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Where's the guy who was insisting that flash memory wouldn't save power  
over hard drives?
 
http://www.extremetech.com/article [...] 189,00.asp
 
Appropriate quote:
 
"Samsung Semiconductor executives said Monday that the concept of a hard  
drive incorporating flash memory will be a reality, and come to market  
in mid-2006.
 
The drive, first talked about at last year's Windows Hardware  
Engineering Conference (WinHEC) in Seattle, will be manufactured by  
Samsung's hard disk drive division, according to the company. The drive  
will be initially targeted at notebooks, where the drive's low power  
consumption will yield the most benefit."
 
Wow, imagine that, flash memory saves power!?
 
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"Randy S." <rswittno@spamgmail.com> wrote in news:d4op10$l58$1
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> Where's the guy who was insisting that flash memory wouldn't save power  
> over hard drives?
 
He wandered off after a week, like I predicted.  Hopefully this won't wake  
him back up, but if it does, he'll get bored again eventually.
 
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"Howard" <stile99@email.com.> wrote in message  
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> "Randy S." <rswittno@spamgmail.com> wrote in news:d4op10$l58$1
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>
>> Where's the guy who was insisting that flash memory wouldn't save power
>> over hard drives?
>
> He wandered off after a week, like I predicted.  Hopefully this won't wake
> him back up, but if it does, he'll get bored again eventually.
 
As long as your post doesn't contain certain keywords, he probably won't be  
back.  Make sure your posts don't contain the words "pow*er", "sur*ge" and  
"dam*age" (asterisks put in to throw off search engine), he probably won't  
find them.

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Seth wrote:
> "Howard" <stile99@email.com.> wrote in message  
> news:Xns9645A2F58B2F5stile@129.250.170.81...
>  
>> "Randy S." <rswittno@spamgmail.com> wrote in news:d4op10$l58$1
>> @spnode25.nerdc.ufl.edu:
>>
>>> Where's the guy who was insisting that flash memory wouldn't save power
>>> over hard drives?
>>
>>
>> He wandered off after a week, like I predicted.  Hopefully this won't  
>> wake
>> him back up, but if it does, he'll get bored again eventually.
>  
>  
> As long as your post doesn't contain certain keywords, he probably won't  
> be back.  Make sure your posts don't contain the words "pow*er",  
> "sur*ge" and "dam*age" (asterisks put in to throw off search engine), he  
> probably won't find them.
>  
 
Those are really odd things to get fixated on!?
 
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"Randy S." <rswittNO@SPAMgmail.com> wrote in message  
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>>
>> As long as your post doesn't contain certain keywords, he probably won't  
>> be back.  Make sure your posts don't contain the words "pow*er", "sur*ge"  
>> and "dam*age" (asterisks put in to throw off search engine), he probably  
>> won't find them.
>
> Those are really odd things to get fixated on!?
 
Do a search of his postings and you'll see.  All over Usenet, when the  
issues alluded to above come around, he's there to preach.

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Once upon a time, Seth <seth_lermanNOSPAM@hotmail.com> said:
>Do a search of his postings and you'll see.  All over Usenet, when the  
>issues alluded to above come around, he's there to preach.
 
Yep.  Saw him here, then a couple of months later he popped into a local
(Huntsville, Alabama) newsgroup with the same messages.  You forgot the
word "gr0und" BTW.
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"Seth" <seth_lermanNOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote in
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> Do a search of his postings and you'll see.  All over Usenet, when the  
> issues alluded to above come around, he's there to preach.
 
Is he always that mind-bogglingly wrong?
 
I mean...if I spent my time grepping the news spool for a certain subject,  
I'd at least open a friggin' primer on the topic first, if not take pains to  
familiarize myself with it.
 
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"Howard" <stile99@email.com.> wrote in message  
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> "Seth" <seth_lermanNOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote in
> news:c4Ybe.5$Ov7.0@news02.roc.ny:
>
>> Do a search of his postings and you'll see.  All over Usenet, when the
>> issues alluded to above come around, he's there to preach.
>
> Is he always that mind-bogglingly wrong?
>
> I mean...if I spent my time grepping the news spool for a certain subject,
> I'd at least open a friggin' primer on the topic first, if not take pains  
> to
> familiarize myself with it.
 
Most of what he says in regards to grounding and such in the satellite  
newsgroups is correct, but I guess he saw his "keywords" here, saw this  
group as a new frontier and went to town.

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"Chris Adams" <cmadams@hiwaay.net> wrote in message  
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> Once upon a time, Seth <seth_lermanNOSPAM@hotmail.com> said:
>>Do a search of his postings and you'll see.  All over Usenet, when the
>>issues alluded to above come around, he's there to preach.
>
> Yep.  Saw him here, then a couple of months later he popped into a local
> (Huntsville, Alabama) newsgroup with the same messages.  You forgot the
> word "gr0und" BTW.
 
Well, that's his thing.  Usually that word is absent in the original post  
and he pops in to provide it.

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Randy S. wrote:
> "The drive will be initially targeted at notebooks, where the drive's
> low power consumption will yield the most benefit."
>  
> Wow, imagine that, flash memory saves power!?
 
Yes, for typical workday non-video applications.
 
        http://www.extremetech.com/article [...] 978,00.asp
 
   "Filling up a 128-Mbyte flash chip may require writing to the disk
   once every 11 minutes or so, in a worst-case scenario [on a laptop]."
 
A one-gigibit chip (128 megabytes) handles only 40 seconds at 3 MB/s.
 -Joe

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Joe Smith wrote:
> Randy S. wrote:
>  
>> "The drive will be initially targeted at notebooks, where the drive's
>> low power consumption will yield the most benefit."
>>
>> Wow, imagine that, flash memory saves power!?
>  
>  
> Yes, for typical workday non-video applications.
>  
>        http://www.extremetech.com/article [...] 978,00.asp
>  
>   "Filling up a 128-Mbyte flash chip may require writing to the disk
>   once every 11 minutes or so, in a worst-case scenario [on a laptop]."
>  
> A one-gigibit chip (128 megabytes) handles only 40 seconds at 3 MB/s.
>     -Joe
 
There's a reason it's a "hybrid" drive.  Flash memory ain't quite up to  
the task on it's own yet.  One day . . . .
 
The new "perpindicular" HD's sound interesting though.  Expect sizes  
well above 500 GB next year.
 
Randy S.

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> There's a reason it's a "hybrid" drive.  Flash memory ain't quite up to  
> the task on it's own yet.  One day . . . .
>  
> The new "perpindicular" HD's sound interesting though.  Expect sizes  
> well above 500 GB next year.
>  
> Randy S.
 
If I could only spell "perpendicular"!
 
Randy S.

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Randy S. wrote:
 
> The new "perpindicular" HD's sound interesting though.  Expect sizes  
> well above 500 GB next year.
 
For those of you who missed it: Hitachi announced perpendicular
recording in a song:
http://www.hitachigst.com/hdd/rese [...] ation.html

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Joe Smith wrote:
> Randy S. wrote:
>  
>> The new "perpindicular" HD's sound interesting though.  Expect sizes  
>> well above 500 GB next year.
>  
>  
> For those of you who missed it: Hitachi announced perpendicular
> recording in a song:
> http://www.hitachigst.com/hdd/rese [...] ation.html  
>  
 
OMG!  Whose warped imagination came up with that! ;-)
 
Randy S.

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"Seth" <seth_lermanNOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> > Once upon a time, Seth <seth_lermanNOSPAM@hotmail.com> said:
> >>Do a search of his postings and you'll see.  All over Usenet, when the
> >>issues alluded to above come around, he's there to preach.
> >
> > Yep.  Saw him here, then a couple of months later he popped into a local
> > (Huntsville, Alabama) newsgroup with the same messages.  You forgot the
> > word "gr0und" BTW.
>
> Well, that's his thing.  Usually that word is absent in the original post
> and he pops in to provide it.
 
Would this guy be an advocate of whole-house ummm, s***e pr0tection, by any
chance?  If so, I think I remember him from about 3-5 years ago...wow.
 
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"machinehead" <zzz@zzz.com> wrote in message  
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> "Seth" <seth_lermanNOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:p%Ybe.17901$V02.3995@fe08.lga...
>> "Chris Adams" <cmadams@hiwaay.net> wrote in message
>> news:1170l2b142u1f2@corp.supernews.com...
>> > Once upon a time, Seth <seth_lermanNOSPAM@hotmail.com> said:
>> >>Do a search of his postings and you'll see.  All over Usenet, when the
>> >>issues alluded to above come around, he's there to preach.
>> >
>> > Yep.  Saw him here, then a couple of months later he popped into a  
>> > local
>> > (Huntsville, Alabama) newsgroup with the same messages.  You forgot the
>> > word "gr0und" BTW.
>>
>> Well, that's his thing.  Usually that word is absent in the original post
>> and he pops in to provide it.
>
> Would this guy be an advocate of whole-house ummm, s***e pr0tection, by  
> any
> chance?  If so, I think I remember him from about 3-5 years ago...wow.
 
The same.
 
But in all honesty, I am also a fan of "whole house s***e pr0tection", and  
agree with him, at least on a technical level, that it is the way to go.
 
But, I'm no where near being in his league of fanaticism.

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"Seth" <seth_lermanNOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> The same.
>
> But in all honesty, I am also a fan of "whole house s***e pr0tection", and
> agree with him, at least on a technical level, that it is the way to go.
>
> But, I'm no where near being in his league of fanaticism.
 
Yeah, that about sums it up.  Like, "ok guy, we beleive you, but calm down!"
:-P
 
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machinehead wrote:
> "Seth" <seth_lermanNOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>>The same.
>>
>>But in all honesty, I am also a fan of "whole house s***e pr0tection", and
>>agree with him, at least on a technical level, that it is the way to go.
>>
>>But, I'm no where near being in his league of fanaticism.
>  
>  
> Yeah, that about sums it up.  Like, "ok guy, we beleive you, but calm down!"
> :-P
>  
> Ed
> 84HurstOlds@nowherenow.com
>  
>  
 
What mystified me was when he branched off into whole other levels of  
topics he clearly did not have an understanding of.  The odd thing was  
that his central tenet wasn't wrong (though over the top), but he  
presented it so wacky!
 
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