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I have a Intel Pentium III 800 MHz 128 in a dell Dimension 4100, and
would like to set it so it boots from CD first, for a linux live cd. I
have CD rom set a secondary Master. Would I have to set it to master?

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"How Do I Configure My DellT DimensionT 4100 to Boot from the CD Drive?"
http://tinyurl.com/adts6

Ted Zieglar

"bdeditch" <bdeditch@gmail.com> wrote in message news:1127794824.781268.4270@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>I have a Intel Pentium III 800 MHz 128 in a dell Dimension 4100, and
> would like to set it so it boots from CD first, for a linux live cd. I
> have CD rom set a secondary Master. Would I have to set it to master?
>

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On Mon, 26 Sep 2005 21:20:24 -0700, bdeditch wrote:

> I have a Intel Pentium III 800 MHz 128 in a dell Dimension 4100, and
> would like to set it so it boots from CD first, for a linux live cd. I
> have CD rom set a secondary Master. Would I have to set it to master?

No. You just need to change the boot order in the bios.

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"johnny" <johnny@n0sq.us> wrote in message
newsan.2005.09.28.00.12.48.255078@n0sq.us...
> On Mon, 26 Sep 2005 21:20:24 -0700, bdeditch wrote:
>
>> I have a Intel Pentium III 800 MHz 128 in a dell Dimension 4100, and
>> would like to set it so it boots from CD first, for a linux live cd. I
>> have CD rom set a secondary Master. Would I have to set it to master?
>
> No. You just need to change the boot order in the bios.
>

In fact, ALL of the drives should be set for Cable Select.

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No. You just need to change the boot order in the bios

I already tried this Johnny and it did not work

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"bdeditch" <bdeditch@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> No. You just need to change the boot order in the bios
>
> I already tried this Johnny and it did not work
>

Did you set the drives back to Cable Select? What CD are you trying to
boot? Have you tried to boot it in another computer?

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I do not think they are set to cable select, I have tried to boot up
the disk from another computor and it worked.

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Tom is correct, of course. And this brings up a minor question for me.

Last night I installed a BenQ DVD drive into my Dimension 4500. (The
DW1640 - it rocks.) Reading through the user reviews on Newegg's web site, I
came across several reviewers who wrote that this drive won't work with
Win2K or WinXP unless it's jumpered master/slave as opposed to cable select.
Didn't make sense to me, but I didn't have a lot of disposable time so I
just jumpered the drive to master and stuck it in. So far it works very
well.

So here's my minor question: Every other hard/optical drive I have is
jumpered cable select. Does it make any difference that this drive is
jumpered master?

--
Ted Zieglar
"You can do it if you try."

"Tom Scales" <tomtoo@softhome.net> wrote in message
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>
> "johnny" <johnny@n0sq.us> wrote in message
> newsan.2005.09.28.00.12.48.255078@n0sq.us...
> > On Mon, 26 Sep 2005 21:20:24 -0700, bdeditch wrote:
> >
> >> I have a Intel Pentium III 800 MHz 128 in a dell Dimension 4100, and
> >> would like to set it so it boots from CD first, for a linux live cd. I
> >> have CD rom set a secondary Master. Would I have to set it to master?
> >
> > No. You just need to change the boot order in the bios.
> >
>
> In fact, ALL of the drives should be set for Cable Select.
>
>
>

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As long as you put it on the Master connector (end of the cable), it makes
no difference if you jumpered it CS or Master.


"Ted Zieglar" <teddyz@notmail.com> wrote in message
news:CHw_e.8$XC5.150676@news.sisna.com...
> Tom is correct, of course. And this brings up a minor question for me.
>
> Last night I installed a BenQ DVD drive into my Dimension 4500. (The
> DW1640 - it rocks.) Reading through the user reviews on Newegg's web site,
> I
> came across several reviewers who wrote that this drive won't work with
> Win2K or WinXP unless it's jumpered master/slave as opposed to cable
> select.
> Didn't make sense to me, but I didn't have a lot of disposable time so I
> just jumpered the drive to master and stuck it in. So far it works very
> well.
>
> So here's my minor question: Every other hard/optical drive I have is
> jumpered cable select. Does it make any difference that this drive is
> jumpered master?
>
> --
> Ted Zieglar
> "You can do it if you try."
>
> "Tom Scales" <tomtoo@softhome.net> wrote in message
> news:4il_e.108751$4i6.81508@tornado.tampabay.rr.com...
>>
>> "johnny" <johnny@n0sq.us> wrote in message
>> newsan.2005.09.28.00.12.48.255078@n0sq.us...
>> > On Mon, 26 Sep 2005 21:20:24 -0700, bdeditch wrote:
>> >
>> >> I have a Intel Pentium III 800 MHz 128 in a dell Dimension 4100, and
>> >> would like to set it so it boots from CD first, for a linux live cd. I
>> >> have CD rom set a secondary Master. Would I have to set it to master?
>> >
>> > No. You just need to change the boot order in the bios.
>> >
>>
>> In fact, ALL of the drives should be set for Cable Select.
>>
>>
>>
>

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Thanks Tom. Once I've completely tested the drive, I'm going to switch the
jumper to cable select. I'll bet that nothing bad happens.

--
Ted Zieglar
"You can do it if you try."

"Tom Scales" <tomtoo@softhome.net> wrote in message
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> As long as you put it on the Master connector (end of the cable), it makes
> no difference if you jumpered it CS or Master.
>
>
> "Ted Zieglar" <teddyz@notmail.com> wrote in message
> news:CHw_e.8$XC5.150676@news.sisna.com...
> > Tom is correct, of course. And this brings up a minor question for me.
> >
> > Last night I installed a BenQ DVD drive into my Dimension 4500. (The
> > DW1640 - it rocks.) Reading through the user reviews on Newegg's web
site,
> > I
> > came across several reviewers who wrote that this drive won't work with
> > Win2K or WinXP unless it's jumpered master/slave as opposed to cable
> > select.
> > Didn't make sense to me, but I didn't have a lot of disposable time so I
> > just jumpered the drive to master and stuck it in. So far it works very
> > well.
> >
> > So here's my minor question: Every other hard/optical drive I have is
> > jumpered cable select. Does it make any difference that this drive is
> > jumpered master?
> >
> > --
> > Ted Zieglar
> > "You can do it if you try."
> >
> > "Tom Scales" <tomtoo@softhome.net> wrote in message
> > news:4il_e.108751$4i6.81508@tornado.tampabay.rr.com...
> >>
> >> "johnny" <johnny@n0sq.us> wrote in message
> >> newsan.2005.09.28.00.12.48.255078@n0sq.us...
> >> > On Mon, 26 Sep 2005 21:20:24 -0700, bdeditch wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> I have a Intel Pentium III 800 MHz 128 in a dell Dimension 4100, and
> >> >> would like to set it so it boots from CD first, for a linux live cd.
I
> >> >> have CD rom set a secondary Master. Would I have to set it to
master?
> >> >
> >> > No. You just need to change the boot order in the bios.
> >> >
> >>
> >> In fact, ALL of the drives should be set for Cable Select.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
>
>

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On Tue, 27 Sep 2005 19:30:12 -0700, bdeditch wrote:

> No. You just need to change the boot order in the bios
>
> I already tried this Johnny and it did not work

Then you have a defective CD or non-bootable CD in the drive or there's
something seriously wrong with your hardware or in the way the drive is
installed. I would suggest trying to boot from the CD on another PC to see
if the CD is OK. If it is OK, you probably should check the straps on the
back of the drives to see if they're properly set as master (MA) or slave
(SL). There are some systems that use "cable select" (CS) to automatically
assign master/slave but that requires a special cable. This is not an
all-inclusive check but it's a start. I don't remember if this is a new
laptop but, if it is, Dell tech support should be able to help you. It
would be faster to diagnose with a call to tech support. Keep in mind that
opening up a laptop is not for the faint of heart and you could mess up
something else if you're not careful - and if it's under warranty I
wouldn't mess with things inside.

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On Wed, 28 Sep 2005 00:17:04 +0000, Tom Scales wrote:

>
> "johnny" <johnny@n0sq.us> wrote in message
> newsan.2005.09.28.00.12.48.255078@n0sq.us...
>> On Mon, 26 Sep 2005 21:20:24 -0700, bdeditch wrote:
>>
>>> I have a Intel Pentium III 800 MHz 128 in a dell Dimension 4100, and
>>> would like to set it so it boots from CD first, for a linux live cd. I
>>> have CD rom set a secondary Master. Would I have to set it to master?
>>
>> No. You just need to change the boot order in the bios.
>>
>
> In fact, ALL of the drives should be set for Cable Select.

I prefer not to use CS. Just my preference.

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On Wed, 28 Sep 2005 09:15:48 -0400, Ted Zieglar wrote:

> Tom is correct, of course. And this brings up a minor question for me.
>
> Last night I installed a BenQ DVD drive into my Dimension 4500. (The
> DW1640 - it rocks.) Reading through the user reviews on Newegg's web site, I
> came across several reviewers who wrote that this drive won't work with
> Win2K or WinXP unless it's jumpered master/slave as opposed to cable select.
> Didn't make sense to me, but I didn't have a lot of disposable time so I
> just jumpered the drive to master and stuck it in. So far it works very
> well.
>
> So here's my minor question: Every other hard/optical drive I have is
> jumpered cable select. Does it make any difference that this drive is
> jumpered master?

CS only works with a special IDE cable that is designed for CS. CS
assigns master/slave based on which IDE connector the drive is attached
to. The master or slave strap on the back of the drive will override this
feature.

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"johnny" <johnny@n0sq.us> wrote in message
newsan.2005.09.29.00.10.39.452147@n0sq.us...
> On Wed, 28 Sep 2005 09:15:48 -0400, Ted Zieglar wrote:
>
>> Tom is correct, of course. And this brings up a minor question for me.
>>
>> Last night I installed a BenQ DVD drive into my Dimension 4500. (The
>> DW1640 - it rocks.) Reading through the user reviews on Newegg's web
>> site, I
>> came across several reviewers who wrote that this drive won't work with
>> Win2K or WinXP unless it's jumpered master/slave as opposed to cable
>> select.
>> Didn't make sense to me, but I didn't have a lot of disposable time so I
>> just jumpered the drive to master and stuck it in. So far it works very
>> well.
>>
>> So here's my minor question: Every other hard/optical drive I have is
>> jumpered cable select. Does it make any difference that this drive is
>> jumpered master?
>
> CS only works with a special IDE cable that is designed for CS. CS
> assigns master/slave based on which IDE connector the drive is attached
> to. The master or slave strap on the back of the drive will override this
> feature.
>


No, it won't. If you put a drive jumpered Slave on the end of a CS cable,
it will be the master, but unpredictable.

We appreciate your help here, but you may want to learn a little more about
Dells before sharing general knowledge that doesn't apply.

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"johnny" <johnny@n0sq.us> wrote in message
newsan.2005.09.29.00.05.06.918961@n0sq.us...
> On Wed, 28 Sep 2005 00:17:04 +0000, Tom Scales wrote:
>
>>
>> "johnny" <johnny@n0sq.us> wrote in message
>> newsan.2005.09.28.00.12.48.255078@n0sq.us...
>>> On Mon, 26 Sep 2005 21:20:24 -0700, bdeditch wrote:
>>>
>>>> I have a Intel Pentium III 800 MHz 128 in a dell Dimension 4100, and
>>>> would like to set it so it boots from CD first, for a linux live cd. I
>>>> have CD rom set a secondary Master. Would I have to set it to master?
>>>
>>> No. You just need to change the boot order in the bios.
>>>
>>
>> In fact, ALL of the drives should be set for Cable Select.
>
> I prefer not to use CS. Just my preference.
>

Good for you, but all Dells come with CS cables and drives jumpered as CS.
Seems silly to replace the cables.