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I am looking to purchase a new notebook computer and would prefer an
Apple system due to the superior architecture, reliability and
service. However, I am also opposed to outsourcing and will not buy
anything made outside the US and Canada unless it is impossible find
otherwise. Now I haven't been able to confirm where Apple has these
notebooks produced, but a brief search on Google hinted at Made in
China.

Is this the case? If so, I will pass on Apple and just go with a Dell
inorder to save a few bucks.

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In article <ef808dff.0409021742.1f76703d@posting.google.com>,
Mean Mr Mustard <macusr023@yahoo.com> wrote:
* I am looking to purchase a new notebook computer and would prefer an
* Apple system due to the superior architecture, reliability and
* service. However, I am also opposed to outsourcing and will not buy
* anything made outside the US and Canada unless it is impossible find
* otherwise. Now I haven't been able to confirm where Apple has these
* notebooks produced, but a brief search on Google hinted at Made in
* China.
*
* Is this the case? If so, I will pass on Apple and just go with a Dell
* inorder to save a few bucks.

Nice attempted troll. For the record, the Dell laptop I bought a few weeks
ago was made in Malaysia. I'm not sure that ANYONE makes laptops in the US
anymore.

p
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Paul Frankenstein wrote:

> In article <ef808dff.0409021742.1f76703d@posting.google.com>,
> Mean Mr Mustard <macusr023@yahoo.com> wrote:
> * I am looking to purchase a new notebook computer and would prefer an
> * Apple system due to the superior architecture, reliability and
> * service. However, I am also opposed to outsourcing and will not buy
> * anything made outside the US and Canada unless it is impossible find
> * otherwise. Now I haven't been able to confirm where Apple has these
> * notebooks produced, but a brief search on Google hinted at Made in
> * China.
> *
> * Is this the case? If so, I will pass on Apple and just go with a Dell
> * inorder to save a few bucks.
>
> Nice attempted troll. For the record, the Dell laptop I bought a few weeks
> ago was made in Malaysia. I'm not sure that ANYONE makes laptops in the US
> anymore.
>
> p
Of course it all depends on how you define "made"
I've forgotten the legal terms now, but you can have parts made all over the
world and shipped here and then assembled and call it made in the USA.

Working for a reseller for a few years we saw a high number of failures of
Apple gear, higher than Compaq, HP, IBM (didn't sell/service Dell since
they deal direct)

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Apple notebooks are made by Quanta and Compal, which are two of Dell's
biggest suppliers.
My iBook came from Taiwan; a brand-new Dell D800, from Malaysia, by way of
Compal, which also makes the wide-screen Apple PowerBooks for Apple.



"Mean Mr Mustard" <macusr023@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:ef808dff.0409021742.1f76703d@posting.google.com...
> I am looking to purchase a new notebook computer and would prefer an
> Apple system due to the superior architecture, reliability and
> service. However, I am also opposed to outsourcing and will not buy
> anything made outside the US and Canada unless it is impossible find
> otherwise. Now I haven't been able to confirm where Apple has these
> notebooks produced, but a brief search on Google hinted at Made in
> China.
>
> Is this the case? If so, I will pass on Apple and just go with a Dell
> inorder to save a few bucks.

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macusr023@yahoo.com (Mean Mr Mustard) wrote:

>I am looking to purchase a new notebook computer and would prefer an
>Apple system due to the superior architecture, reliability and
>service. However, I am also opposed to outsourcing and will not buy
>anything made outside the US and Canada unless it is impossible find
>otherwise. Now I haven't been able to confirm where Apple has these
>notebooks produced, but a brief search on Google hinted at Made in
>China.
>
>Is this the case? If so, I will pass on Apple and just go with a Dell
>inorder to save a few bucks.

Trolling, trolling, trolling on the bounding main ...

Go away, troll. The inclusion of misc.survivalisim in your
cross-posted newsgroups shows that this is not a serious inquiry,
but just a troll to start a flame war.

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Entity Mean Mr Mustard spoke thus:

> Now I haven't been able to confirm where Apple has these
> notebooks produced, but a brief search on Google hinted at Made in
> China.
No, Taiwan.
>
> Is this the case? If so, I will pass on Apple and just go with a Dell
> inorder to save a few bucks.

Hope you enjoy your new Apple laptop! Although you could still argue that
Taiwan is part of China...

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In article <ef808dff.0409021742.1f76703d@posting.google.com>, Mean Mr
Mustard <macusr023@yahoo.com> wrote:

> I am looking to purchase a new notebook computer and would prefer an
> Apple system due to the superior architecture, reliability and
> service. However, I am also opposed to outsourcing and will not buy
> anything made outside the US and Canada unless it is impossible find
> otherwise. Now I haven't been able to confirm where Apple has these
> notebooks produced, but a brief search on Google hinted at Made in
> China.
>
> Is this the case? If so, I will pass on Apple and just go with a Dell
> inorder to save a few bucks.


I'm not aware of any laptop being 'Made' in the US. 'Assembled'
maybe, though I can't find anything on Google.

Outsourcing happened a LONG time ago in the electronics market,
that's just the way it is.

High-end home audio is one of the few places where things are US
made, but even then the electronic components are largely made in Asia.

Apple designs their machines in the US, which is rare. Some of their
desktop machines up until this last year were US built. The G4 I'm
typing this on was just such a machine.


From my machine;

This is a PowerMac G4/867 (QuickSilver) manufactured in Elk Grove, CA,
USA during the week of 7|16|01.

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In article <020920042319090016%mathu/e@spymac.com>, Mathue
<mathu/e@spymac.com> wrote:

> In article <ef808dff.0409021742.1f76703d@posting.google.com>, Mean Mr
> Mustard <macusr023@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > I am looking to purchase a new notebook computer and would prefer an
> > Apple system due to the superior architecture, reliability and
> > service. However, I am also opposed to outsourcing and will not buy
> > anything made outside the US and Canada unless it is impossible find
> > otherwise. Now I haven't been able to confirm where Apple has these
> > notebooks produced, but a brief search on Google hinted at Made in
> > China.
> >
> > Is this the case? If so, I will pass on Apple and just go with a Dell
> > inorder to save a few bucks.
>
>
> I'm not aware of any laptop being 'Made' in the US. 'Assembled'
> maybe, though I can't find anything on Google.

The best quality items are now made offshore. Products actually "made
in America" are usually assembled by ex-cons, or current cons (prison
labor), Mexicans, Haitians, or, in some cases, by inner city negro
welfare cases.

When I buy a product, I look for assembly outside one of the "we be
niggaz" assembly zones. In other words, I look for quality, offshore
assembly.

None of my Macs were built by niggers.

--Tim May

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Mean Mr Mustard <macusr023@yahoo.com> wrote:

> However, I am also opposed to outsourcing and will not buy
> anything made outside the US and Canada unless it is impossible find
> otherwise.

Do you really think that you can find any product that is not at least
partly and more often fully made outside the US????

You're really a very naive American!

--
Groeten,

Antonio (Voor email, verwijder X)

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<PLONK>




Tim May coughed up:
> In article <020920042319090016%mathu/e@spymac.com>, Mathue
> <mathu/e@spymac.com> wrote:
>
>> In article <ef808dff.0409021742.1f76703d@posting.google.com>, Mean Mr
>> Mustard <macusr023@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I am looking to purchase a new notebook computer and would prefer an
>>> Apple system due to the superior architecture, reliability and
>>> service. However, I am also opposed to outsourcing and will not buy
>>> anything made outside the US and Canada unless it is impossible find
>>> otherwise. Now I haven't been able to confirm where Apple has these
>>> notebooks produced, but a brief search on Google hinted at Made in
>>> China.
>>>
>>> Is this the case? If so, I will pass on Apple and just go with a
>>> Dell inorder to save a few bucks.
>>
>>
>> I'm not aware of any laptop being 'Made' in the US. 'Assembled'
>> maybe, though I can't find anything on Google.
>
> The best quality items are now made offshore. Products actually "made
> in America" are usually assembled by ex-cons, or current cons (prison
> labor), Mexicans, Haitians, or, in some cases, by inner city negro
> welfare cases.
>
> When I buy a product, I look for assembly outside one of the "we be
> niggaz" assembly zones. In other words, I look for quality, offshore
> assembly.
>
> None of my Macs were built by niggers.
>
> --Tim May

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In misc.survivalism Mean Mr Mustard <macusr023@yahoo.com> wrote:
> I am looking to purchase a new notebook computer and would prefer an
> Apple system due to the superior architecture, reliability and

You will have to search really, really, really hard to find any
item of electronics with components solely from the USA.
Not only things like semiconductors are mostly made in asia, but
LCD panels, and many passive components.
To such an extent that I would be astounded if any laptop available
in the US is not built with a sizable fraction of imported components.
I would be utterly astonished if someone had gone to the herculean
lengths needed to US source everything, as, for example, AIUI, the US
does not really make notebook LCDs at the moment.

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On 2 Sep 2004 18:42:38 -0700, macusr023@yahoo.com (Mean Mr Mustard)
wrote:

>I am looking to purchase a new notebook computer and would prefer an
>Apple system due to the superior architecture, reliability and
>service. However, I am also opposed to outsourcing and will not buy
>anything made outside the US and Canada unless it is impossible find
>otherwise. Now I haven't been able to confirm where Apple has these
>notebooks produced, but a brief search on Google hinted at Made in
>China.
>
>Is this the case? If so, I will pass on Apple and just go with a Dell
>inorder to save a few bucks.

I'll bet Taiwan. I do know that no LCD displays for laptops are made
in the USA, so any brand is at least partly offshore. Most of the
chips will be offshore too. What's left is small potatos.

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In article <ef808dff.0409021742.1f76703d@posting.google.com>,
macusr023@yahoo.com (Mean Mr Mustard) wrote:

> I am looking to purchase a new notebook computer and would prefer an
> Apple system due to the superior architecture, reliability and
> service. However, I am also opposed to outsourcing and will not buy
> anything made outside the US and Canada unless it is impossible find
> otherwise. Now I haven't been able to confirm where Apple has these
> notebooks produced, but a brief search on Google hinted at Made in
> China.
>
> Is this the case? If so, I will pass on Apple and just go with a Dell
> inorder to save a few bucks.

OK, so politics is more important to you than quality is.

--
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In article <020920042344574248%timcmay@removethis.got.net>,
Tim May <timcmay@removethis.got.net> wrote:

> None of my Macs were built by niggers.

Of course not; you didn't make them. If you had made them, it would
have been a different matter.

But blacks did work on the design of the hardware and the production of
the operating system, utilities, and application software of your Macs.

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In article <020920042344574248%timcmay@removethis.got.net>,
Tim May <timcmay@removethis.got.net> wrote:

> The best quality items are now made offshore. Products actually "made
> in America" are usually assembled by ex-cons, or current cons (prison
> labor), Mexicans, Haitians, or, in some cases, by inner city negro
> welfare cases.
>
> When I buy a product, I look for assembly outside one of the "we be
> niggaz" assembly zones. In other words, I look for quality, offshore
> assembly.
>
> None of my Macs were built by niggers.

Do you get away with that in the US?
Your language and thinking could get you into trouble over here.

Marc

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Thomas G. Marshall wrote:

> <PLONK>

Doing so was a good idea.

Saying so is debatable.

Reposting the garbage on all four newsgroups was a bad idea.


--
Wes Groleau
"Two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity.
But I'm not so sure about the universe."
-- Albert Einstein

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Marc Heusser wrote:
<Post by Tim May deleted.>
>
> Do you get away with that in the US?
> Your language and thinking could get you into trouble over here.
>
> Marc
>
A friend of mine had a saying I liked: "Democracy means having to put up
with things that really piss you off."

Seems to me like that philosophy kind of applies here.

Or to use a phrase attributed to Voltaire, "I disapprove of what you
say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it."

Bob Pownall

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Tim May <timcmay@removethis.got.net> wrote:


> None of my Macs were built by niggers.

I can't believe I'm reading this in 2004. Sad...


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In article <1gjlp05.1pjcn3nzlnljqN%deromax@hotmail.com>,
deromax@hotmail.com (Eric Desrochers) wrote:

> > None of my Macs were built by niggers.
>
> I can't believe I'm reading this in 2004. Sad...

That's mild to what you can find on the net and on some newsgroups.

If you have a strong stomach, check out <http://www.stormfront.org> and
<http://www.godhatesfags.com>.

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