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I have finally got my system up and running! I'll post the latest pictures a
little later.
When adjusting the dish I used the manual tracking to move it back and forth
and finally got it to track on all the satellites. The later I found out
that my receiver has 24 pre-programmed satellites in it. When I select one
of the pre-programmed sats it tracks to it but it's off by just a bit and
the fine tuning is just not enough to bring it in. Should I adjust the dish
to match the pre-programmed positions or is there a way to change the
location of the pre-programmed sats?

This system was up and running perfectly just 12 miles from my location
before I became the owner. Could 12 miles (East of me) make this much
difference? (That fine tuning can't correct)

~Ben

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What receiver do you have?

Ben wrote:
> I have finally got my system up and running! I'll post the latest pictures a
> little later.
> When adjusting the dish I used the manual tracking to move it back and forth
> and finally got it to track on all the satellites. The later I found out
> that my receiver has 24 pre-programmed satellites in it. When I select one
> of the pre-programmed sats it tracks to it but it's off by just a bit and
> the fine tuning is just not enough to bring it in. Should I adjust the dish
> to match the pre-programmed positions or is there a way to change the
> location of the pre-programmed sats?
>
> This system was up and running perfectly just 12 miles from my location
> before I became the owner. Could 12 miles (East of me) make this much
> difference? (That fine tuning can't correct)
>
> ~Ben
>
>

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> I have finally got my system up and running! I'll post the latest pictures
a
> little later.
> When adjusting the dish I used the manual tracking to move it back and
forth
> and finally got it to track on all the satellites. The later I found out
> that my receiver has 24 pre-programmed satellites in it. When I select one
> of the pre-programmed sats it tracks to it but it's off by just a bit and
> the fine tuning is just not enough to bring it in. Should I adjust the
dish
> to match the pre-programmed positions or is there a way to change the
> location of the pre-programmed sats?
>
> This system was up and running perfectly just 12 miles from my location
> before I became the owner. Could 12 miles (East of me) make this much
> difference? (That fine tuning can't correct)

Hey Ben,
Refresh my memory as to which reciever you have, then I can look up the
manual on line and give you advice.

Back when some analog satellite recievers were manufactured they put a rom
chip in that had the satellites listed. As satellites came and went, the
list bacame out of date. So people would use a now non existent satellite
name to substitute as a now new unnamed satellite. This can be confusing,
but can be gotten used to. Some of the higher end recievers they made
replacement chips for to keep the satellite list up tp date, butit has some
time since I heard of anyone selling these.

Isn't this hobby great?
Bill

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"Zoyburg" <rats@attib.com> wrote in message
news:Q6DPc.69303$8_6.827@attbi_s04...
> What receiver do you have?
>
> Ben wrote:
> > I have finally got my system up and running! I'll post the latest
pictures a
> > little later.
> > When adjusting the dish I used the manual tracking to move it back and
forth
> > and finally got it to track on all the satellites. The later I found out
> > that my receiver has 24 pre-programmed satellites in it. When I select
one
> > of the pre-programmed sats it tracks to it but it's off by just a bit
and
> > the fine tuning is just not enough to bring it in. Should I adjust the
dish
> > to match the pre-programmed positions or is there a way to change the
> > location of the pre-programmed sats?
> >
> > This system was up and running perfectly just 12 miles from my location
> > before I became the owner. Could 12 miles (East of me) make this much
> > difference? (That fine tuning can't correct)
> >
> > ~Ben
> >
> >
It's an Innovation 450i
Also here's a link to my system setup completed:
www.bigdish.notlong.com

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"scram" <scram@anon.com> wrote in message news:ifDPc.41$Lj.3@fed1read03...
>
> > I have finally got my system up and running! I'll post the latest
pictures
> a
> > little later.
> > When adjusting the dish I used the manual tracking to move it back and
> forth
> > and finally got it to track on all the satellites. The later I found out
> > that my receiver has 24 pre-programmed satellites in it. When I select
one
> > of the pre-programmed sats it tracks to it but it's off by just a bit
and
> > the fine tuning is just not enough to bring it in. Should I adjust the
> dish
> > to match the pre-programmed positions or is there a way to change the
> > location of the pre-programmed sats?
> >
> > This system was up and running perfectly just 12 miles from my location
> > before I became the owner. Could 12 miles (East of me) make this much
> > difference? (That fine tuning can't correct)
>
> Hey Ben,
> Refresh my memory as to which reciever you have, then I can look up the
> manual on line and give you advice.
>
> Back when some analog satellite recievers were manufactured they put a rom
> chip in that had the satellites listed. As satellites came and went, the
> list bacame out of date. So people would use a now non existent satellite
> name to substitute as a now new unnamed satellite. This can be confusing,
> but can be gotten used to. Some of the higher end recievers they made
> replacement chips for to keep the satellite list up tp date, butit has
some
> time since I heard of anyone selling these.
>
> Isn't this hobby great?
> Bill
>
>
It's an Innovation 450i
Also here's a link to my system setup completed:
www.bigdish.notlong.com

~Ben

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> > > I have finally got my system up and running! I'll post the latest
> pictures
> > a
> > > little later.
> > > When adjusting the dish I used the manual tracking to move it back and
> > forth
> > > and finally got it to track on all the satellites. The later I found
out
> > > that my receiver has 24 pre-programmed satellites in it. When I select
> one
> > > of the pre-programmed sats it tracks to it but it's off by just a bit
> and
> > > the fine tuning is just not enough to bring it in. Should I adjust the
> > dish
> > > to match the pre-programmed positions or is there a way to change the
> > > location of the pre-programmed sats?
> > >
> > > This system was up and running perfectly just 12 miles from my
location
> > > before I became the owner. Could 12 miles (East of me) make this much
> > > difference? (That fine tuning can't correct)
> >
> > Hey Ben,
> > Refresh my memory as to which reciever you have, then I can look up the
> > manual on line and give you advice.
> >
> > Back when some analog satellite recievers were manufactured they put a
rom
> > chip in that had the satellites listed. As satellites came and went, the
> > list bacame out of date. So people would use a now non existent
satellite
> > name to substitute as a now new unnamed satellite. This can be
confusing,
> > but can be gotten used to. Some of the higher end recievers they made
> > replacement chips for to keep the satellite list up tp date, butit has
> some
> > time since I heard of anyone selling these.
> >
> > Isn't this hobby great?
> > Bill
> >
> >
> It's an Innovation 450i
> Also here's a link to my system setup completed:
> www.bigdish.notlong.com

If you aren't sure how to program the reciever, I found this
http://www.orbitsat.com/Support/Manuals/450I.asp

I don't know what else to advise
Bill

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Thanks, That's a good link.
I'm still not sure how I know what satellite I'm looking at. I select a
satellite from the list and the dish moves there. Then I tune in a channel,
but I can't fine an info button or any way to see what the actual satellite
I'm looking at is. If my alignment is off it might not be receiving what it
says it is. If you know what I mean.
~Ben

"scram" <scram@anon.com> wrote in message news:qSFPc.61$Lj.51@fed1read03...
>
> > > > I have finally got my system up and running! I'll post the latest
> > pictures
> > > a
> > > > little later.
> > > > When adjusting the dish I used the manual tracking to move it back
and
> > > forth
> > > > and finally got it to track on all the satellites. The later I found
> out
> > > > that my receiver has 24 pre-programmed satellites in it. When I
select
> > one
> > > > of the pre-programmed sats it tracks to it but it's off by just a
bit
> > and
> > > > the fine tuning is just not enough to bring it in. Should I adjust
the
> > > dish
> > > > to match the pre-programmed positions or is there a way to change
the
> > > > location of the pre-programmed sats?
> > > >
> > > > This system was up and running perfectly just 12 miles from my
> location
> > > > before I became the owner. Could 12 miles (East of me) make this
much
> > > > difference? (That fine tuning can't correct)
> > >
> > > Hey Ben,
> > > Refresh my memory as to which reciever you have, then I can look up
the
> > > manual on line and give you advice.
> > >
> > > Back when some analog satellite recievers were manufactured they put a
> rom
> > > chip in that had the satellites listed. As satellites came and went,
the
> > > list bacame out of date. So people would use a now non existent
> satellite
> > > name to substitute as a now new unnamed satellite. This can be
> confusing,
> > > but can be gotten used to. Some of the higher end recievers they made
> > > replacement chips for to keep the satellite list up tp date, butit has
> > some
> > > time since I heard of anyone selling these.
> > >
> > > Isn't this hobby great?
> > > Bill
> > >
> > >
> > It's an Innovation 450i
> > Also here's a link to my system setup completed:
> > www.bigdish.notlong.com
>
> If you aren't sure how to program the reciever, I found this
> http://www.orbitsat.com/Support/Manuals/450I.asp
>
> I don't know what else to advise
> Bill
>
>

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>This system was up and running perfectly just 12 miles from my
>location
>> > > before I became the owner. Could 12 miles (East of me) make this much
>> > > difference? (That fine tuning can't correct)

From what I understood in geography class in elementary school, I remember that
if you go about 15 miles in one direction, say longtitudal, that would make you
1 degree over as far as longitudal degrees. I'm not a sailor or pilot, but I do
remember something like that. 1 degree off on the angle of the dish would
probably throw you off track of the arc that you would lose satellite signals.
It's quite possible. Find out your present latitude by calling the control
tower of the nearest airport and they should be able to tell you where you are
at or use GPS.

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Hi,

I'm interested in the picture above your caption "Here's my LNB and my
Feedhorn". The one on the right. How did you get the cable up to the LNBs?
Is it slid between the feedhorn rim and the black plastic it attaches to, or
did you cut a hole in the black plastic to let it through?

Also, do you plan to put any kind of outlet where the cable enters your
home, or just leave it as shown?

One more--what about "grounding" your antenna? And the cable grounding?

Greg

"scram" <scram@anon.com> wrote in message news:qSFPc.61$Lj.51@fed1read03...
>
> > > > I have finally got my system up and running! I'll post the latest
> > pictures
> > > a
> > > > little later.
> > > > When adjusting the dish I used the manual tracking to move it back
and
> > > forth
> > > > and finally got it to track on all the satellites. The later I found
> out
> > > > that my receiver has 24 pre-programmed satellites in it. When I
select
> > one
> > > > of the pre-programmed sats it tracks to it but it's off by just a
bit
> > and
> > > > the fine tuning is just not enough to bring it in. Should I adjust
the
> > > dish
> > > > to match the pre-programmed positions or is there a way to change
the
> > > > location of the pre-programmed sats?
> > > >
> > > > This system was up and running perfectly just 12 miles from my
> location
> > > > before I became the owner. Could 12 miles (East of me) make this
much
> > > > difference? (That fine tuning can't correct)
> > >
> > > Hey Ben,
> > > Refresh my memory as to which reciever you have, then I can look up
the
> > > manual on line and give you advice.
> > >
> > > Back when some analog satellite recievers were manufactured they put a
> rom
> > > chip in that had the satellites listed. As satellites came and went,
the
> > > list bacame out of date. So people would use a now non existent
> satellite
> > > name to substitute as a now new unnamed satellite. This can be
> confusing,
> > > but can be gotten used to. Some of the higher end recievers they made
> > > replacement chips for to keep the satellite list up tp date, butit has
> > some
> > > time since I heard of anyone selling these.
> > >
> > > Isn't this hobby great?
> > > Bill
> > >
> > >
> > It's an Innovation 450i
> > Also here's a link to my system setup completed:
> > www.bigdish.notlong.com
>
> If you aren't sure how to program the reciever, I found this
> http://www.orbitsat.com/Support/Manuals/450I.asp
>
> I don't know what else to advise
> Bill
>
>

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Hi Greg,
The cable at the feedhorn is indeed squished between the feedhorn rim and
the plastic ring the cone attaches too. It kind of bows the plastic up at
that point but that's how they had it when I picked up the unit and I could
see no other way.

I mounted a drywall box (plastic) in my living room where the cable comes
out. I had to cut a big hole in the back of it for the cable to fit through
and I'm now looking for some kind of appropriate plate to put on the front.

~Ben

"Greg O." <ozbirn@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:B2NPc.3829$Oe5.3753@newssvr15.news.prodigy.com...
> Hi,
>
> I'm interested in the picture above your caption "Here's my LNB and my
> Feedhorn". The one on the right. How did you get the cable up to the
LNBs?
> Is it slid between the feedhorn rim and the black plastic it attaches to,
or
> did you cut a hole in the black plastic to let it through?
>
> Also, do you plan to put any kind of outlet where the cable enters your
> home, or just leave it as shown?
>
> One more--what about "grounding" your antenna? And the cable
grounding?
>
> Greg
>
> "scram" <scram@anon.com> wrote in message
news:qSFPc.61$Lj.51@fed1read03...
> >
> > > > > I have finally got my system up and running! I'll post the latest
> > > pictures
> > > > a
> > > > > little later.
> > > > > When adjusting the dish I used the manual tracking to move it back
> and
> > > > forth
> > > > > and finally got it to track on all the satellites. The later I
found
> > out
> > > > > that my receiver has 24 pre-programmed satellites in it. When I
> select
> > > one
> > > > > of the pre-programmed sats it tracks to it but it's off by just a
> bit
> > > and
> > > > > the fine tuning is just not enough to bring it in. Should I adjust
> the
> > > > dish
> > > > > to match the pre-programmed positions or is there a way to change
> the
> > > > > location of the pre-programmed sats?
> > > > >
> > > > > This system was up and running perfectly just 12 miles from my
> > location
> > > > > before I became the owner. Could 12 miles (East of me) make this
> much
> > > > > difference? (That fine tuning can't correct)
> > > >
> > > > Hey Ben,
> > > > Refresh my memory as to which reciever you have, then I can look up
> the
> > > > manual on line and give you advice.
> > > >
> > > > Back when some analog satellite recievers were manufactured they put
a
> > rom
> > > > chip in that had the satellites listed. As satellites came and went,
> the
> > > > list bacame out of date. So people would use a now non existent
> > satellite
> > > > name to substitute as a now new unnamed satellite. This can be
> > confusing,
> > > > but can be gotten used to. Some of the higher end recievers they
made
> > > > replacement chips for to keep the satellite list up tp date, butit
has
> > > some
> > > > time since I heard of anyone selling these.
> > > >
> > > > Isn't this hobby great?
> > > > Bill
> > > >
> > > >
> > > It's an Innovation 450i
> > > Also here's a link to my system setup completed:
> > > www.bigdish.notlong.com
> >
> > If you aren't sure how to program the reciever, I found this
> > http://www.orbitsat.com/Support/Manuals/450I.asp
> >
> > I don't know what else to advise
> > Bill
> >
> >
>
>

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You have to look in Lyngsat
http://lyngsat.com/america.shtml
look for an analog channel in the clear, once you can identify it you know
which satellite you are looking at.

It used to be much easier before channels started going digital.

Bill

> Thanks, That's a good link.
> I'm still not sure how I know what satellite I'm looking at. I select a
> satellite from the list and the dish moves there. Then I tune in a
channel,
> but I can't fine an info button or any way to see what the actual
satellite
> I'm looking at is. If my alignment is off it might not be receiving what
it
> says it is. If you know what I mean.
> ~Ben

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On Tue, 03 Aug 2004 06:14:01 GMT, "Ben" <none@none.moc> wrote:

>Thanks, That's a good link.
>I'm still not sure how I know what satellite I'm looking at. I select a
>satellite from the list and the dish moves there. Then I tune in a channel,
>but I can't fine an info button or any way to see what the actual satellite
>I'm looking at is. If my alignment is off it might not be receiving what it
>says it is. If you know what I mean.
>~Ben
>

You see what channels are there and compare at lyngsat.

>"scram" <scram@anon.com> wrote in message news:qSFPc.61$Lj.51@fed1read03...
>>
>> > > > I have finally got my system up and running! I'll post the latest
>> > pictures
>> > > a
>> > > > little later.
>> > > > When adjusting the dish I used the manual tracking to move it back
>and
>> > > forth
>> > > > and finally got it to track on all the satellites. The later I found
>> out
>> > > > that my receiver has 24 pre-programmed satellites in it. When I
>select
>> > one
>> > > > of the pre-programmed sats it tracks to it but it's off by just a
>bit
>> > and
>> > > > the fine tuning is just not enough to bring it in. Should I adjust
>the
>> > > dish
>> > > > to match the pre-programmed positions or is there a way to change
>the
>> > > > location of the pre-programmed sats?
>> > > >
>> > > > This system was up and running perfectly just 12 miles from my
>> location
>> > > > before I became the owner. Could 12 miles (East of me) make this
>much
>> > > > difference? (That fine tuning can't correct)
>> > >
>> > > Hey Ben,
>> > > Refresh my memory as to which reciever you have, then I can look up
>the
>> > > manual on line and give you advice.
>> > >
>> > > Back when some analog satellite recievers were manufactured they put a
>> rom
>> > > chip in that had the satellites listed. As satellites came and went,
>the
>> > > list bacame out of date. So people would use a now non existent
>> satellite
>> > > name to substitute as a now new unnamed satellite. This can be
>> confusing,
>> > > but can be gotten used to. Some of the higher end recievers they made
>> > > replacement chips for to keep the satellite list up tp date, butit has
>> > some
>> > > time since I heard of anyone selling these.
>> > >
>> > > Isn't this hobby great?
>> > > Bill
>> > >
>> > >
>> > It's an Innovation 450i
>> > Also here's a link to my system setup completed:
>> > www.bigdish.notlong.com
>>
>> If you aren't sure how to program the reciever, I found this
>> http://www.orbitsat.com/Support/Manuals/450I.asp
>>
>> I don't know what else to advise
>> Bill
>>
>>
>

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And his other question was:

IS the dish grounded?

Do you have a ground block where the cable enters the house(some use
them,some don't)?

MY question:

Does the feedhorn have a cover?
Does it also have a throat cover?

the former protects against inclement weather,the latter keeps those
wasps,n' spiders out which mess up your signal!

"Ben" <none@none.moc> wrote in message
news:lnOPc.18192$Je5.1260@nwrddc03.gnilink.net...
> Hi Greg,
> The cable at the feedhorn is indeed squished between the feedhorn rim and
> the plastic ring the cone attaches too. It kind of bows the plastic up at
> that point but that's how they had it when I picked up the unit and I
could
> see no other way.
>
> I mounted a drywall box (plastic) in my living room where the cable comes
> out. I had to cut a big hole in the back of it for the cable to fit
through
> and I'm now looking for some kind of appropriate plate to put on the
front.
>
> ~Ben
>
> "Greg O." <ozbirn@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:B2NPc.3829$Oe5.3753@newssvr15.news.prodigy.com...
> > Hi,
> >
> > I'm interested in the picture above your caption "Here's my LNB and
my
> > Feedhorn". The one on the right. How did you get the cable up to the
> LNBs?
> > Is it slid between the feedhorn rim and the black plastic it attaches
to,
> or
> > did you cut a hole in the black plastic to let it through?
> >
> > Also, do you plan to put any kind of outlet where the cable enters
your
> > home, or just leave it as shown?
> >
> > One more--what about "grounding" your antenna? And the cable
> grounding?
> >
> > Greg
> >
> > "scram" <scram@anon.com> wrote in message
> news:qSFPc.61$Lj.51@fed1read03...
> > >
> > > > > > I have finally got my system up and running! I'll post the
latest
> > > > pictures
> > > > > a
> &g