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Need to record specific local news programs M-F and S-S, same time,
every day. Only use for the system. Will any ReplayTV rigs permit
recording without a subscription?

Thank you kindly.

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John Bartley wrote:
> Need to record specific local news programs M-F and S-S, same time,
> every day. Only use for the system. Will any ReplayTV rigs permit
> recording without a subscription?
>
> Thank you kindly.
>
Yes -- The original Panasonic Showstopper. -- If you can find one.

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Basically, no. YOu get a short trial period, that's it

John Bartley wrote:
> Need to record specific local news programs M-F and S-S, same time,
> every day. Only use for the system. Will any ReplayTV rigs permit
> recording without a subscription?
>
> Thank you kindly.
>

--
John F Davis, in Delightful Detroit. WA8YXM(at)arrl(dot)net
"Nothing adds excitement like something that is none of your business"
Diabetic? http://community.compuserve.com/diabetes

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On Thu, 15 Sep 2005 19:29:18 -0400, BRH <BRH> wrote:

>John Bartley wrote:
>> Need to record specific local news programs M-F and S-S, same time,
>> every day. Only use for the system. Will any ReplayTV rigs permit
>> recording without a subscription?
>>
>> Thank you kindly.
>>
>Yes -- The original Panasonic Showstopper. -- If you can find one.

Essentially, the old units (2xxx, 3xxx, Showstopper) came with
lifetime subscription. It is needed, but is always there.
--
101 days until the winter solstice celebration

Mark Lloyd
has a Replay 5xxx
http://notstupid.laughingsquid.com

"The idea that there is an invisible being who
created and still runs this old universe is so
childish, so obviously contrived, that it is hard to
believe anyone with even a modicum of education can
still fall for that scam."

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General Kireiko <douglas@panix.com> wrote in newsgct4l$3jf$1
@reader1.panix.com:

> John Bartley <john.bartley@gmail.com> wrote:
>: Need to record specific local news programs M-F and S-S, same time,
>: every day. Only use for the system. Will any ReplayTV rigs permit
>: recording without a subscription?
>
>: Thank you kindly.
>
> No.

So, if the company goes out of business, are we screwed?


Rick

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Rick Diamant wrote:
> General Kireiko <douglas@panix.com> wrote in newsgct4l$3jf$1
> @reader1.panix.com:
>
>
>>John Bartley <john.bartley@gmail.com> wrote:
>>: Need to record specific local news programs M-F and S-S, same time,
>>: every day. Only use for the system. Will any ReplayTV rigs permit
>>: recording without a subscription?
>>
>>: Thank you kindly.
>>
>>No.
>
>
> So, if the company goes out of business, are we screwed?
>
>
> Rick

I wouldn't think so. If it does happen, I bet they'll put something out
that allows the replay to become sub-free.

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>
>
> So, if the company goes out of business, are we screwed?
>
>
> Rick

Look on the bright side, maybe a tree will fall over and kill you.

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On Fri, 16 Sep 2005 15:49:56 +0000 (UTC), General Kireiko
<douglas@panix.com> wrote:

>I think if that happened as part of a bankruptcy proceeding, the company
>going out of business would have to use assets to fund a trust which would
>provide guide data, or they'd have to provide a software update to easily
>allow existing units to continue to receive guide data manually via an
>internet download or something. Basically, they'd have to unlock the box.


You haven't really seen many bankruptsys up close have you. Ask an
Evinrude owner how his extended warranty went.

The reality is all of those hacks the true believers are holding close
to their vest to keep RTV somewhat viable would end up on usenet
binaries groups.

DNNA is not going bankrupt but they could quite easily sell off their
RTV subscriber base to Zap2it if we were lucky, or to someone else who
would go bankrupt for them. Bear in mind the "lifers" have ZERO market
value. That is an unfunded obligation. The only revenue stream is from
"monthlies"

Any value a lifer has is as a customer to a future product and that
might not be backward compatible with RTV. It would actually help DNNA
to kill all of these old machines, in the same way IBM used to take
back old computers and crush trhem. You don't want to compete with
last year's product.

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Likely not... Likely if the company files and goes under they will
"Update" every replay with a "lifetime" subscription.

In the past their behavior suggests this MIGHT, and I stress MIGHT,
happen. No guarantee... but they can do it

Or... If you wish for a mere 300 more than the sticker price you can buy
a lifetime today, well tomorrow

Rick Diamant wrote:
>
>
> So, if the company goes out of business, are we screwed?
>
>
> Rick

--
John F Davis, in Delightful Detroit. WA8YXM(at)arrl(dot)net
"Nothing adds excitement like something that is none of your business"
Diabetic? http://community.compuserve.com/diabetes

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Tony D wrote:

> Look on the bright side, maybe a tree will fall over and kill you.


You know... I saw that happen to a luckless passenger in a car once
(The driver was unhurt), Tree limb came through the roof and nailed the
passenger)

N/B M-10 Service drive near Abbot, city of Detroit, perhaps 10-15 years
ago I was on what would have been the s/b service drive, if there had
been one there (1200 Fr. Kern, an office building directly across the
freeway)
--
John F Davis, in Delightful Detroit. WA8YXM(at)arrl(dot)net
"Nothing adds excitement like something that is none of your business"
Diabetic? http://community.compuserve.com/diabetes

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Mark Lloyd wrote:
> On Thu, 15 Sep 2005 19:29:18 -0400, BRH <BRH> wrote:
>
>
>>John Bartley wrote:
>>
>>>Need to record specific local news programs M-F and S-S, same time,
>>>every day. Only use for the system. Will any ReplayTV rigs permit
>>>recording without a subscription?
>>>
>>>Thank you kindly.
>>>
>>
>>Yes -- The original Panasonic Showstopper. -- If you can find one.
>
>
> Essentially, the old units (2xxx, 3xxx, Showstopper) came with
> lifetime subscription. It is needed, but is always there.

Technically, I guess you're right. The subscription was free. I stand
corrected.

....and I should know -- I've got two of 'em.... 8-)

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On Fri, 16 Sep 2005 22:22:21 GMT, John in Detroit
<Blanked@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

>
>In the past their behavior suggests this MIGHT, and I stress MIGHT,
>happen. No guarantee... but they can do it


Who is "they". This company has changed ownership 3 times.

With the cable and satellite companies giving DVRs away for free it is
a decllining market unless they can get a "content" deal.

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gfretwell@aol.com wrote:
> On Fri, 16 Sep 2005 22:22:21 GMT, John in Detroit
> <Blanked@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
>
>>In the past their behavior suggests this MIGHT, and I stress MIGHT,
>>happen. No guarantee... but they can do it
>
>
>
> Who is "they". This company has changed ownership 3 times.
>
> With the cable and satellite companies giving DVRs away for free it is
> a decllining market unless they can get a "content" deal.

"They" are a content PROVIDER. DNNA signed an agreement with Tribune
Media some time ago to distribute services and functions to customers
using the Replay Server system.

And from various discussions, I believe the more "free" DVRs out there,
the more people think "free" is too expensive.

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On Sat, 17 Sep 2005 17:28:54 -0400, Tony D <nospam@nospam.com> wrote:

>And from various discussions, I believe the more "free" DVRs out there,
>the more people think "free" is too expensive.

What is the current market penetration of the Cable/satellite DVR vs
the RTV/unbundled TiVo?

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John in Detroit <Blanked@sbcglobal.net> wrote in news:xAHWe.1046$4T5.557
@newssvr17.news.prodigy.com:

> Likely not... Likely if the company files and goes under they will
> "Update" every replay with a "lifetime" subscription.
>
> In the past their behavior suggests this MIGHT, and I stress MIGHT,
> happen. No guarantee... but they can do it
>
> Or... If you wish for a mere 300 more than the sticker price you can buy
> a lifetime today, well tomorrow
>
> Rick Diamant wrote:
>>
>>
>> So, if the company goes out of business, are we screwed?
>>
>>
>> Rick

I have a lifetime subscription, since I bought mine as a refurb. My
concern is that they will stop providing content, and that I will not even
be able to record manually. I suppose if that happens, I'll just have to
be happy with the two years (or whatever it turns out to be) of use I've
gotten out of it so far, and try to find something else.

Not that I've heard any rumors lately, but considering I never see any ads
for Replay any more, and I keep hearing so frequently that Tivo (the one
that's supposed to be successful) is having so much trouble, it just makes
me worry.


Rick