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Is there a TiVo setting that can make a front panel LED blink to show
when recorded programs exist? This would be faster than having to turn
on the TV (and take the TiVo out of Standby) to see if anything's ready
to watch. I think a slow blinking green LED would make a good
recordings-exist indicator.

JT

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"Jack Tyler" <jctyler_67@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:1110744122.352877.146550@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
> Is there a TiVo setting that can make a front panel LED blink to show
> when recorded programs exist? This would be faster than having to turn
> on the TV (and take the TiVo out of Standby) to see if anything's ready
> to watch. I think a slow blinking green LED would make a good
> recordings-exist indicator.
>
> JT
>

Something is always ready to watch on TiVo.

Recorded programs exist on nearly every TiVo. You might be the only
one who doesn't have *any* recordings before the new ones appear.

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"Jack Tyler" <jctyler_67@yahoo.com> wrote in news:1110744122.352877.146550
@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com:

> Is there a TiVo setting that can make a front panel LED blink to show
> when recorded programs exist? This would be faster than having to turn
> on the TV (and take the TiVo out of Standby) to see if anything's ready
> to watch. I think a slow blinking green LED would make a good
> recordings-exist indicator.

When do recorded programs NOT exist?

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Not to mention, why would you put your Tivo in Standby everyday?

"Howard" <stile99@email.com.> wrote in message
news:Xns9618A76568B8Fstile@129.250.170.93...
> "Jack Tyler" <jctyler_67@yahoo.com> wrote in news:1110744122.352877.146550
> @z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com:
>
>> Is there a TiVo setting that can make a front panel LED blink to show
>> when recorded programs exist? This would be faster than having to turn
>> on the TV (and take the TiVo out of Standby) to see if anything's ready
>> to watch. I think a slow blinking green LED would make a good
>> recordings-exist indicator.
>
> When do recorded programs NOT exist?
>
> --
> Minister of All Things Digital & Electronic, and Holder of Past Knowledge
> stile99@email.com. Cabal# 24601-fnord | Sleep is irrelevant.
> I speak for no one but myself, and |Caffeine will be assimilated.
> no one else speaks for me. O- | Decaf is futile.

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On Sun, 13 Mar 2005 18:45:53 -0500, Megan wrote:

> why would you put your Tivo in Standby everyday?

Some people do that because the TiVo passes through what it sees on RF
input to it's RF output when it is Standby mode.

Also, if you have a DirecTiVo, you can theoretically save some wear & tear
on the drive in standby, since it stops recording it's buffer...

--
Lenroc

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Jack Ak wrote:

> "Jack Tyler" <jctyler_67@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1110744122.352877.146550@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
> > Is there a TiVo setting that can make a front panel LED blink to
show
> > when recorded programs exist? This would be faster than having to
turn
> > on the TV (and take the TiVo out of Standby) to see if anything's
ready
> > to watch. I think a slow blinking green LED would make a good
> > recordings-exist indicator.
> >
> > JT
> >
>
> Something is always ready to watch on TiVo.
>
> Recorded programs exist on nearly every TiVo. You might be the only
> one who doesn't have *any* recordings before the new ones appear.

I suppose it's a non-issue for many people. I have the so-called "80
hour" model but I see artifacts at anything below "Best" quality, so
it's just a 22 hour recorder for my purposes. I don't like to record
more stuff than can be watched in a reasonable time frame, so I choose
carefully and don't record re-runs in Season Passes. I do plan to add a
160GB HD fairly soon.

JT

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"Lenroc" <lenroc@NOSPAMFORYOU.hotmail.com> wrote in message news:9t4Zd.20750$KK5.1724@fed1read03...
> On Sun, 13 Mar 2005 18:45:53 -0500, Megan wrote:
>
> > why would you put your Tivo in Standby everyday?
>
> Some people do that because the TiVo passes through what it sees on RF
> input to it's RF output when it is Standby mode.
>
> Also, if you have a DirecTiVo, you can theoretically save some wear & tear
> on the drive in standby, since it stops recording it's buffer...
>
.... and the internal temperature will drop several degrees overnight while in Standby.
High temperatures can reduce the estimated life of electronic components.

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Megan wrote:

> Not to mention, why would you put your Tivo in Standby everyday?

It saves energy and significant wear because the HD isn't constantly
recording a 30 minute buffer. I rarely watch live TV so the buffer
isn't critical. Also, I bought the Lifetime service contract, which
means the life of the machine, not the user and I'd rather not push it!
The very thought of conserving things (vs. dumping them and buying new
ones) seems to shock a lot of Americans, but I was raised differently.

I also don't want the white front panel light on all the time, though I
know it can be disabled. I have it on minimum brightness when it's off
standby.

JT

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Lenroc wrote:

> On Sun, 13 Mar 2005 18:45:53 -0500, Megan wrote:
>
> > why would you put your Tivo in Standby everyday?
>
> Some people do that because the TiVo passes through what it sees on
RF
> input to it's RF output when it is Standby mode.

Yes, I have mine set up just like a VCR so I can watch the TV without
it being on. I did it that way for various other connection reasons
too. I don't get why the manual recommends using an RF splitter to pass
a signal to the TV when it works fine the "old fashioned" way and the
unit seems degisned for just that. Must be a cable box or dish issue (I
have basic cable only).

> Also, if you have a DirecTiVo, you can theoretically save some wear &
tear
> on the drive in standby, since it stops recording it's buffer...

With any TiVo that's a lot more than a theory. The hard drive is still
on but it's only spinning, not constantly writing, which has to save
wear on it. There ought to be a way to turn it fully off to save even
more energy.

JT

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Jack Ak wrote:

> "Lenroc" <lenroc@NOSPAMFORYOU.hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:9t4Zd.20750$KK5.1724@fed1read03...
> > On Sun, 13 Mar 2005 18:45:53 -0500, Megan wrote:
> >
> > > why would you put your Tivo in Standby everyday?
> >
> > Some people do that because the TiVo passes through what it sees on
RF
> > input to it's RF output when it is Standby mode.
> >
> > Also, if you have a DirecTiVo, you can theoretically save some wear
& tear
> > on the drive in standby, since it stops recording it's buffer...
> >
> ... and the internal temperature will drop several degrees overnight
while in Standby.
> High temperatures can reduce the estimated life of electronic
components.

Not to mention conserving energy, which ought to matter to more people.
I am hoping to get at least 10 years out of this machine for the
"Lifetime" service contract unless they render it obsolete before then.

JT

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"Jack Tyler" <jctyler_67@yahoo.com> wrote in news:1110766223.016055.23930
@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com:

> The very thought of conserving things (vs. dumping them and buying new
> ones) seems to shock a lot of Americans, but I was raised differently.

Much like the very thought of how electronic devices work, apparently.

I let mine work as it was designed to. I guarantee it will outlast yours.

--
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I speak for no one but myself, and |Caffeine will be assimilated.
no one else speaks for me. O- | Decaf is futile.

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In article <YrqdnV2t_8UtTanfRVn-sg@comcast.com>, "Megan" <spam@uce.gov> wrote:
>Not to mention, why would you put your Tivo in Standby everyday?
>

I do at night. There is absolutely no need for me to have it buffer the 2
tuners all night while i am asleep.I'm probably just being anal about it.


>"Howard" <stile99@email.com.> wrote in message
>news:Xns9618A76568B8Fstile@129.250.170.93...
>> "Jack Tyler" <jctyler_67@yahoo.com> wrote in news:1110744122.352877.146550
>> @z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com:
>>
>>> Is there a TiVo setting that can make a front panel LED blink to show
>>> when recorded programs exist? This would be faster than having to turn
>>> on the TV (and take the TiVo out of Standby) to see if anything's ready
>>> to watch. I think a slow blinking green LED would make a good
>>> recordings-exist indicator.
>>
>> When do recorded programs NOT exist?
>>
>> --
>> Minister of All Things Digital & Electronic, and Holder of Past Knowledge
>> stile99@email.com. Cabal# 24601-fnord | Sleep is irrelevant.
>> I speak for no one but myself, and |Caffeine will be assimilated.
>> no one else speaks for me. O- | Decaf is futile.
>
>

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"Jack Tyler" <jctyler_67@yahoo.com> wrote in news:1110766772.957236.85670
@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com:

> With any TiVo that's a lot more than a theory. The hard drive is still
> on but it's only spinning, not constantly writing, which has to save
> wear on it. There ought to be a way to turn it fully off to save even
> more energy.

Tell me what part it saves wear on.

Use this, it might help:

http://computer.howstuffworks.com/hard-disk.htm

If you're really concerned about the amount of energy it needs when "not in
use", unplug it. The difference between .005 cents and .007 cents is NOT
"wasteful" when no matter what you do, it's rounded up to the penny anyway.

--
Minister of All Things Digital & Electronic, and Holder of Past Knowledge
stile99@email.com. Cabal# 24601-fnord | Sleep is irrelevant.
I speak for no one but myself, and |Caffeine will be assimilated.
no one else speaks for me. O- | Decaf is futile.

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Howard wrote:

> "Jack Tyler" <jctyler_67@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:1110766223.016055.23930
> @f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com:
>
> > The very thought of conserving things (vs. dumping them and buying
new
> > ones) seems to shock a lot of Americans, but I was raised
differently.
>
> Much like the very thought of how electronic devices work,
apparently.
>
> I let mine work as it was designed to. I guarantee it will outlast
yours.

How can you possibly "guarantee" such a thing? Since the hard drive
apparently spins in or out of Standby mode (I can hear it), and the fan
stays on, there are no heating/cooling cycles to shorten its life in
that regard. The main issue is how much wear occurs when it's writing
the buffer vs. just spinning (in Standby mode). It seems logical that
the less the head moves, the longer the hard drive will last. Unless
someone runs a server, that's the same reason you should turn off or
hibernate a computer when not in use. Would you deny that?

And I don't share the throw-away mentality of just get another one if
it breaks, which guides a lot of "leave it on" dogma. Many claims that
devices are "shocked" by power cycles (which doesn't really apply to
this TiVo issue) are based on old technology that did require specific
warm up times, like tube amps.

JT

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On Sun, 13 Mar 2005 18:19:33 -0800, Jack Tyler wrote:

> Lenroc wrote:
>
>> Also, if you have a DirecTiVo, you can theoretically save some wear &
>> tear on the drive in standby, since it stops recording it's buffer...
>
> With any TiVo that's a lot more than a theory.

Actually, it's only theory, and it only applies to DirecTiVos.

Standalone (non-DirecTiVos) do _not_ stop recording their buffer, even in
Standby.

And if you can _prove_ that not recording the buffer lengthens the
lifespan of the drive, I'm all ears (or eyes...).

Reading from and writing to a drive don't necessarily make it die any
faster.

--
Lenroc