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I am not interested in servicing other people's computers, but I do enjoy
computers as a hobby.

Dell offers a self-study course for Associate-level DCSE training. If anyone
has taken this course (or the classroom version of same), can you tell me
what it covers? Do you suppose it would be interesting to a hobbyist with a
geek streak?

Ted Zieglar

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I have Ted,as an employeee we have to take them, they cover all current
models and you have to take each exam each year to stay Certified. The exams
themselves are fairly straight forward and cover all aspects of stripping
down the machines as well as hardware configuration
"Ted Zieglar" <teddyz@notmail.com> wrote in message
news:F%W1e.7$Og4.2019479@news.sisna.com...
>I am not interested in servicing other people's computers, but I do enjoy
> computers as a hobby.
>
> Dell offers a self-study course for Associate-level DCSE training. If
> anyone
> has taken this course (or the classroom version of same), can you tell me
> what it covers? Do you suppose it would be interesting to a hobbyist with
> a
> geek streak?
>
> Ted Zieglar
>
>
>

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Thanks for your reply. I wouldn't be interested in the certification
actually, just the education. If it teaches about "stripping down the
machines as well as hardware configuration" that sounds like something I
might really enjoy. I'm doing this for the pure fun of learning, and since I
plan to stick with Dell computers in the future, it could help me learn
about my computer.

Ted Zieglar

"Fixer" <steve.h1@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
news2a299$d6u$1@news6.svr.pol.co.uk...
>I have Ted,as an employeee we have to take them, they cover all current
>models and you have to take each exam each year to stay Certified. The
>exams themselves are fairly straight forward and cover all aspects of
>stripping down the machines as well as hardware configuration
> "Ted Zieglar" <teddyz@notmail.com> wrote in message
> news:F%W1e.7$Og4.2019479@news.sisna.com...
>>I am not interested in servicing other people's computers, but I do enjoy
>> computers as a hobby.
>>
>> Dell offers a self-study course for Associate-level DCSE training. If
>> anyone
>> has taken this course (or the classroom version of same), can you tell me
>> what it covers? Do you suppose it would be interesting to a hobbyist with
>> a
>> geek streak?
>>
>> Ted Zieglar
>>
>>
>>
>
>

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Ted,

Consider the A+ program. I think it will be more useful.

Tom
"Ted Zieglar" <teddyz@notmail.com> wrote in message
newsvadnS50J-B2JdXfRVn-gA@comcast.com...
> Thanks for your reply. I wouldn't be interested in the certification
> actually, just the education. If it teaches about "stripping down the
> machines as well as hardware configuration" that sounds like something I
> might really enjoy. I'm doing this for the pure fun of learning, and since
> I plan to stick with Dell computers in the future, it could help me learn
> about my computer.
>
> Ted Zieglar
>
> "Fixer" <steve.h1@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
> news2a299$d6u$1@news6.svr.pol.co.uk...
>>I have Ted,as an employeee we have to take them, they cover all current
>>models and you have to take each exam each year to stay Certified. The
>>exams themselves are fairly straight forward and cover all aspects of
>>stripping down the machines as well as hardware configuration
>> "Ted Zieglar" <teddyz@notmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:F%W1e.7$Og4.2019479@news.sisna.com...
>>>I am not interested in servicing other people's computers, but I do enjoy
>>> computers as a hobby.
>>>
>>> Dell offers a self-study course for Associate-level DCSE training. If
>>> anyone
>>> has taken this course (or the classroom version of same), can you tell
>>> me
>>> what it covers? Do you suppose it would be interesting to a hobbyist
>>> with a
>>> geek streak?
>>>
>>> Ted Zieglar
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>

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"The A+ program"...I'm not familiar with it. Is it sponsored by Dell
(forgive my ignorance) and could you post a URL for it?

Ted Zieglar

"Tom Scales" <tomtoo@softhome.net> wrote in message
news:9m32e.7128$vd.2557@tornado.tampabay.rr.com...
> Ted,
>
> Consider the A+ program. I think it will be more useful.
>
> Tom
> "Ted Zieglar" <teddyz@notmail.com> wrote in message
> newsvadnS50J-B2JdXfRVn-gA@comcast.com...
>> Thanks for your reply. I wouldn't be interested in the certification
>> actually, just the education. If it teaches about "stripping down the
>> machines as well as hardware configuration" that sounds like something I
>> might really enjoy. I'm doing this for the pure fun of learning, and
>> since I plan to stick with Dell computers in the future, it could help me
>> learn about my computer.
>>
>> Ted Zieglar
>>
>> "Fixer" <steve.h1@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
>> news2a299$d6u$1@news6.svr.pol.co.uk...
>>>I have Ted,as an employeee we have to take them, they cover all current
>>>models and you have to take each exam each year to stay Certified. The
>>>exams themselves are fairly straight forward and cover all aspects of
>>>stripping down the machines as well as hardware configuration
>>> "Ted Zieglar" <teddyz@notmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:F%W1e.7$Og4.2019479@news.sisna.com...
>>>>I am not interested in servicing other people's computers, but I do
>>>>enjoy
>>>> computers as a hobby.
>>>>
>>>> Dell offers a self-study course for Associate-level DCSE training. If
>>>> anyone
>>>> has taken this course (or the classroom version of same), can you tell
>>>> me
>>>> what it covers? Do you suppose it would be interesting to a hobbyist
>>>> with a
>>>> geek streak?
>>>>
>>>> Ted Zieglar
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>

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"Ted Zieglar" <teddyz@notmail.com> wrote in message
news:CfCdnVllOIVHUtXfRVn-2Q@comcast.com...
> "The A+ program"...I'm not familiar with it. Is it sponsored by Dell
> (forgive my ignorance) and could you post a URL for it?
>
> Ted Zieglar

Comptia A+

http://www.comptia.org/certification/a/default.aspx

Steve

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Ted,

The A+ Certification program teaches you to repair almost any computer.
Everything from ribbon cables to power supplies and just about everything in
between.

Your local Vo-Tech school, or Career & Technology center should offer an
on-line course.

Here's an example form one here in central PA.

http://www.ed2go.com/cgi-bin/newoi [...] tc&dept=CC

Joe

"Ted Zieglar" <teddyz@notmail.com> wrote in message
news:CfCdnVllOIVHUtXfRVn-2Q@comcast.com...
> "The A+ program"...I'm not familiar with it. Is it sponsored by Dell
> (forgive my ignorance) and could you post a URL for it?
>
> Ted Zieglar
>
> "Tom Scales" <tomtoo@softhome.net> wrote in message
> news:9m32e.7128$vd.2557@tornado.tampabay.rr.com...
>> Ted,
>>
>> Consider the A+ program. I think it will be more useful.
>>
>> Tom
>> "Ted Zieglar" <teddyz@notmail.com> wrote in message
>> newsvadnS50J-B2JdXfRVn-gA@comcast.com...
>>> Thanks for your reply. I wouldn't be interested in the certification
>>> actually, just the education. If it teaches about "stripping down the
>>> machines as well as hardware configuration" that sounds like something I
>>> might really enjoy. I'm doing this for the pure fun of learning, and
>>> since I plan to stick with Dell computers in the future, it could help
>>> me learn about my computer.
>>>
>>> Ted Zieglar
>>>
>>> "Fixer" <steve.h1@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
>>> news2a299$d6u$1@news6.svr.pol.co.uk...
>>>>I have Ted,as an employeee we have to take them, they cover all current
>>>>models and you have to take each exam each year to stay Certified. The
>>>>exams themselves are fairly straight forward and cover all aspects of
>>>>stripping down the machines as well as hardware configuration
>>>> "Ted Zieglar" <teddyz@notmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:F%W1e.7$Og4.2019479@news.sisna.com...
>>>>>I am not interested in servicing other people's computers, but I do
>>>>>enjoy
>>>>> computers as a hobby.
>>>>>
>>>>> Dell offers a self-study course for Associate-level DCSE training. If
>>>>> anyone
>>>>> has taken this course (or the classroom version of same), can you tell
>>>>> me
>>>>> what it covers? Do you suppose it would be interesting to a hobbyist
>>>>> with a
>>>>> geek streak?
>>>>>
>>>>> Ted Zieglar
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>

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Very cool. Thanks to Steve and joe.

Ted Zieglar

"joe_tide" <joetide@nowhere.com> wrote in message
news:114hlniirejo92c@corp.supernews.com...
> Ted,
>
> The A+ Certification program teaches you to repair almost any computer.
> Everything from ribbon cables to power supplies and just about everything
> in between.
>
> Your local Vo-Tech school, or Career & Technology center should offer an
> on-line course.
>
> Here's an example form one here in central PA.
>
> http://www.ed2go.com/cgi-bin/newoi [...] tc&dept=CC
>
> Joe
>
> "Ted Zieglar" <teddyz@notmail.com> wrote in message
> news:CfCdnVllOIVHUtXfRVn-2Q@comcast.com...
>> "The A+ program"...I'm not familiar with it. Is it sponsored by Dell
>> (forgive my ignorance) and could you post a URL for it?
>>
>> Ted Zieglar
>>
>> "Tom Scales" <tomtoo@softhome.net> wrote in message
>> news:9m32e.7128$vd.2557@tornado.tampabay.rr.com...
>>> Ted,
>>>
>>> Consider the A+ program. I think it will be more useful.
>>>
>>> Tom
>>> "Ted Zieglar" <teddyz@notmail.com> wrote in message
>>> newsvadnS50J-B2JdXfRVn-gA@comcast.com...
>>>> Thanks for your reply. I wouldn't be interested in the certification
>>>> actually, just the education. If it teaches about "stripping down the
>>>> machines as well as hardware configuration" that sounds like something
>>>> I might really enjoy. I'm doing this for the pure fun of learning, and
>>>> since I plan to stick with Dell computers in the future, it could help
>>>> me learn about my computer.
>>>>
>>>> Ted Zieglar
>>>>
>>>> "Fixer" <steve.h1@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
>>>> news2a299$d6u$1@news6.svr.pol.co.uk...
>>>>>I have Ted,as an employeee we have to take them, they cover all current
>>>>>models and you have to take each exam each year to stay Certified. The
>>>>>exams themselves are fairly straight forward and cover all aspects of
>>>>>stripping down the machines as well as hardware configuration
>>>>> "Ted Zieglar" <teddyz@notmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:F%W1e.7$Og4.2019479@news.sisna.com...
>>>>>>I am not interested in servicing other people's computers, but I do
>>>>>>enjoy
>>>>>> computers as a hobby.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dell offers a self-study course for Associate-level DCSE training. If
>>>>>> anyone
>>>>>> has taken this course (or the classroom version of same), can you
>>>>>> tell me
>>>>>> what it covers? Do you suppose it would be interesting to a hobbyist
>>>>>> with a
>>>>>> geek streak?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ted Zieglar
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>

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Just out of mind curiousity, what does Dell charge for the DCSE courses? As an
independent service provider, what benefit is there to me? I already rip apart
just about any type of Dell computer (except notebooks which require more TLC)
with my bare hands blindfolded, and get them back together again... Ben Myers

On Mon, 28 Mar 2005 23:59:57 +0100, "Fixer" <steve.h1@ntlworld.com> wrote:

>I have Ted,as an employeee we have to take them, they cover all current
>models and you have to take each exam each year to stay Certified. The exams
>themselves are fairly straight forward and cover all aspects of stripping
>down the machines as well as hardware configuration
>"Ted Zieglar" <teddyz@notmail.com> wrote in message
>news:F%W1e.7$Og4.2019479@news.sisna.com...
>>I am not interested in servicing other people's computers, but I do enjoy
>> computers as a hobby.
>>
>> Dell offers a self-study course for Associate-level DCSE training. If
>> anyone
>> has taken this course (or the classroom version of same), can you tell me
>> what it covers? Do you suppose it would be interesting to a hobbyist with
>> a
>> geek streak?
>>
>> Ted Zieglar
>>
>>
>>
>
>

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I think its about $500 per exam but dont quote me on it as the company pays
for ours
<ben_myers_spam_me_not @ charter.net (Ben Myers)> wrote in message
news:42497e9f.10412518@nntp.charter.net...
> Just out of mind curiousity, what does Dell charge for the DCSE courses?
> As an
> independent service provider, what benefit is there to me? I already rip
> apart
> just about any type of Dell computer (except notebooks which require more
> TLC)
> with my bare hands blindfolded, and get them back together again... Ben
> Myers
>
> On Mon, 28 Mar 2005 23:59:57 +0100, "Fixer" <steve.h1@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>
>>I have Ted,as an employeee we have to take them, they cover all current
>>models and you have to take each exam each year to stay Certified. The
>>exams
>>themselves are fairly straight forward and cover all aspects of stripping
>>down the machines as well as hardware configuration
>>"Ted Zieglar" <teddyz@notmail.com> wrote in message
>>news:F%W1e.7$Og4.2019479@news.sisna.com...
>>>I am not interested in servicing other people's computers, but I do enjoy
>>> computers as a hobby.
>>>
>>> Dell offers a self-study course for Associate-level DCSE training. If
>>> anyone
>>> has taken this course (or the classroom version of same), can you tell
>>> me
>>> what it covers? Do you suppose it would be interesting to a hobbyist
>>> with
>>> a
>>> geek streak?
>>>
>>> Ted Zieglar
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>

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Ben Myers posted for all of us...

> Just out of mind curiousity, what does Dell charge for the DCSE courses? As an
> independent service provider, what benefit is there to me? I already rip apart
> just about any type of Dell computer (except notebooks which require more TLC)
> with my bare hands blindfolded, and get them back together again... Ben Myers
>
IIRC last year they were about $180. I got a notice the price is going up
in May.

For us it's very easy parts access.
--

Tekkie

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ben_myers_spam_me_not @ charter.net (Ben Myers) wrote:

>Just out of mind curiousity, what does Dell charge for the DCSE courses? As an
>independent service provider, what benefit is there to me? I already rip apart
>just about any type of Dell computer (except notebooks which require more TLC)
>with my bare hands blindfolded, and get them back together again... Ben Myers

Remember, the OP's request was in terms of /learning/ to do what
you are already doing with your bare hands and blindfolded.

Someone else has already replied with a, maybe outdated, figure
of $180 for the course(s).

Back in the BODD, and into the early Win era, I went through a
real h/w geek spell, and there were a /lot/ of readily available,
relatively cheap books out there that, as long as you kept up
with current info from Byte/PC Mag/et al, you could learn how to
"rip apart [computers] with your bare hands blindfolded", and
even how to put the together, either from scratch or back. ;->.
[One of the main ones from that era sticks, dimly, in my mind as
"How to Upgrade and Repair Your PC" or somesuch.]

Alas, not all of us are fitted for unstructured learning of this
sort, either at all or for a given area. I did fine with
computer stuff, but I learned long ago that if I were ever going
to do car stuff for fun, I'd need a lot of instruction/classes.
For those, this Dell thing, at under $200 might be just the
thing.

I'd also suggest that the OP, presuming he lives in a reasonably
large metro sort of area, check out local colleges, HS adult ed
programs, or city/town/county run programs [Alexandria VA's Dept
of Recreation offers a number of computer courses for its
residents at nominal cost]. Again in the DC area, the Capital PC
User Group offers a lot of courses to their members, including a
paired "Before you Buy or Build" course on the basics, followed
by a "Build Your Own" workshop where instructors/volunteers help
you build if you decided on Build.

Like so much else in the world, there are so many different ways
to learn computer basics because there are so many different ways
folks learn thing best. However trite, "different strokes for
different folks" is an axiom on so much of life.
--
OJ III
[Email to Yahoo address may be burned before reading.
Lower and crunch the sig and you'll net me at comcast.]

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Agree with all you said. But I'll repeat: " As an independent service provider,
what benefit, if any, is there to me from a DCSE course?"

At lot of my unstructured work was under the auspices of PC Labs, PC Magazine,
PC Week, and Ziff-Davis Labs, back in the day when printed computer media was
king, Computer Shopper and PC Magazine ran 500 or 600 pages per issue, and many
companies ran a lot of printed ads. Back in the days before the internet became
king. A great learning environment, and with pay and generous expenses, too.

.... Ben Myers

On Wed, 30 Mar 2005 11:57:59 -0500, Ogden Johnson III <oj3usmc@yahoo.com> wrote:

>ben_myers_spam_me_not @ charter.net (Ben Myers) wrote:
>
>>Just out of mind curiousity, what does Dell charge for the DCSE courses? As an
>>independent service provider, what benefit is there to me? I already rip apart
>>just about any type of Dell computer (except notebooks which require more TLC)
>>with my bare hands blindfolded, and get them back together again... Ben Myers
>
>Remember, the OP's request was in terms of /learning/ to do what
>you are already doing with your bare hands and blindfolded.
>
>Someone else has already replied with a, maybe outdated, figure
>of $180 for the course(s).
>
>Back in the BODD, and into the early Win era, I went through a
>real h/w geek spell, and there were a /lot/ of readily available,
>relatively cheap books out there that, as long as you kept up
>with current info from Byte/PC Mag/et al, you could learn how to
>"rip apart [computers] with your bare hands blindfolded", and
>even how to put the together, either from scratch or back. ;->.
>[One of the main ones from that era sticks, dimly, in my mind as
>"How to Upgrade and Repair Your PC" or somesuch.]
>
>Alas, not all of us are fitted for unstructured learning of this
>sort, either at all or for a given area. I did fine with
>computer stuff, but I learned long ago that if I were ever going
>to do car stuff for fun, I'd need a lot of instruction/classes.
>For those, this Dell thing, at under $200 might be just the
>thing.
>
>I'd also suggest that the OP, presuming he lives in a reasonably
>large metro sort of area, check out local colleges, HS adult ed
>programs, or city/town/county run programs [Alexandria VA's Dept
>of Recreation offers a number of computer courses for its
>residents at nominal cost]. Again in the DC area, the Capital PC
>User Group offers a lot of courses to their members, including a
>paired "Before you Buy or Build" course on the basics, followed
>by a "Build Your Own" workshop where instructors/volunteers help
>you build if you decided on Build.
>
>Like so much else in the world, there are so many different ways
>to learn computer basics because there are so many different ways
>folks learn thing best. However trite, "different strokes for
>different folks" is an axiom on so much of life.
>--
>OJ III
>[Email to Yahoo address may be burned before reading.
>Lower and crunch the sig and you'll net me at comcast.]