New Budget Pc

Hi all,

Im looking buying a new gaming Pc, my budget is about £400, i have looked at a few websites and theres three Pc's i like the look of but i dont know which one is best for games, im looking at playing stuff like Cities in Motion, CoD black ops and crysis 2. (not at max settings obviously)

These are the three i liked:

http://www.cube247.co.uk/products. [...] apella+GT4

http://www.ukgamingcomputers.co.uk [...] p-128.html

http://www.ramcsuk.co.uk/epages/es [...] oducts/008

What do you think?

cheers.

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Reply to Mangotango

I'd not be inclined to go for the Eros Athlon II build, as it has too small an amount of RAM when compared to the other 2 builds. Neither machine has Windows, not sure if this is an issue for you or not. I'd personally lean towards the Capella GT4 as it has slightly better specs. The CPU is slower, but it's still reasonably quick and is dual-core. At a budget, I don't see the point in getting an X4.

Reply to diellur

I was thinking that maybe an x4 processor would give me some future proofing maybe, also, which is more powerful, a gt430 or a hd5670? Windows isnt an issue really, I have a copy spare.

Reply to Mangotango

In theory, the HD5670, but that’s only from comparing the specs. Real-world application will vary, so do some Googling to see what’s what and how it applies to your usage.

It’s a good question on the dual-core v quad-core. The Phenom II X4 might be easier to overclock, I think, which may make it more future-proof than the X2. The turn-off for me with that system is the lower spec for the motherboard and the unbranded PSU (from the description, anyway).

Either way, whichever system you get you’ll be making a compromise. Have you also looked at taking he £400 and going to a website like Scan and pricing up your own build? eBay would be a good bet too…you could get some older chips second-hand for a very good price.

Reply to diellur

You would have better results posting in the dedicated build forums than in the general discussions thread.

Reply to audiovoodoo

Im from the uk and all the other forums seem to be talking about us builds and $ prices so I posted here in the uk bit

Reply to Mangotango

That unfortunately is because there are more of them than there are of us. It's always been a problem with the reviews too as the price points for products move with local tax. However the ranges remain the same and a quick google will give you an indication of local price.

It's not going to blow anything up but you will get better tech advice in the bits of the forums those types of people hang out in (I live in Linux land most of the time) as only people logging into the UK site see this section. Why not call on a couple of hundred thousand people who also have experience?

Reply to audiovoodoo

Been looking on ebay for you and how about this to start with

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI [...] 613wt_1139
Bundle consists of- @ £150

Intel® Core™2 Quad Processor Q9550
(12M Cache, 2.83 GHz, 1333 MHz FSB)

ASUS P5Q Motherboard
Intel LGA775 Platform
Intel® P45 chipset
ASUS 8-phase Power Design
Dual-channel DDR2 1200/1066/800/667 MHz
100% High-quality Japan-made Conductive Polymer Capacitors!
VRM 5000hrs lifespan @105°C, 500,000hrs @65°C
ASUS EPU-6 Engine
ASUS Express Gate
ASUS Drive Xpert
VRD11.1 CPU support (backward support VRD10.X CPU)
4GB - 4 x 1GB Sticks of OCZ2N1066SR2GK PC2 8500 DDR2 RAM

Titan Fenrir EVO Gold Edition AMD AM3 / Intel 1366 / 1155 / 1156 / 775 CPU Cooler

The same person also has this for sale- @ £100
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI [...] 500wt_1156

Bundle comprises of-- £100

Antec 1200 CASE
5 x CoolerMaster 120mm Blue LED SickleFlow FANS Connected to
NZXT SENTRY LX Fan Controller/Temp monitor
Sony BDU-X10S Blu-ray BD-ROM Black SATA
ANTEC CP-850watt Modular power supply

You could the person and offer him £250 for both that would leave you £150 fro a HDD and a GPU for that money you could buy a SAMSUNG F3 1TB drive plus an Nvidia GTX550ti, this all together would give you a massively better system than any of those you were looking at.

Reply to uther39

I wanted to upgrade to new parts, the core two quads and ddr2 are last generation.i wanted to get something newer like ddr3 and a core I series cpu or am3 amd.

Reply to Mangotango

Plus I didn't really want to have to build it, id rather get one delivered pre built.

Reply to Mangotango

Ok then i went on Aria net and bought all these components for a self build again much better than anything you can get pre built

AMD Phenom II X2 Dual Core 555 3.2GHz Black Edition C3 (Socket AM3) Processor - Retail #41167 £ 54.50

MSI 870-G45 AMD 870 (Socket AM3) DDR3 ATX Motherboard #44286 £ 43.03

4GB Corsair XMS3 (2x2GB) DDR3 PC3-10600C9 1333Mhz Dual Channel Kit - TW3X4G1333C9A #37150 £ 28.38

1TB Samsung HD103SJ SpinPoint F3 SATA-II 3.5" Hard Drive #37726 £ 31.25

Samsung SH-S222AB/BEBE DVD Writer #44494 £ 13.57 £ 13.57

Antec 300 Three Hundred Gaming Midi Tower Case - Black #31087 £ 38.95

600W OCZ StealthXStream 2 Power Supply #40944 £ 41.66

Arianet ATI Radeon HD 6850 OC 1024MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card with FREE Shogun 2 + Stalker Games #44457 £ 99.99

Basket Total £ 351.33
Approx. Delivery £ 11.97
VAT £ 72.66
Total £435.96

Reply to uther39

As you can see this would give you a much more powerfull gaming system, but its your choice, you really suffer if you want someone else to build it for you.

Reply to uther39

I know but thats over my budget, I can see what your saying with the self build but I'd be happier with someone else doing it and getting the warranty.

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Reply to Mangotango

Or the best pre built system i can find is

http://www.aria.co.uk/Systems/Gami [...] ctId=44612 = £449

Reply to uther39

Well its only £35 over, im sure you could save that in a month, also dont forget you get a warranty on all the parts you buy new.

Reply to uther39

The aria pc looks ok but I dint really want to go over budget when I can get a quad core pc for £370 from one I said above ad I've read the 5670 is meant to be a damn good mid range card

Reply to Mangotango

Its your choice buddy, but remember a good PC is the total sum of all its parts, not just 1 or 2.

Reply to uther39

I didn't think the parts listed were bad, are they?

Reply to Mangotango

PSU is very suspect which is probably the most important part of any PC build, Motherboard is also not a good one for future proofing. Case, likewise.

Reply to uther39

Mangotango wrote :

I know but thats over my budget, I can see what your saying with the self build but I'd be happier with someone else doing it and getting the warranty.

All parts of a PC are covered by warranty, whether you assemble it or not.

Reply to diellur

@ Diellur, i dont think we can convince him to do the self build buddy, regardless of the obvious benefits, but still we tried to show him, a bit like life reallly, you can only show someone the right door to walk through, you can even open the door for them, but in the end there the one who must take the steps to walk through it, sigh!

Reply to uther39

Mangotango wrote :

Hi all,

Im looking buying a new gaming Pc, my budget is about £400, i have looked at a few websites and theres three Pc's i like the look of but i dont know which one is best for games, im looking at playing stuff like Cities in Motion, CoD black ops and crysis 2. (not at max settings obviously)

These are the three i liked:

http://www.cube247.co.uk/products. [...] apella+GT4

http://www.ukgamingcomputers.co.uk [...] p-128.html

http://www.ramcsuk.co.uk/epages/es [...] oducts/008

What do you think?

cheers.

I can ship the following to you for £399 with 3YR warranty

XFX HD 5770 1GB Single Slot Cooler Edition 850MHz Dual DVI DisplayPort PCI-E Graphics Card
Coolermaster Elite 330 Case With Coolermaster eXtreme Power 500W PSU
Asrock N68C-S UCC GeForce 7025 Socket AM2+ VGA Out 6 Channel Audio mATX Motherboard
2 x Kingston DDR3 2GB 1333MHz i5 Memory Module CL9 1.5V
AMD Athlon II X3 450 3.2GHz Socket AM3 95w 1.5MB L2 Cache Retail Boxed Processor
Samsung HD103SJ Spinpoint F3 1TB Hard Drive SATAII 7200rpm 32MB Cache
LG GH22NS50 22x DVD±RW DL & RAM SATA Optical Drive - OEM Black

I work as a tech in a school and we have a 'hobby' company building systems for people, FB 'core systems' to see. Don't make much money, but we enjoy it!

Regards
JP

Reply to joeythellama

Thanks but the motherboard is only am2+ and I can get almost the same pc from one of the above for less money with a quad core, I appreciate everyone telling me to build my own and I have built my own in the past, I just felt like buying a pre built one this time, I dont really get time to build them these days.

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Reply to Mangotango

Mangotango wrote :

Thanks but the motherboard is only am2+ and I can get almost the same pc from one of the above for less money with a quad core, I appreciate everyone telling me to build my own and I have built my own in the past, I just felt like buying a pre built one this time, I dont really get time to build them these days.

No problem, sorry if I did not make this clear, AM2+ is the same as AM3, our systems are fully built and tested for 24 hrs before we ship, we can usually get these chips to at least 3.5ghz on stock cooling and some unlock to quads.

Reply to joeythellama

Am2 is not the same as am3, and unlocking to quad core invalidates warranty.

Reply to Mangotango

Almost correct, AM 2 is indeed not the same as AM3, but as far as RAM and CPU support, AM2 + is, AM2+ just allows the support of older CPU's and DDR2 and DDR3, the board I quoted you supports 2 sticks of each making it an excellent upgrader's board.

As far was warranty goes it's irrelevant as 1) I have never had a CPU fail in 10 years regardless of OC-ing and unlocking, and 2) the manufacturers just send you another one anyway, they really don't care. Biggest problem with CPU's is physically damaging it during build.

Anyway, I hope you get the system you want, just watch the case/PSU on the cheaper deals as you really do not want a cheap PSU as they really can cause problems, most other stuff is really very, very reliable these days.

Reply to joeythellama

Thanks for the reply, I know theres a difference in ht speeds with am2+ and am3, plus the pin configuration, you can bet that the next gen of processors will be am3 and am3+ backwards compatible but not am2+.i just think about upgrade ability alot and as for the parts, they must be certified and if they do go on me I just get them replaced fire free without having to do my own fault finding or have to hassle about removing parts to send back.id just send the whole thing back

Reply to Mangotango

You really do know how to win friends and influence people don't you?

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