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I want to change the battery on the DSR922 mainboard. Does this have the
same issue as the VC II board where it could wipe out the unit ID? If so,
has anyone come up with a procedure that will replace the DSR922 battery
without loss of data?

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On Thu, 03 Jun 2004 21:32:03 GMT, johnny@n0sq.net wrote:

>I want to change the battery on the DSR922 mainboard. Does this have the
>same issue as the VC II board where it could wipe out the unit ID? If so,
>has anyone come up with a procedure that will replace the DSR922 battery
>without loss of data?
>

Yes, it holds critical data. Use the same procedure for the VCII
battery replacement.

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On Thu, 03 Jun 2004 21:32:09 -0400, Gary Tait
<classicsat@yahoo.cominvalid> wrote:

|On Thu, 03 Jun 2004 21:32:03 GMT, johnny@n0sq.net wrote:
|
|>I want to change the battery on the DSR922 mainboard. Does this have the
|>same issue as the VC II board where it could wipe out the unit ID? If so,
|>has anyone come up with a procedure that will replace the DSR922 battery
|>without loss of data?
|>
|
|Yes, it holds critical data. Use the same procedure for the VCII
|battery replacement.

What might that be? I lost my first VCII due to battery failure and
bought a used one. The used one looks newer, but I'm sure its battery
isn't very long for this world either. Do we get a break if we send
it in for battery replacement before it fails? I'm suspecting not, so
self replacement for those who can seems a good alternative. I've not
even considered my 922 yet, but it too will eventually need a new bat.
Suggestions would be appreciated.

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I have a VCII+ from 1990 and the battery still reads 3.62v

<bitbucket@linkline.com> wrote in message
news:59f2c058ongdk06i4mbomuor8kl2c8fqdi@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 03 Jun 2004 21:32:09 -0400, Gary Tait
> <classicsat@yahoo.cominvalid> wrote:
>
> |On Thu, 03 Jun 2004 21:32:03 GMT, johnny@n0sq.net wrote:
> |
> |>I want to change the battery on the DSR922 mainboard. Does this have the
> |>same issue as the VC II board where it could wipe out the unit ID? If
so,
> |>has anyone come up with a procedure that will replace the DSR922 battery
> |>without loss of data?
> |>
> |
> |Yes, it holds critical data. Use the same procedure for the VCII
> |battery replacement.
>
> What might that be? I lost my first VCII due to battery failure and
> bought a used one. The used one looks newer, but I'm sure its battery
> isn't very long for this world either. Do we get a break if we send
> it in for battery replacement before it fails? I'm suspecting not, so
> self replacement for those who can seems a good alternative. I've not
> even considered my 922 yet, but it too will eventually need a new bat.
> Suggestions would be appreciated.

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My VC II+ battery was dated May 1990 and it was slightly over 3.7V. But, I
decided to replace it anyway. Getting the case open was the most difficult
part. The new battery is socketed in case VideoCipher survives for another
20 years. Anyway, I'm good to go for another 10 years?

JustMe wrote:

> I have a VCII+ from 1990 and the battery still reads 3.62v
>
> <bitbucket@linkline.com> wrote in message
> news:59f2c058ongdk06i4mbomuor8kl2c8fqdi@4ax.com...
>> On Thu, 03 Jun 2004 21:32:09 -0400, Gary Tait
>> <classicsat@yahoo.cominvalid> wrote:
>>
>> |On Thu, 03 Jun 2004 21:32:03 GMT, johnny@n0sq.net wrote:
>> |
>> |>I want to change the battery on the DSR922 mainboard. Does this have
>> |>the same issue as the VC II board where it could wipe out the unit ID?
>> |>If
> so,
>> |>has anyone come up with a procedure that will replace the DSR922
>> |>battery without loss of data?
>> |>
>> |
>> |Yes, it holds critical data. Use the same procedure for the VCII
>> |battery replacement.
>>
>> What might that be? I lost my first VCII due to battery failure and
>> bought a used one. The used one looks newer, but I'm sure its battery
>> isn't very long for this world either. Do we get a break if we send
>> it in for battery replacement before it fails? I'm suspecting not, so
>> self replacement for those who can seems a good alternative. I've not
>> even considered my 922 yet, but it too will eventually need a new bat.
>> Suggestions would be appreciated.

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I'll be surprised if there are still any vc2+ and analog signals on C band
in 10 yrs!

<johnny@n0sq.net> wrote in message
news6rwc.2673$uX2.2193@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net...
> My VC II+ battery was dated May 1990 and it was slightly over 3.7V. But, I
> decided to replace it anyway. Getting the case open was the most difficult
> part. The new battery is socketed in case VideoCipher survives for another
> 20 years. Anyway, I'm good to go for another 10 years?
>
> JustMe wrote:
>
> > I have a VCII+ from 1990 and the battery still reads 3.62v
> >
> > <bitbucket@linkline.com> wrote in message
> > news:59f2c058ongdk06i4mbomuor8kl2c8fqdi@4ax.com...
> >> On Thu, 03 Jun 2004 21:32:09 -0400, Gary Tait
> >> <classicsat@yahoo.cominvalid> wrote:
> >>
> >> |On Thu, 03 Jun 2004 21:32:03 GMT, johnny@n0sq.net wrote:
> >> |
> >> |>I want to change the battery on the DSR922 mainboard. Does this have
> >> |>the same issue as the VC II board where it could wipe out the unit
ID?
> >> |>If
> > so,
> >> |>has anyone come up with a procedure that will replace the DSR922
> >> |>battery without loss of data?
> >> |>
> >> |
> >> |Yes, it holds critical data. Use the same procedure for the VCII
> >> |battery replacement.
> >>
> >> What might that be? I lost my first VCII due to battery failure and
> >> bought a used one. The used one looks newer, but I'm sure its battery
> >> isn't very long for this world either. Do we get a break if we send
> >> it in for battery replacement before it fails? I'm suspecting not, so
> >> self replacement for those who can seems a good alternative. I've not
> >> even considered my 922 yet, but it too will eventually need a new bat.
> >> Suggestions would be appreciated.
>


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Well I have a quick question about the 4DTV. If you need a VC2+ ID number
before you can authorize a 4DTV. What are you going to do when most of the
VC2's die?
Malcom
"Valdivar" <rebelleader68@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:lXFwc.3827$sS2.87988@news20.bellglobal.com...
> I'll be surprised if there are still any vc2+ and analog signals on C band
> in 10 yrs!
>
> <johnny@n0sq.net> wrote in message
> news6rwc.2673$uX2.2193@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net...
> > My VC II+ battery was dated May 1990 and it was slightly over 3.7V. But,
I
> > decided to replace it anyway. Getting the case open was the most
difficult
> > part. The new battery is socketed in case VideoCipher survives for
another
> > 20 years. Anyway, I'm good to go for another 10 years?
> >
> > JustMe wrote:
> >
> > > I have a VCII+ from 1990 and the battery still reads 3.62v
> > >
> > > <bitbucket@linkline.com> wrote in message
> > > news:59f2c058ongdk06i4mbomuor8kl2c8fqdi@4ax.com...
> > >> On Thu, 03 Jun 2004 21:32:09 -0400, Gary Tait
> > >> <classicsat@yahoo.cominvalid> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> |On Thu, 03 Jun 2004 21:32:03 GMT, johnny@n0sq.net wrote:
> > >> |
> > >> |>I want to change the battery on the DSR922 mainboard. Does this
have
> > >> |>the same issue as the VC II board where it could wipe out the unit
> ID?
> > >> |>If
> > > so,
> > >> |>has anyone come up with a procedure that will replace the DSR922
> > >> |>battery without loss of data?
> > >> |>
> > >> |
> > >> |Yes, it holds critical data. Use the same procedure for the VCII
> > >> |battery replacement.
> > >>
> > >> What might that be? I lost my first VCII due to battery failure and
> > >> bought a used one. The used one looks newer, but I'm sure its
battery
> > >> isn't very long for this world either. Do we get a break if we send
> > >> it in for battery replacement before it fails? I'm suspecting not,
so
> > >> self replacement for those who can seems a good alternative. I've
not
> > >> even considered my 922 yet, but it too will eventually need a new
bat.
> > >> Suggestions would be appreciated.
> >
>
>
> ---
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> Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).
> Version: 6.0.690 / Virus Database: 451 - Release Date: 5/22/2004
>
>

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Write down your VC2 ID and save it someplace. You only need the
number, you don't need the VC2 module. Also possibly by then you
may not need a VC2 number. I don't think that SRL requires a VC ID
for some of their programming.

The main reason the other providers want it is that their billing system
is based on that number. When 4DTV came out the digital subs were
tied directly to the analog subs. Recreating their system was not necessary.
Possibly as things change they also may change and drop that requirement.


"Malcom Gillette" <82muchmgillette1@cox.net> wrote in message
news:kPRwc.7372$1L4.3382@okepread02...
| Well I have a quick question about the 4DTV. If you need a VC2+ ID number
| before you can authorize a 4DTV. What are you going to do when most of the
| VC2's die?
| Malcom
| "Valdivar" <rebelleader68@hotmail.com> wrote in message
| news:lXFwc.3827$sS2.87988@news20.bellglobal.com...
| > I'll be surprised if there are still any vc2+ and analog signals on C band
| > in 10 yrs!
| >
| > <johnny@n0sq.net> wrote in message
| > news6rwc.2673$uX2.2193@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net...
| > > My VC II+ battery was dated May 1990 and it was slightly over 3.7V. But,
| I
| > > decided to replace it anyway. Getting the case open was the most
| difficult
| > > part. The new battery is socketed in case VideoCipher survives for
| another
| > > 20 years. Anyway, I'm good to go for another 10 years?
| > >
| > > JustMe wrote:
| > >
| > > > I have a VCII+ from 1990 and the battery still reads 3.62v
| > > >
| > > > <bitbucket@linkline.com> wrote in message
| > > > news:59f2c058ongdk06i4mbomuor8kl2c8fqdi@4ax.com...
| > > >> On Thu, 03 Jun 2004 21:32:09 -0400, Gary Tait
| > > >> <classicsat@yahoo.cominvalid> wrote:
| > > >>
| > > >> |On Thu, 03 Jun 2004 21:32:03 GMT, johnny@n0sq.net wrote:
| > > >> |
| > > >> |>I want to change the battery on the DSR922 mainboard. Does this
| have
| > > >> |>the same issue as the VC II board where it could wipe out the unit
| > ID?
| > > >> |>If
| > > > so,
| > > >> |>has anyone come up with a procedure that will replace the DSR922
| > > >> |>battery without loss of data?
| > > >> |>
| > > >> |
| > > >> |Yes, it holds critical data. Use the same procedure for the VCII
| > > >> |battery replacement.
| > > >>
| > > >> What might that be? I lost my first VCII due to battery failure and
| > > >> bought a used one. The used one looks newer, but I'm sure its
| battery
| > > >> isn't very long for this world either. Do we get a break if we send
| > > >> it in for battery replacement before it fails? I'm suspecting not,
| so
| > > >> self replacement for those who can seems a good alternative. I've
| not
| > > >> even considered my 922 yet, but it too will eventually need a new
| bat.
| > > >> Suggestions would be appreciated.
| > >
| >
| >
| > ---
| > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.
| > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).
| > Version: 6.0.690 / Virus Database: 451 - Release Date: 5/22/2004
| >
| >
|
|

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The VC2+ system came first....the VC2+ number is only associated with
your VC2+ module which inserts in the back of the 4DTV unit.It may come
with one when you purchase it.However,there is a SEPARATE DIGITAL UNIT
ID associated with the Digicipher (digital) channels of the 4DTV.It is
accessed by touching OPTIONS 6,5,5 on line A and located
there.Presumably,if the day should come and the VC2+ module should
become useless and the 4DTV becomes a totally digital receiver,they most
likely would ask for your Digicipher UID.
But,I think that day is still a little far off yet.

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I know the VC came 1st,

What I said it that the billing system used by the providers was centered on
the VC unit ID. This is why they needed the VC ID in conjunction with the
4DTV ID.

I also know how to find my DCII Unit ID. I have known how to do this
since circa 1996.


"SAC 441" <SAC441@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:1791-40C3F4A1-32@storefull-3257.bay.webtv.net...
| The VC2+ system came first....the VC2+ number is only associated with
| your VC2+ module which inserts in the back of the 4DTV unit.It may come
| with one when you purchase it.However,there is a SEPARATE DIGITAL UNIT
| ID associated with the Digicipher (digital) channels of the 4DTV.It is
| accessed by touching OPTIONS 6,5,5 on line A and located
| there.Presumably,if the day should come and the VC2+ module should
| become useless and the 4DTV becomes a totally digital receiver,they most
| likely would ask for your Digicipher UID.
| But,I think that day is still a little far off yet.
|

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Sorry

Make that 1997 instead of 96


"SAC 441" <SAC441@webtv.net> wrote in message
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| The VC2+ system came first....the VC2+ number is only associated with
| your VC2+ module which inserts in the back of the 4DTV unit.It may come

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So let me see if I got this right. I could use a brain dead VC2 unit to
subscribe the 4DTV. As long as I had written down the units ID# before its
batteries had died.
Malcom
"DRLev" <fake,@ddress.net> wrote in message
news:u0Swc.40349$4x2.4562@fe2.texas.rr.com...
> Write down your VC2 ID and save it someplace. You only need the
> number, you don't need the VC2 module. Also possibly by then you
> may not need a VC2 number. I don't think that SRL requires a VC ID
> for some of their programming.
>
> The main reason the other providers want it is that their billing system
> is based on that number. When 4DTV came out the digital subs were
> tied directly to the analog subs. Recreating their system was not
necessary.
> Possibly as things change they also may change and drop that requirement.
>
>
> "Malcom Gillette" <82muchmgillette1@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:kPRwc.7372$1L4.3382@okepread02...
> | Well I have a quick question about the 4DTV. If you need a VC2+ ID
number
> | before you can authorize a 4DTV. What are you going to do when most of
the
> | VC2's die?
> | Malcom
> | "Valdivar" <rebelleader68@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> | news:lXFwc.3827$sS2.87988@news20.bellglobal.com...
> | > I'll be surprised if there are still any vc2+ and analog signals on C
band
> | > in 10 yrs!
> | >
> | > <johnny@n0sq.net> wrote in message
> | > news6rwc.2673$uX2.2193@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net...
> | > > My VC II+ battery was dated May 1990 and it was slightly over 3.7V.
But,
> | I
> | > > decided to replace it anyway. Getting the case open was the most
> | difficult
> | > > part. The new battery is socketed in case VideoCipher survives for
> | another
> | > > 20 years. Anyway, I'm good to go for another 10 years?
> | > >
> | > > JustMe wrote:
> | > >
> | > > > I have a VCII+ from 1990 and the battery still reads 3.62v
> | > > >
> | > > > <bitbucket@linkline.com> wrote in message
> | > > > news:59f2c058ongdk06i4mbomuor8kl2c8fqdi@4ax.com...
> | > > >> On Thu, 03 Jun 2004 21:32:09 -0400, Gary Tait
> | > > >> <classicsat@yahoo.cominvalid> wrote:
> | > > >>
> | > > >> |On Thu, 03 Jun 2004 21:32:03 GMT, johnny@n0sq.net wrote:
> | > > >> |
> | > > >> |>I want to change the battery on the DSR922 mainboard. Does this
> | have
> | > > >> |>the same issue as the VC II board where it could wipe out the
unit
> | > ID?
> | > > >> |>If
> | > > > so,
> | > > >> |>has anyone come up with a procedure that will replace the
DSR922
> | > > >> |>battery without loss of data?
> | > > >> |>
> | > > >> |
> | > > >> |Yes, it holds critical data. Use the same procedure for the VCII
> | > > >> |battery replacement.
> | > > >>
> | > > >> What might that be? I lost my first VCII due to battery failure
and
> | > > >> bought a used one. The used one looks newer, but I'm sure its
> | battery
> | > > >> isn't very long for this world either. Do we get a break if we
send
> | > > >> it in for battery replacement before it fails? I'm suspecting
not,
> | so
> | > > >> self replacement for those who can seems a good alternative.
I've
> | not
> | > > >> even considered my 922 yet, but it too will eventually need a new
> | bat.
> | > > >> Suggestions would be appreciated.
> | > >
> | >
> | >
> | > ---
> | > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.
> | > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).
> | > Version: 6.0.690 / Virus Database: 451 - Release Date: 5/22/2004
> | >
> | >
> |
> |
>
>

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You could give them the VC ID for a dead VC card and the Unit ID
for the 4DTV and receive digital programming. If the VC ID that you
gave them belonged to somebody else they may not accept it, but if
it was your old VC ID they would have no way of knowing it is dead.


"Malcom Gillette" <82muchmgillette1@cox.net> wrote in message
news:1Drxc.11214$1L4.10375@okepread02...
| So let me see if I got this right. I could use a brain dead VC2 unit to
| subscribe the 4DTV. As long as I had written down the units ID# before its
| batteries had died.
| Malcom
| "DRLev" <fake,@ddress.net> wrote in message
| news:u0Swc.40349$4x2.4562@fe2.texas.rr.com...
| > Write down your VC2 ID and save it someplace. You only need the
| > number, you don't need the VC2 module. Also possibly by then you
| > may not need a VC2 number. I don't think that SRL requires a VC ID
| > for some of their programming.
| >
| > The main reason the other providers want it is that their billing system
| > is based on that number. When 4DTV came out the digital subs were
| > tied directly to the analog subs. Recreating their system was not
| necessary.
| > Possibly as things change they also may change and drop that requirement.
| >
| >
| > "Malcom Gillette" <82muchmgillette1@cox.net> wrote in message
| > news:kPRwc.7372$1L4.3382@okepread02...
| > | Well I have a quick question about the 4DTV. If you need a VC2+ ID
| number
| > | before you can authorize a 4DTV. What are you going to do when most of
| the
| > | VC2's die?
| > | Malcom
| > | "Valdivar" <rebelleader68@hotmail.com> wrote in message
| > | news:lXFwc.3827$sS2.87988@news20.bellglobal.com...
| > | > I'll be surprised if there are still any vc2+ and analog signals on C
| band
| > | > in 10 yrs!
| > | >
| > | > <johnny@n0sq.net> wrote in message
| > | > news6rwc.2673$uX2.2193@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net...
| > | > > My VC II+ battery was dated May 1990 and it was slightly over 3.7V.
| But,
| > | I
| > | > > decided to replace it anyway. Getting the case open was the most
| > | difficult
| > | > > part. The new battery is socketed in case VideoCipher survives for
| > | another
| > | > > 20 years. Anyway, I'm good to go for another 10 years?
| > | > >
| > | > > JustMe wrote:
| > | > >
| > | > > > I have a VCII+ from 1990 and the battery still reads 3.62v
| > | > > >
| > | > > > <bitbucket@linkline.com> wrote in message
| > | > > > news:59f2c058ongdk06i4mbomuor8kl2c8fqdi@4ax.com...
| > | > > >> On Thu, 03 Jun 2004 21:32:09 -0400, Gary Tait
| > | > > >> <classicsat@yahoo.cominvalid> wrote:
| > | > > >>
| > | > > >> |On Thu, 03 Jun 2004 21:32:03 GMT, johnny@n0sq.net wrote:
| > | > > >> |
| > | > > >> |>I want to change the battery on the DSR922 mainboard. Does this
| > | have
| > | > > >> |>the same issue as the VC II board where it could wipe out the
| unit
| > | > ID?
| > | > > >> |>If
| > | > > > so,
| > | > > >> |>has anyone come up with a procedure that will replace the
| DSR922
| > | > > >> |>battery without loss of data?
| > | > > >> |>
| > | > > >> |
| > | > > >> |Yes, it holds critical data. Use the same procedure for the VCII
| > | > > >> |battery replacement.
| > | > > >>
| > | > > >> What might that be? I lost my first VCII due to battery failure
| and
| > | > > >> bought a used one. The used one looks newer, but I'm sure its
| > | battery
| > | > > >> isn't very long for this world either. Do we get a break if we
| send
| > | > > >> it in for battery replacement before it fails? I'm suspecting
| not,
| > | so
| > | > > >> self replacement for those who can seems a good alternative.
| I've
| > | not
| > | > > >> even considered my 922 yet, but it too will eventually need a new
| > | bat.
| > | > > >> Suggestions would be appreciated.
| > | > >
| > | >
| > | >
| > | > ---
| > | > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.
| > | > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).
| > | > Version: 6.0.690 / Virus Database: 451 - Release Date: 5/22/2004
| > | >
| > | >
| > |
| > |
| >
| >
|
|