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I wanted to replace a hughes receive with a used Directv DVR I bought
that did not have an access card. I also have a Hugher DirecTV DVR.

when I called Directv I was told I would have to pay $20 to get a new
access card, but that I also would have to comment to a new 24 month
agreement just to add the used unit.

I do not like the concept of having to commit to 24 months just to add
a second dvr.

was I given wrong info for the tech support person I called?

They also told me that my current charge of $4.99 for DVR service
would go up to $5.99 a month?

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<xgp@rr.com> wrote in message
news:1124302821.39d0100c73cdaee370e8bbcf0ff7140f@ultrafeed...
>I wanted to replace a hughes receive with a used Directv DVR I bought
> that did not have an access card. I also have a Hugher DirecTV DVR.
>
> when I called Directv I was told I would have to pay $20 to get a new
> access card, but that I also would have to comment to a new 24 month
> agreement just to add the used unit.
>
> I do not like the concept of having to commit to 24 months just to add
> a second dvr.
>
> was I given wrong info for the tech support person I called?
>
> They also told me that my current charge of $4.99 for DVR service
> would go up to $5.99 a month?

The DTV website does state monthly service is now $5.99

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<xgp@rr.com> wrote in message
news:1124302821.39d0100c73cdaee370e8bbcf0ff7140f@ultrafeed...
>I wanted to replace a hughes receive with a used Directv DVR I bought
> that did not have an access card. I also have a Hugher DirecTV DVR.
>
> when I called Directv I was told I would have to pay $20 to get a new
> access card, but that I also would have to comment to a new 24 month
> agreement just to add the used unit.

$20 sounds right. They do cost something you know.

> I do not like the concept of having to commit to 24 months just to add
> a second dvr.

Doesn't sound right seeing as they are giving brand new DVRs for free for
the same 24 committment.

> was I given wrong info for the tech support person I called?
>
> They also told me that my current charge of $4.99 for DVR service
> would go up to $5.99 a month?

I pay $4.99 a month for 4 DVRs, so no, that doesn't sound right.

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<xgp@rr.com> wrote in message
news:1124302821.39d0100c73cdaee370e8bbcf0ff7140f@ultrafeed...
> I wanted to replace a hughes receive with a used Directv DVR I bought
> that did not have an access card. I also have a Hugher DirecTV DVR.
>
> when I called Directv I was told I would have to pay $20 to get a new
> access card, but that I also would have to comment to a new 24 month
> agreement just to add the used unit.
>
> I do not like the concept of having to commit to 24 months just to add
> a second dvr.
>
> was I given wrong info for the tech support person I called?
>
> They also told me that my current charge of $4.99 for DVR service
> would go up to $5.99 a month?

I've found the words 'Never mind, just cancel my account' tend to go a long
ways in situations like that. Only caveat is that you have to be prepared
for them to say 'okay'. I don't pay for DVR service, since I have the full
package, so not sure what the current fee is.

I think the issue with the new cards is that people are using them to steal
services. Get a new cheap receiver, and just have the card programmed to
get all channels without paying. That is why you have to agree to activate
it within a given time, or you get billed up the wazoo. The $20 fee seems
reasonable enough. 24 months seems tough, but I understand why they are
doing that.

These comments are by no way, law. Just my perception why things are the
way that they are.

Jim

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In article <4303991d$0$63468$892e7fe2@authen.white.readfreenews.net>, "Jude H.Cormier" <jhc86@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
><xgp@rr.com> wrote in message
>news:1124302821.39d0100c73cdaee370e8bbcf0ff7140f@ultrafeed...
>>I wanted to replace a hughes receive with a used Directv DVR I bought
>> that did not have an access card. I also have a Hugher DirecTV DVR.
>>
>> when I called Directv I was told I would have to pay $20 to get a new
>> access card, but that I also would have to comment to a new 24 month
>> agreement just to add the used unit.
>>
>> I do not like the concept of having to commit to 24 months just to add
>> a second dvr.
>>
>> was I given wrong info for the tech support person I called?
>>
>> They also told me that my current charge of $4.99 for DVR service
>> would go up to $5.99 a month?
>
>The DTV website does state monthly service is now $5.99
>
>
And i bet a million bucks, their new DVR will be at $4.99

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In article <de2e0n$2ud$2@news.xmission.com>,
whodothere@whocares.com (GMAN) wrote:

> In article <4303991d$0$63468$892e7fe2@authen.white.readfreenews.net>, "Jude
> H.Cormier" <jhc86@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> ><xgp@rr.com> wrote in message
> >news:1124302821.39d0100c73cdaee370e8bbcf0ff7140f@ultrafeed...
> >>I wanted to replace a hughes receive with a used Directv DVR I bought
> >> that did not have an access card. I also have a Hugher DirecTV DVR.
> >>
> >> when I called Directv I was told I would have to pay $20 to get a new
> >> access card, but that I also would have to comment to a new 24 month
> >> agreement just to add the used unit.
> >>
> >> I do not like the concept of having to commit to 24 months just to add
> >> a second dvr.
> >>
> >> was I given wrong info for the tech support person I called?
> >>
> >> They also told me that my current charge of $4.99 for DVR service
> >> would go up to $5.99 a month?
> >
> >The DTV website does state monthly service is now $5.99
> >
> >
> And i bet a million bucks, their new DVR will be at $4.99

http://www.directv.com/DTVAPP/imagine/TIVO.dsp

Says its $5.99

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On 2005-08-18, Jack Zwick <jackzwick@yahoo.com> wrote:
> In article <de2e0n$2ud$2@news.xmission.com>,
> whodothere@whocares.com (GMAN) wrote:
>
>> In article <4303991d$0$63468$892e7fe2@authen.white.readfreenews.net>, "Jude
>> H.Cormier" <jhc86@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> ><xgp@rr.com> wrote in message
>> >news:1124302821.39d0100c73cdaee370e8bbcf0ff7140f@ultrafeed...
>> >>I wanted to replace a hughes receive with a used Directv DVR I bought
>> >> that did not have an access card. I also have a Hugher DirecTV DVR.
>> >>
>> >> when I called Directv I was told I would have to pay $20 to get a new
>> >> access card, but that I also would have to comment to a new 24 month
>> >> agreement just to add the used unit.
>> >>
>> >> I do not like the concept of having to commit to 24 months just to add
>> >> a second dvr.
>> >>
>> >> was I given wrong info for the tech support person I called?
>> >>
>> >> They also told me that my current charge of $4.99 for DVR service
>> >> would go up to $5.99 a month?
>> >
>> >The DTV website does state monthly service is now $5.99
>> >
>> >
>> And i bet a million bucks, their new DVR will be at $4.99
>
> http://www.directv.com/DTVAPP/imagine/TIVO.dsp
>
> Says its $5.99

Jack, that web page is talking about TiVo. I believe GMAN was referring
to the NDS deal - the non-TiVo DirecTV DVR we've heard about but never
seen hide nor hair of (and likely won't any time in the forseable future).

--
This is my .sig

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In article <11ga6k1m1d4n065@corp.supernews.com>,
Mike Hunt <in2sheep@yahoo.com> wrote:

> On 2005-08-18, Jack Zwick <jackzwick@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > In article <de2e0n$2ud$2@news.xmission.com>,
> > whodothere@whocares.com (GMAN) wrote:
> >
> >> In article <4303991d$0$63468$892e7fe2@authen.white.readfreenews.net>,
> >> "Jude
> >> H.Cormier" <jhc86@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> ><xgp@rr.com> wrote in message
> >> >news:1124302821.39d0100c73cdaee370e8bbcf0ff7140f@ultrafeed...
> >> >>I wanted to replace a hughes receive with a used Directv DVR I bought
> >> >> that did not have an access card. I also have a Hugher DirecTV DVR.
> >> >>
> >> >> when I called Directv I was told I would have to pay $20 to get a new
> >> >> access card, but that I also would have to comment to a new 24 month
> >> >> agreement just to add the used unit.
> >> >>
> >> >> I do not like the concept of having to commit to 24 months just to add
> >> >> a second dvr.
> >> >>
> >> >> was I given wrong info for the tech support person I called?
> >> >>
> >> >> They also told me that my current charge of $4.99 for DVR service
> >> >> would go up to $5.99 a month?
> >> >
> >> >The DTV website does state monthly service is now $5.99
> >> >
> >> >
> >> And i bet a million bucks, their new DVR will be at $4.99
> >
> > http://www.directv.com/DTVAPP/imagine/TIVO.dsp
> >
> > Says its $5.99
>
> Jack, that web page is talking about TiVo. I believe GMAN was referring
> to the NDS deal - the non-TiVo DirecTV DVR we've heard about but never
> seen hide nor hair of (and likely won't any time in the forseable future).

Did you actually read the OP message?

" I wanted to replace a hughes receive with a used Directv DVR I bought
that did not have an access card. I also have a Hugher DirecTV DVR."

If he bought it already it is a TiVo.

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> Did you actually read the OP message?
>
> " I wanted to replace a hughes receive with a used Directv DVR I bought
> that did not have an access card. I also have a Hugher DirecTV DVR."
>
> If he bought it already it is a TiVo.

Jack, relax, GMAN was responding to the announced price with a sarcastic
comment about the cost of the upcoming NDS unit. He's betting that they
undercut the Tivo unit by a $1. It had absolutely nothing to do with
the OP message.

Randy S.

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On 2005-08-19, Jack Zwick <jackzwick@yahoo.com> wrote:
> In article <11ga6k1m1d4n065@corp.supernews.com>,
> Mike Hunt <in2sheep@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> On 2005-08-18, Jack Zwick <jackzwick@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> > In article <de2e0n$2ud$2@news.xmission.com>,
>> > whodothere@whocares.com (GMAN) wrote:
>> >
>> >> In article <4303991d$0$63468$892e7fe2@authen.white.readfreenews.net>,
>> >> "Jude
>> >> H.Cormier" <jhc86@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> ><xgp@rr.com> wrote in message
>> >> >news:1124302821.39d0100c73cdaee370e8bbcf0ff7140f@ultrafeed...
>> >> >>I wanted to replace a hughes receive with a used Directv DVR I bought
>> >> >> that did not have an access card. I also have a Hugher DirecTV DVR.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> when I called Directv I was told I would have to pay $20 to get a new
>> >> >> access card, but that I also would have to comment to a new 24 month
>> >> >> agreement just to add the used unit.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I do not like the concept of having to commit to 24 months just to add
>> >> >> a second dvr.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> was I given wrong info for the tech support person I called?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> They also told me that my current charge of $4.99 for DVR service
>> >> >> would go up to $5.99 a month?
>> >> >
>> >> >The DTV website does state monthly service is now $5.99
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> And i bet a million bucks, their new DVR will be at $4.99
>> >
>> > http://www.directv.com/DTVAPP/imagine/TIVO.dsp
>> >
>> > Says its $5.99
>>
>> Jack, that web page is talking about TiVo. I believe GMAN was referring
>> to the NDS deal - the non-TiVo DirecTV DVR we've heard about but never
>> seen hide nor hair of (and likely won't any time in the forseable future).
>
> Did you actually read the OP message?
>
> " I wanted to replace a hughes receive with a used Directv DVR I bought
> that did not have an access card. I also have a Hugher DirecTV DVR."
>
> If he bought it already it is a TiVo.

Yes, but in the quote "And i bet a million bucks, their new DVR will be at
$4.99", who do you think "their" refers to? The OP already said the price
is going to $5.99 for their new DVR so the "their" can't refer to the OP,
leaving only DirecTV as a possibility. This is a valid guess since the
non-TiVo DirecTV DVR has been rumored for awhile.

The one way the "their" could refer to the OP is if the OP currently is
paying $4.99 and even though DirecTV now charges $5.99, that DirecTV will
continue to charge the OP $4.99 for the OP's new receiver. DirecTV told
the OP the $4.99 was going to $5.99 so I didn't believe this was the route
GMAN was going.

--
This is my .sig

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In article <11gaj77tlgjqm39@corp.supernews.com>,
Mike Hunt <in2sheep@yahoo.com> wrote:

> On 2005-08-19, Jack Zwick <jackzwick@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > In article <11ga6k1m1d4n065@corp.supernews.com>,
> > Mike Hunt <in2sheep@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On 2005-08-18, Jack Zwick <jackzwick@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> > In article <de2e0n$2ud$2@news.xmission.com>,
> >> > whodothere@whocares.com (GMAN) wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> In article <4303991d$0$63468$892e7fe2@authen.white.readfreenews.net>,
> >> >> "Jude
> >> >> H.Cormier" <jhc86@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> ><xgp@rr.com> wrote in message
> >> >> >news:1124302821.39d0100c73cdaee370e8bbcf0ff7140f@ultrafeed...
> >> >> >>I wanted to replace a hughes receive with a used Directv DVR I bought
> >> >> >> that did not have an access card. I also have a Hugher DirecTV DVR.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> when I called Directv I was told I would have to pay $20 to get a
> >> >> >> new
> >> >> >> access card, but that I also would have to comment to a new 24 month
> >> >> >> agreement just to add the used unit.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> I do not like the concept of having to commit to 24 months just to
> >> >> >> add
> >> >> >> a second dvr.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> was I given wrong info for the tech support person I called?
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> They also told me that my current charge of $4.99 for DVR service
> >> >> >> would go up to $5.99 a month?
> >> >> >
> >> >> >The DTV website does state monthly service is now $5.99
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> And i bet a million bucks, their new DVR will be at $4.99
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Says its $5.99
> >>
> >> Jack, that web page is talking about TiVo. I believe GMAN was referring
> >> to the NDS deal - the non-TiVo DirecTV DVR we've heard about but never
> >> seen hide nor hair of (and likely won't any time in the forseable future).
> >
> > Did you actually read the OP message?
> >
> > " I wanted to replace a hughes receive with a used Directv DVR I bought
> > that did not have an access card. I also have a Hugher DirecTV DVR."
> >
> > If he bought it already it is a TiVo.
>
> Yes, but in the quote "And i bet a million bucks, their new DVR will be at
> $4.99", who do you think "their" refers to? The OP already said the price
> is going to $5.99 for their new DVR so the "their" can't refer to the OP,
> leaving only DirecTV as a possibility. This is a valid guess since the
> non-TiVo DirecTV DVR has been rumored for awhile.
>
> The one way the "their" could refer to the OP is if the OP currently is
> paying $4.99 and even though DirecTV now charges $5.99, that DirecTV will
> continue to charge the OP $4.99 for the OP's new receiver. DirecTV told
> the OP the $4.99 was going to $5.99 so I didn't believe this was the route
> GMAN was going.

You trying to pretend to be a mind reader? The web site clearly says
$5.99

http://www.directv.com/DTVAPP/imagine/TIVO.dsp

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>>Yes, but in the quote "And i bet a million bucks, their new DVR will be at
>>$4.99", who do you think "their" refers to? The OP already said the price
>>is going to $5.99 for their new DVR so the "their" can't refer to the OP,
>>leaving only DirecTV as a possibility. This is a valid guess since the
>>non-TiVo DirecTV DVR has been rumored for awhile.
>>
>>The one way the "their" could refer to the OP is if the OP currently is
>>paying $4.99 and even though DirecTV now charges $5.99, that DirecTV will
>>continue to charge the OP $4.99 for the OP's new receiver. DirecTV told
>>the OP the $4.99 was going to $5.99 so I didn't believe this was the route
>>GMAN was going.
>
>
> You trying to pretend to be a mind reader? The web site clearly says
> $5.99
>
> http://www.directv.com/DTVAPP/imagine/TIVO.dsp

Jack, he's not referring to what the OP already bought! He was
referring to the, as yet mythical, NDS box. GMAN is just speculating on
what they might charge for that box.

Randy S.

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In article <de3c37$ns4$1@spnode25.nerdc.ufl.edu>, "Randy S." <rswitt@NOSPAM.com> wrote:
>
>> Did you actually read the OP message?
>>
>> " I wanted to replace a hughes receive with a used Directv DVR I bought
>> that did not have an access card. I also have a Hugher DirecTV DVR."
>>
>> If he bought it already it is a TiVo.
>
>Jack, relax, GMAN was responding to the announced price with a sarcastic
>comment about the cost of the upcoming NDS unit. He's betting that they
>undercut the Tivo unit by a $1. It had absolutely nothing to do with
>the OP message.
>
>Randy S.
Yup, thats all i meant. DirecTV just keeps dollaring us to death here and
there the last few years. They have been taking lessons from the cable
companies i guess? This is what happens when there is not enough competition.

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On Fri, 19 Aug 2005 03:07:19 -0000, Mike Hunt <in2sheep@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>On 2005-08-19, Jack Zwick <jackzwick@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> In article <11ga6k1m1d4n065@corp.supernews.com>,
>> Mike Hunt <in2sheep@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 2005-08-18, Jack Zwick <jackzwick@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> > In article <de2e0n$2ud$2@news.xmission.com>,
>>> > whodothere@whocares.com (GMAN) wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> In article <4303991d$0$63468$892e7fe2@authen.white.readfreenews.net>,
>>> >> "Jude
>>> >> H.Cormier" <jhc86@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> >> >
>>> >> ><xgp@rr.com> wrote in message
>>> >> >news:1124302821.39d0100c73cdaee370e8bbcf0ff7140f@ultrafeed...
>>> >> >>I wanted to