 2013 00:22:09

They used the same heatsink as used in the Firepro S10000. It kinda reminds me of gigabyte Windforce triple coolers. I hope this is going to beat the 690 so competition will come again from both sides.

Another think I would point out is (even though it's out of topic), they should reduce the 7790 and the 7850 prices and maybe 7870 too. The 650 Ti Boost is an excellent card, AMD shouldn't take easy on it. They could also introduce 7850 GHz edition with boost.
29 March 2013 02:26:05

somebodyspecialWhere are all the people who cried over the titan price of $1000? Shouldn't a ton of you be whining about AMD's ridiculous price now too?...ROFL.No matter, it's just dumb to say it in either company's case, but just saying.

people complained because the titan was mauled by the 690 in the same price range. this 7990 is direct competition to the 690 and will likely maul the titan as well. I do agree the price is bad, but its not nearly as bad a deal as the titan.
a b U Graphics card
29 March 2013 02:29:29

somebodyspecialWhere are all the people who cried over the titan price of $1000? Shouldn't a ton of you be whining about AMD's ridiculous price now too?...ROFL.No matter, it's just dumb to say it in either company's case, but just saying.


Well honestly, this card should be vastly superior to Titan(30-40%) so the price may be somewhat justified. Although I would of like to seen it in the $700-$800 range for stock units and $900-$1000 for the modified OC'ed versions.
29 March 2013 04:09:49

I'm so torn right now over AMD/NV cards. On one hand, AMD has driven costs down I want them to remain a competitor in all markets they are currently in. That said, they DO have some stuttering/driver issues still - and I'd really love to see my old HD4890 card drivers updated. Sure it's an older card, that doesn't mean it isn't still a viable gaming card. It will run most stuff!

NVidia has crappy naming schemes (confusing as all hell) and they LOVE to gouge us on pricing. At what point do profit margins become downright silly?

In the end I want two things. I want an affordable piece of hardware, and I want my game to run properly. I don't care about fancy marketing, or even about how the card looks really. Heck, I'd be good with a black box and a couple of LEDs I can choose the color of. Hmm, now there's an idea. Nobody has done that yet.
29 March 2013 06:48:14

somebodyspecialWhere are all the people who cried over the titan price of $1000? Shouldn't a ton of you be whining about AMD's ridiculous price now too?...ROFL.No matter, it's just dumb to say it in either company's case, but just saying.


Titan is slower than $1000 690, 7990 will be faster. See the difference?
29 March 2013 08:10:41

I always wonder if a game (god forbid) is made from the start optimized for one card makes any other graphic card maker have a little bit harder time coming out with good drivers. Don't know but when I start up a game and boy are they a LOT of them advertizing Nvidia I do wonder if this could in any way have even the smallest effect here. Don't know but I think about this from time to time.
a b U Graphics card
29 March 2013 13:14:38

690 is getting competition. But it think that 2*680 is better than 2*7970
29 March 2013 13:33:13

keith12Couldn't AMD have used a pretty girl to hold it instead!!??? C'mon make an effort at least


Man, get a life
29 March 2013 13:40:15

JonnyDoughI'm so torn right now over AMD/NV cards. On one hand, AMD has driven costs down I want them to remain a competitor in all markets they are currently in. That said, they DO have some stuttering/driver issues still - and I'd really love to see my old HD4890 card drivers updated. Sure it's an older card, that doesn't mean it isn't still a viable gaming card. It will run most stuff!NVidia has crappy naming schemes (confusing as all hell) and they LOVE to gouge us on pricing. At what point do profit margins become downright silly?In the end I want two things. I want an affordable piece of hardware, and I want my game to run properly. I don't care about fancy marketing, or even about how the card looks really. Heck, I'd be good with a black box and a couple of LEDs I can choose the color of. Hmm, now there's an idea. Nobody has done that yet.


Micro stuttering is an issue with multiple GPU setups in general and it also affects Nvidia cards. I run two 7970's myself and I personally don't notice any of the micro stutters people talk about. I just think some people are more sensitive to it than others.
29 March 2013 13:46:40

somebodyspecialWhere are all the people who cried over the titan price of $1000? Shouldn't a ton of you be whining about AMD's ridiculous price now too?...ROFL.No matter, it's just dumb to say it in either company's case, but just saying.


Titan cost as much as the Nvida 690 and was a lot slower, that why the price for Titan is ridiculous. Also the article stated no pricing information was release but they think it will be close to $1000. Since the Nvidia 690 is $999 I'd actually expect the 7990 to come in around $899 and be faster than the 690. It also comes in with 6 GB of Ram compared to 4 GB on the 690. It will be a much better value than the Nvidia card.
29 March 2013 15:45:49

Hm, maybe NVidia just come out the 700's series? and force 7990 price down? That would be a bad day for AMD, but i doubt since it's early for the next gen. Maybe if it's in the 600-800$ range I might try my first AMD gpu :D  with the 7990
29 March 2013 19:05:33

tadej petric690 is getting competition. But it think that 2*680 is better than 2*7970


the 690 got competition from nvidia, the titan.
dual gpu preformance without the downside of dual gpus
29 March 2013 20:01:46

tadej petric690 is getting competition. But it think that 2*680 is better than 2*7970

You think wrong. Just google cf 7950 vs sli 680. Even cf 7950 is faster in most games (up to 150%) while sli 680 wins only in Skyrim and when PhysX is enabled.
30 March 2013 07:36:53

I am in anxious about the Future, in the future how many pixel are increase No idea.
30 March 2013 19:31:55

colson79 said:
JonnyDoughI'm so torn right now over AMD/NV cards. On one hand, AMD has driven costs down I want them to remain a competitor in all markets they are currently in. That said, they DO have some stuttering/driver issues still - and I'd really love to see my old HD4890 card drivers updated. Sure it's an older card, that doesn't mean it isn't still a viable gaming card. It will run most stuff!NVidia has crappy naming schemes (confusing as all hell) and they LOVE to gouge us on pricing. At what point do profit margins become downright silly?In the end I want two things. I want an affordable piece of hardware, and I want my game to run properly. I don't care about fancy marketing, or even about how the card looks really. Heck, I'd be good with a black box and a couple of LEDs I can choose the color of. Hmm, now there's an idea. Nobody has done that yet.


Micro stuttering is an issue with multiple GPU setups in general and it also affects Nvidia cards. I run two 7970's myself and I personally don't notice any of the micro stutters people talk about. I just think some people are more sensitive to it than others.


I think it has to do more with the application that is running. It all depends on the game. Even with single card setups, I have noticed some stuttering in TF2 on a single AMD card at times. I believe that non-vertical sync tearing could probably be eliminated as well, but that may be up to the monitor companies to solve that one. We need standards. Standards standards standards.
a c 86 U Graphics card
30 March 2013 23:29:57

somebodyspecialWhere are all the people who cried over the titan price of $1000? Shouldn't a ton of you be whining about AMD's ridiculous price now too?...ROFL.No matter, it's just dumb to say it in either company's case, but just saying.


$1000 is a bad price for Titan. It's not too bad for a Radeon 7990 just like it's not too bad for a GTX 690.
a c 86 U Graphics card
30 March 2013 23:32:50

alidanthe 690 got competition from nvidia, the titan. dual gpu preformance without the downside of dual gpus


Titan isn't anywhere near as fast as the GTX 690 in most situations. It's only dual-GPU performance if you compare it to something like two GTX 660 cardss or maybe two GTX 660 Ti cards.
a c 86 U Graphics card
30 March 2013 23:38:28

JonnyDoughI think it has to do more with the application that is running. It all depends on the game. Even with single card setups, I have noticed some stuttering in TF2 on a single AMD card at times. I believe that non-vertical sync tearing could probably be eliminated as well, but that may be up to the monitor companies to solve that one. We need standards. Standards standards standards.


Micro-stutter only happens with multi-GPU arrays and us usually only noticeably bad with lower end arrays and/or dual-GPU arrays, especially from older generations. The current generations are a lot better about it even with their lower end cards and are generally excellent, especially with the top-end cards. There are some types of stutter than can happen on single-GPU cards, but they're not micro-stutter.

It is true that it has a lot to do with the game that is running and to an extent, even some of the settings, granted there are many other factors even up to some of the hardware, other software, and firmware.
30 March 2013 23:44:15

Thank you for reiterating everything I said.
a c 86 U Graphics card
31 March 2013 05:25:43

JonnyDough said:
Thank you for reiterating everything I said.


Assuming that you're referring to me, I didn't reiterate everything that you said.
a b U Graphics card
31 March 2013 20:43:50

I would prefer Titan if 7990 costs me over a $1000
1 April 2013 16:31:07

At a $1000 I would still choose the Titan over this card or the GTX690. Because the performance on the Titan is still very high even though it's not as high as the dual GPU configurations. it still gets a very high level of performance without any of the downsides of the Dual GPU configs. Like scaling issues on certain games and micro stutter.

Plus after the second GPU you start getting seriously diminishing return on investment. The third GPU gives quite a bit less of a performance increase than you got with the second one, and with the fourth GPU it gets even worse.

A $1000 graphics card is way out of my budget [I would have to find a new wife] But if I were to spend that much I would get the Titan and run that beast for about a couple of years and by then I could get a second one for less money and it would make a great bang for my buck upgrade. It's actually how I do it anyway. I buy the most expensive card I can afford, run it for a couple years or so and then get a second one at a much cheaper price. It gives you a nice performance increase for a good price, because the card is outdated by then and can be bought on the cheap. Plus by then the drivers are very mature and the games have been patched pretty well by that time too.

I think most people would be pretty happy with frame rates on an overclocked Titan, even with a really high resolution setup. I know I would. Even though either of the dual GPU cards handily beat the performance of the Titan, they're still too close in performance for me to choose the Dual GPU configs. Especially if you overclock it. If there were no such thing as micro stutter or scaling issues then I would obviously choose one of the dual cards. I'm not against dual GPU's or anything, it's what I have now. But if the performance is in the same ballpark between a single or dual setup then I will choose single. And the performance is at least in the same ballpark between the 7990, GTX690 and Titan.
a c 86 U Graphics card
1 April 2013 17:04:33

actionjksn said:
At a $1000 I would still choose the Titan over this card or the GTX690. Because the performance on the Titan is still very high even though it's not as high as the dual GPU configurations. it still gets a very high level of performance without any of the downsides of the Dual GPU configs. Like scaling issues on certain games and micro stutter.

Plus after the second GPU you start getting seriously diminishing return on investment. The third GPU gives quite a bit less of a performance increase than you got with the second one, and with the fourth GPU it gets even worse.

A $1000 graphics card is way out of my budget [I would have to find a new wife] But if I were to spend that much I would get the Titan and run that beast for about a couple of years and by then I could get a second one for less money and it would make a great bang for my buck upgrade. It's actually how I do it anyway. I buy the most expensive card I can afford, run it for a couple years or so and then get a second one at a much cheaper price. It gives you a nice performance increase for a good price, because the card is outdated by then and can be bought on the cheap. Plus by then the drivers are very mature and the games have been patched pretty well by that time too.

I think most people would be pretty happy with frame rates on an overclocked Titan, even with a really high resolution setup. I know I would. Even though either of the dual GPU cards handily beat the performance of the Titan, they're still too close in performance for me to choose the Dual GPU configs. Especially if you overclock it. If there were no such thing as micro stutter or scaling issues then I would obviously choose one of the dual cards. I'm not against dual GPU's or anything, it's what I have now. But if the performance is in the same ballpark between a single or dual setup then I will choose single. And the performance is at least in the same ballpark between the 7990, GTX690 and Titan.


Actually, triple GPU scaling is usually pretty with modern games, hardware, and drivers. Quad GPU scaling still often isn't, but can be and it might improve more in the future.

Titan may be in the same ballpark as the 690 and such, but only barely. It's still much slower. Overclocking, as of yet, has not been shown to improve it's situation AFAIK.

I also doubt that its price will go down too well later on. Short production run absolutely top end cards like it oftentimes don't go down in price nearly as quickly as the rest of their generation. That's part of what can give any reason for buying the top-end dual-GPU cards, IE the return on investment from selling them later can be pretty good because they tend to depreciate in value slowly compared to the lower end cards.