Your response to our article on redesigning the Psion 5mx was overwhelming: over 100 e-mails and 100 pages of Forum discussions. Tiago Pascoal has distilled your input and, along with his own thoughts and those of our staff, he discusses the components to be used to build the Psion 20xx.

To be really ultra portable device it really should have 3G connectivity and maby little webcam or something like that to provide "real" 3G status. OR why not go for 4G since it's already behind the corner.

I love the design points you summarized here. If the 20xx had even half the features with the famous formfactor, many PDA/smartphone folks would rethink their premium offerings.

That is what this rig would be is a premium. I think that's the angle M$FT is taking with UMPC. Even Sony's redone UX series is very much premium grade stuff.

So to price this puppy from $600 to $1000 is a fair offering for what you'd get. Remember we're not talking about a full PC but an highly functional extension with the same OS to allow ease of use.

I used my 5mx for meetings and in data centers for taking notes. This 20xx would replace many server support tasks my laptop does now. And since this would be my personal device, my home PC can be more beefy since I can use the 20xx for trips and connect up via RDP/SSH to home for serious stuff.

I think we will see tidbits of these design elements enter the market but with how cookie cutter all the vendors have become, truly innovative devices like the 5mx are few and far between. There will be another "killer device" but i'm not expecting it from a large corp and not anytime soon.

I'm glad I still have my unit. Keyboard is a little sticky and yes my screen blanks out every so often but I might just get it out of moth balls and fire "Poindexter" up for one last spin. I but I'll still get the ohh and ahh's....

What a missed product. One question I have is why the PDa in its current format took off. And why did the psion wade away. Maybe it was just a product before its time, that would "seduce millions" today.

How hard would it be to make?

unless the processor and ram were made pretty darn small, and the rest of the components as well, i dont see hwo one can fit everything in taht tiny package. i mean, seriously, just looking at my cpu, northbridge and graphics card core make me go how does one fit all those three chips into that case? plus all the power regulators, pcb, speakers, buttons, batteries, sound card, power supply jack, and everythign else that hasnt been mentioned (well, hard drive/flash drive/ memory) into that tiny little package?

to be honnest, i think the dockign station is a wonderful idea. but how would one connect to it? via a USB port? that would be quite something, and slightly wierd too, since i dont quite know how the whole dock's information can fit through one usb port, even 2.0, since its 480Mbitsps = 60mbps. well, im assuming it could take the tasks of the firewire, which is 400mbitsps and the ethernet connection, which is 10/100 (the 1000 standard isnt in too many routers as far as i can tell) without too much hassle...

but yeah, i would love to see this product on the shelves one day.

About the battery, if it is a lithium polymer battery, how would one buy replacements? and how would these be protected? ive seen a few of them blow up after improper charging/handling, and ive had one, poked it with a needle and it heated up prety quickly, i put it in water straight away (salt water, its a way of disposing of these "safely" )

It would be nice to see both CF and SD card slots in the psion 20xx, but the space restrictions come into play once again. However, if these slots are in, we could "upgrade" our "hard drives" later on when huge sd/cf come out.

Usb ports can probably be shared through a hub, so im guessing two would suffice if spare is tight, other usb ports could be on the docking station.

Really good ideas, there is one thing that struck me though, the mention of the space bar having to be hit dead-center because of the uni contact point. Aren't most keyboards like that? i know mine is, and there is a metal bar that makes the whole space bar go down wherever i push, so i never have to hit the dead center for it to work. perhaps a metal bar instead of three contact points?

Well, given the nature of the components I'm sure someone would make a version of linux for this even if it is designed to work with windows.

Time to start hunting a developer

If everyone wasn't so set on having an Intel processor, Via could solve all these problems and have less power as well, Via c7 ULV. Sure they're slower, but no x86 chip is as extensively designed for mobile platforms, plus it has a very integrated and low power chipset to match. Besides, how much horsepower would you need to run word, or better yet abiword (linux)? Via spent their time developing this chip for exactly this type of product, why not use it?

well, im still runing a p3 910 mhz and its by no means slow with 512 mb of pc133 ram, so as long as that via c3 performs atleast that well, the last model on that list (779) might be worth it. if not, then the intel CD2 would be much better since the max TDP is about the same as the 5 w+ models, on top of delivering the performance associated with CD2.

and its not necessarily because everybody is intent on having an intel, its simply because it seems the best suited processor for the task performance/watt wise, the best compromise.

Seems the massed intelligence of the pocketpc-hungry masses has spoken - and with good results. But one item is being forgotten - the spacebar. Since touch-typing on any keyboard so small is impossible, the spacebar should be reduced by a good half. This could result in enough space at the front corners for a couple of small Harmon Kardons. I'm not a great fan of turning this potentially great item into an MP3 player, but a few favourite albums are nice to have while you're working. Another save would come from dumping the CF slot. SD works for me.

I'm not a mac person but it struck me how well something like this could catch on if marketed by Apple. Make it white, slap on MacOS and give it to their marketers

Dunno about lithium-polymer, but you can buy lithium-ion battery packs off the shelf that fit into a battery compartment that holds two AA batteries side-by-side; I dunno if you can get one that fits into a battery compartment that holds two AAs inline, though.

i know that energizer sells "lithium" AA batteries on the shelf, these arent rechargeable though

about lithium polymer:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lithi [...] er_battery
http://www.plantraco.com/hobbies/product-lpcells.html
http://www.flightpower.co.uk/core/ [...] y_info.htm

quote from the last link:

which is why a safety circuit is needed. (IMO)

Check out the new OQO 02. That's the kind of docking station I'm talking about.

If THEY can cram all that gear inside such a small form factor, it makes sense to do the same with the 20xx.

The changes to computers now with devices like the OQO, UMPC, Samsung sph p9000 and others prove that a new Psion could be virtually a full fledged pc in your pocket and to me that is a device many could use and I would pay $900 to $2000. If it has the ability to run standad desktop software and also have some type of wireless with that great keyboard then it would warrant prices in that higher range.

The display should be color tft so that it could be readable in daylight conditions.

The processor should be something with enough power to enable fast use yet low power.

The system memory should be enough to add dozens of new programs and have additional input memory such as CF cards.

In the US it should have wifi and maybe that could be a replacable module or card as eventually 4g etc. will come here?

Battery should give it at least 3 hours continous use or better and have back up battery. The main battery should be removable for easy swaps.

The size should be 3.5 to 4" wide, about 7 to 7.5 inches long and under one inch thick.

Price would be dependant on software. If it had Vista XP, with wifi, that great keyboard, MS office and outlook and decent memory for new softwares along with the above it would be worth at least $900 and up to $2000. I would like to see it in the $900 to $1500 price range personally.