Longbow vs Crossbow which is better?

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Greetings All,

I have these items:

Longbow of Extra Might (x3) (+11,+17) (+1)

Heavy Crossbow of Extra Might (x4) (+5,+20) (+1)

They are both the same type, I have read that HVY CB is suppose to be
the best one is this true?

Just asking....

Thanks for the help!

Paul C. Heisner

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On Wed, 15 Jun 2005, Paul & Victoria Heisner wrote:

> Longbow of Extra Might (x3) (+11,+17) (+1)
>
> Heavy Crossbow of Extra Might (x4) (+5,+20) (+1)
>
> They are both the same type, I have read that HVY CB is suppose to be
> the best one is this true?

Yes, just look at the total multiplier, plus in this case the crossbow has a
higher todam anyway, you will of course want to enchant up the to-hit.

Bolts also used to be less likely to break than arrows, but is has been a
few years since I played.


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On 2005-06-15 23:28:22, =?ISO-8859-15?Q?Timo_Pietilä?=
<timo.pietila@helsinki.fi> wrote:

> Cliff Stamp wrote:
> > On Wed, 15 Jun 2005, Paul & Victoria Heisner wrote:
> >
> >> Longbow of Extra Might (x3) (+11,+17) (+1)
> >>
> >> Heavy Crossbow of Extra Might (x4) (+5,+20) (+1)
>
> This is better. Multiplier is x5 while LBow has only x4 and to_dam is
> greater too.
>
> > Bolts also used to be less likely to break than arrows, but is has been a
> > few years since I played.
>
> + normal bolts are 1d5 while arrows are 1d4.
>
> Timo Pietilä

Of course, the heavy crossbow is a lot heavier. Depending on your STR, the
difference in weight can be a major annoyance.

Rangers of a certain level get an extra shot with bows, which you would be miss
out on with a crossbow. Not a concern if you're playing a different class,
though.

It has never felt right to me that you can fire a crossbow every turn. You must
be winching like crazy!

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In article <d8qbhi$1mci$1@news.vol.cz>, topazg <graham@blessyou.co.uk> wrote:
(snip)
>> It has never felt right to me that you can fire a crossbow every turn. You
> must
>> be winching like crazy!
>>
>On the other hand, it isn't vastly less likely than 6 swings of a two-handed
>sword per turn :-)

Anyone that belieevs the standard rpg version of two handed swords being
slow, needs to be on the receiving end of one.

They are quicker than a single hander



Bruce


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On Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:54:07 +0000 (UTC), awldune
<awldune@hotmail.com> wrote:

>It has never felt right to me that you can fire a crossbow every turn. You must
>be winching like crazy!

Depends on how long a turn is and what kind of crossbow it is. Given a
ten second round and an offensive, battlefield crossbow (not the
really heavy, take as long as you need to reload, kind you might use
from behind fortifications), one/round is just about right. Why you
can't get off two bowshots or sling shots in that time does become a
question.

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awldune wrote:
> Of course, the heavy crossbow is a lot heavier. Depending on your STR, the
> difference in weight can be a major annoyance.
>
> Rangers of a certain level get an extra shot with bows, which you would be miss
> out on with a crossbow. Not a concern if you're playing a different class,
> though.
>
> It has never felt right to me that you can fire a crossbow every turn. You must
> be winching like crazy!

I think I once read shooting a crossbow takes more energy, so in the
end while you can shoot one every of your turns, the monsters get more
turns relative to you. But I can't find it anymore. Odd.

Lars T.

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Lars.Traeger@epost.de wrote:

> I think I once read shooting a crossbow takes more energy, so in the
> end while you can shoot one every of your turns, the monsters get more
> turns relative to you. But I can't find it anymore. Odd.

Only in some variants like zangband and IIRC sangband. In vanilla xbow
is just as fast as bow.

Timo Pietilä