I just got linux really working for the first time, Mandrake 9.2, with internet and all. One thing, I chose to install the game package, but I only have two games, breakout and frozen bubbles, where did all the games go?

"640K oughta be enough for anybody." - Bill Gates
That'll be enough L1 cache for me too...

after working with linux for a week or so now i am begining to see the light. linux is for f@gs with nothing better to do but debug an entire kernel to get a program like notepad to work right.

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Actually, I like linux because I don't want to pay money for software. Plus, its not Windows, and not everyone can use it.

"640K oughta be enough for anybody." - Bill Gates
That'll be enough L1 cache for me too...

Very few linux users actually debug a kernel.

rpm -Uvh nano<tab> <enter>

will install the nano editor just fine. Sure, it's a little harder than double clicking an icon, but the difference surely isn't as great as the one between laced shoes and velcro.

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Man, I hate nano. Give me vi any day ;-)

FWIW, I tend to use gEdit for my non-hacking notepad needs. Seeing as how I like to click the icons and everything. :-)

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I used to use pico all the time, but gentoo uses nano by default for the install and setup. I just got used to it

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Linux is somewhat a waste of time. Nothing works right for me, but that's obviously my fault, and i've learned that you are punished for buying newer computer equipment when using linux.

Mandrake 10's look and feel is great. I definately like it a lot better than windows. It just sucks that nothing works right. 9800pro doesn't work. My soundblaster live 5.1 doesn't work right. My internet is slower, only on some pages.

Although for free.. and all the bonus things it comes with it's pretty sweet.
I'll be taking a unix class soon , so i'm sure linux wont be near as hard after that.. although it's seeming pointless to use it due to windows domination.

Basically linux isn't going anywhere untill some distro can make it easy enough for someones grandma. Something.. i'm not sure unix is capable of. I'd hate to see how good of a job windows will do on their unix platform.
I'm not flaming linux because i do enjoy it due to it being different, but that's really the end of it.

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im just trying to learn it because every where i look it employers are looking for linux or unix experience.

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I reckon Linux is fine for grandma (who wouldn't be setting her machine up anyway), but it's the gamers and midrange Windows used and similar who it's not ready for yet. Folks who like to click lots of installers and run the bleeding edge drivers and games, and who need the system to be forgiving of their mistakes (eg, Windows system file protection). Folks who know Windows backwards, but get frustrated by Linux being so different when they try it out. At least with Apple although things are different, they "just work".

But for the folks in Linux-land, it's hard to make software that "just works" with new stuff when you have no control over the hardware, and the hardware vendors aren't very helpful. It's also hard for the end users when some of the developers are free software bigots and won't provide easy to use installers for non-free software. Some distros have gone a way to make things easier, but I think there's a middle ground between the old-school distros and the likes of Lin- (or whatever they call themselves now).

In your particular case, there seems to be ATI and SB5.1...

ATI has accelerated 3D drivers online, but in my experience they've been hard to find, and relatively hard to install. Heck most people don't even read the instrustions for this kind of stuff, and for a non-techie it's all Greek anyway. The distros really need options for choosing non-free drivers in the X setup screens, and need vendor support to allow distro-customised distribution of them... BTW, there's also XiG which makes a fine (non-free) accelerated X server for ATI cards, and that's also an option worth checking out.

Re SB, there are EMU10K and Audigy drivers in Alsa (the 2.6 kernel sound framework) now, so if it's not working right, submit a bug report to Mandrake with what's not working and what should be different, and get it sorted. If you had problems with it, you won't be the only one.

The page loading issue was discussed in another thread, and it may be Mozilla is not set to "Enable Pipelining".

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EMU10K driver works fine with my SB Live! Value (Knoppix 3.3 HD installed & Kernel 2.4.24)

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Mozilla is set to enable pipelining, but i feel that its the ipv6 that's causing th eproblem. Problem is i don't really understand how to uninstall it.

ATI pisses me off when it comes to linux.. and linux pisses me off becuase im stupid pretty much.

I do enjoy doing command line things such as installing programs and whatnot, but the problem is its a steep learning curve.

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Huh quite an unexpected response from a CS player


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what does linux have to do with cs?

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CS players are f@gs.

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so by deffinition i would be a fag? i can assure you im not.

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I play CS too, and I'm not a fag. I was pointing out your fvcked up generalization that linux is for fags.

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so, you just proved yourself wrong then?

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Not at all.

You said linux is for fags. I think it isn't.

I made a generalization that perhaps all CS players were fags, because some are. You said they weren't. I agreed.

So now we go back to your statement about linux. Hopefully you've learned that making rash generalizations is stupid.

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If you want UNIX experience, I would advise getting Solaris for x86 from Sun. If I remember right, you have to pay a fee. Most companies use Solaris for their "UNIX" systems. They also want people with enterprise experience. If the company you are working for uses Solaris, see if you they will let you "intern" with that department. Though I have UNIX experience, there are a lot more people qualified than me. Lucky for me I do have friends who know UNIX extremely well and I get all the help I want from them. That is seriously the best way to go. Having Linux experience will help, but Solaris is worth a lot more.