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I am using PaintShop PRO 9 for all my "8-bit" work (8-bit per color channel)
when using sRGB. It's a convinient package when working with digital images
(also comes with a RAW file converter).

Now I heard about a new version called PaintShop PRO X that supposedly
supports 16-bit for most of its tools. I also heard that it should ship
around mid of September '05. Yesterday, I checked Corel's web site but could
not find anything. Does anybody know whether PSP X with 16-bit is a reality?

Gregor

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On Sat, 03 Sep 2005 23:01:32 GMT, "GTO" <gregor_o@NOSPAMyahoo.com>
wrote:

>I am using PaintShop PRO 9 for all my "8-bit" work (8-bit per color channel)
>when using sRGB. It's a convinient package when working with digital images
>(also comes with a RAW file converter).
>
>Now I heard about a new version called PaintShop PRO X that supposedly
>supports 16-bit for most of its tools. I also heard that it should ship
>around mid of September '05. Yesterday, I checked Corel's web site but could
>not find anything. Does anybody know whether PSP X with 16-bit is a reality?
>
>Gregor
>

Check here (link's likely wrapped):

http://www.corel.com/servlet/Satel [...] R1&nonav=2

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Thanks. Your link works great. What I do not understand is why I cannot link
to it from their main page. Corel seems not to try to sell PSP X to all
users of PSP 9. I also did not receive any mail or e-mail about this upgrade
although the old company, JASC Inc., had my mailing information. I would
image that a 16-bit full-featured editing tool that supports color
management is a great thing to sell. I hope it supports Adobe RGB and
Nikon's encrypted WB in their new NEF files.

Gregor

"Bill M" <bwmeck@removethis.starpower.net> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 03 Sep 2005 23:01:32 GMT, "GTO" <gregor_o@NOSPAMyahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
>>I am using PaintShop PRO 9 for all my "8-bit" work (8-bit per color
>>channel)
>>when using sRGB. It's a convinient package when working with digital
>>images
>>(also comes with a RAW file converter).
>>
>>Now I heard about a new version called PaintShop PRO X that supposedly
>>supports 16-bit for most of its tools. I also heard that it should ship
>>around mid of September '05. Yesterday, I checked Corel's web site but
>>could
>>not find anything. Does anybody know whether PSP X with 16-bit is a
>>reality?
>>
>>Gregor
>>
>
> Check here (link's likely wrapped):
>
> http://www.corel.com/servlet/Satel [...] R1&nonav=2
>

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Thinking about NEF, I always thought it stands for Nikon Electronic Format.
But maybe, it stands for Nikon Encrypted Format ;-)

"GTO" <gregor_o@NOSPAMyahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Thanks. Your link works great. What I do not understand is why I cannot
> link to it from their main page. Corel seems not to try to sell PSP X to
> all users of PSP 9. I also did not receive any mail or e-mail about this
> upgrade although the old company, JASC Inc., had my mailing information. I
> would image that a 16-bit full-featured editing tool that supports color
> management is a great thing to sell. I hope it supports Adobe RGB and
> Nikon's encrypted WB in their new NEF files.
>
> Gregor
>
> "Bill M" <bwmeck@removethis.starpower.net> wrote in message
> news:mhekh11ncsils140ulfkbbpe661q3kmtsc@4ax.com...
>> On Sat, 03 Sep 2005 23:01:32 GMT, "GTO" <gregor_o@NOSPAMyahoo.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>I am using PaintShop PRO 9 for all my "8-bit" work (8-bit per color
>>>channel)
>>>when using sRGB. It's a convinient package when working with digital
>>>images
>>>(also comes with a RAW file converter).
>>>
>>>Now I heard about a new version called PaintShop PRO X that supposedly
>>>supports 16-bit for most of its tools. I also heard that it should ship
>>>around mid of September '05. Yesterday, I checked Corel's web site but
>>>could
>>>not find anything. Does anybody know whether PSP X with 16-bit is a
>>>reality?
>>>
>>>Gregor
>>>
>>
>> Check here (link's likely wrapped):
>>
>> http://www.corel.com/servlet/Satel [...] R1&nonav=2
>>
>
>

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On Sun, 04 Sep 2005 00:30:38 GMT, "GTO" <gregor_o@NOSPAMyahoo.com>
wrote:

>Thanks. Your link works great. What I do not understand is why I cannot link
>to it from their main page. Corel seems not to try to sell PSP X to all
>users of PSP 9. I also did not receive any mail or e-mail about this upgrade
>although the old company, JASC Inc., had my mailing information. I would
>image that a 16-bit full-featured editing tool that supports color
>management is a great thing to sell. I hope it supports Adobe RGB and
>Nikon's encrypted WB in their new NEF files.
>
>Gregor

Frequently, people will tell the company to not email them about
anything when they register. Is this maybe what you did?
I got email about PSP X.

--
Bill Funk
Replace "g" with "a"
funktionality.blogspot.com

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GTO wrote:
> I am using PaintShop PRO 9 for all my "8-bit" work (8-bit per color
> channel) when using sRGB. It's a convinient package when working with
> digital images (also comes with a RAW file converter).
>
> Now I heard about a new version called PaintShop PRO X that supposedly
> supports 16-bit for most of its tools. I also heard that it should
> ship around mid of September '05. Yesterday, I checked Corel's web
> site but could not find anything. Does anybody know whether PSP X
> with 16-bit is a reality?
> Gregor

Yes, there is a new Paint Shop Pro, but the upgrade has only been offered
to people in North America so far. As a registered user in the UK, I have
had no notification of the upgrade, nor a chance to take part in public
beta testing as happened when JASC owned the software. Private beta
testers are not yet coming forward (NDA) and saying whether they think the
new version is worth upgrading to. Corel even appears to consider it
necessary to tempt people to pay for the upgrade by including a "free
camera strap" with the upgrade. To me, that questions the value of the
upgrade itself. So far, only the camera strap has been delivered.

I wish I could be more positive about software I used to trust.

David

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"GTO" wrote
>
> Now I heard about a new version called PaintShop PRO X that supposedly
> supports 16-bit for most of its tools. I also heard that it should ship
> around mid of September '05. Yesterday, I checked Corel's web site but
> could not find anything. Does anybody know whether PSP X with 16-bit is a
> reality?
>

Hi Gregor,

There was a promotional a few weeks back that was sent out to North American
'registered' users. In otherwords you may have bought PSP but if you never
bothered registering you would not have gotten the promotional for PSPX/10.
Also as another poster mentioned you may have registered but opted at that
time not to receive emails in the future thus opting not to get the PSPX/10
promotional.

According to the promo temp webiste PSPX has 16-bit and internal (instead of
Windows like previous versions) color management. Now all the people [like
all 15 of them lol] screaming about wanting 16-bit can go out and buy all
the commercial level equipment that they'll need to make full use of 16-bit
and full Color Management features.

Take care,
Linda

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On Sat, 03 Sep 2005 23:01:32 GMT, "GTO" <gregor_o@NOSPAMyahoo.com>
wrote:

>I am using PaintShop PRO 9 for all my "8-bit" work (8-bit per color channel)
>when using sRGB. It's a convinient package when working with digital images
>(also comes with a RAW file converter).

It's also faster than PS. I've used it since it was on one floppy!
-Rich

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"Rich" wrote
>
> It's also faster than PS. I've used it since it was on one floppy!
> -Rich
>

That's old!!!! I started with 4.11 if memory serves, and that was on HD 1.44
floppy.

You'll be happy to know that the temporary page for the registered user
promo (upgrade to PSPX for reduced price) stated on the Corel site that PSPX
is 50% fast on start-up and 30% faster in actual operating time. That's
always good news with graphics apps!

Take care,
Linda

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On Sun, 4 Sep 2005 20:12:12 -0300, "Linda Nieuwenstein"
<buzzball@REMOVETHIS-allstream.net> wrote:

>
>"Rich" wrote
>>
>> It's also faster than PS. I've used it since it was on one floppy!
>> -Rich
>>
>
>That's old!!!! I started with 4.11 if memory serves, and that was on HD 1.44
>floppy.
>
>You'll be happy to know that the temporary page for the registered user
>promo (upgrade to PSPX for reduced price) stated on the Corel site that PSPX
>is 50% fast on start-up and 30% faster in actual operating time. That's
>always good news with graphics apps!
>
>Take care,
>Linda
>

Thanks for the info!
-Rich

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Linda Nieuwenstein wrote:
[]
> You'll be happy to know that the temporary page for the registered
> user promo (upgrade to PSPX for reduced price) stated on the Corel
> site that PSPX is 50% fast on start-up and 30% faster in actual
> operating time. That's always good news with graphics apps!

Linda,

50% better startup wouldn't be difficult - it could take nearly a minute
to start PSP9 on my system. It is by far the slowest application I have.
(And you'll know I've spent some time trying to resolve this problem). It
also shows there was something seriously not optimised with PSP9.

30% faster operating time doesn't quite square with 16-bit editing
though - there's twice as much data to move around. My guess is that some
of that 30% comes from re-organising the menus so that operations like
"one step photo fix" are a single-click away rather than two, and that the
more advanced options in (for example) Digital Camera Noise Reduction are
hidden away to discourage people from trying them.

We'll see once people who have paid for the product actually receive it.

David

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"GTO" <gregor_o@NOSPAMyahoo.com> wrote in message
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>I am using PaintShop PRO 9 for all my "8-bit" work (8-bit per color
>channel) when using sRGB. It's a convinient package when working with
>digital images (also comes with a RAW file converter).
>
> Now I heard about a new version called PaintShop PRO X that supposedly
> supports 16-bit for most of its tools. I also heard that it should ship
> around mid of September '05. Yesterday, I checked Corel's web site but
> could not find anything. Does anybody know whether PSP X with 16-bit is a
> reality?
>
> Gregor
>
>
Yes, I still use ver 5! I'm pretty much hands off with my photos. I may
crop, adjust contrast and gamma and sharpen, but not much else. I do wish it
had a good histogram control. I'm familiar with ver 7 (we have it at work).
It is very slow in comparison, but has better control.

Now that Correl owns PSP, I hope they don't turn it in to a bloated toad
that requires patches every week and is locked to the machine with
encryption keys. YUCK!
John

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On Mon, 05 Sep 2005 07:49:36 GMT, "David J Taylor"
<david-taylor@blueyonder.co.not-this-bit.nor-this-part.uk.invalid>
wrote:

>Linda Nieuwenstein wrote:
>[]
>> You'll be happy to know that the temporary page for the registered
>> user promo (upgrade to PSPX for reduced price) stated on the Corel
>> site that PSPX is 50% fast on start-up and 30% faster in actual
>> operating time. That's always good news with graphics apps!
>
>Linda,
>
>50% better startup wouldn't be difficult - it could take nearly a minute
>to start PSP9 on my system. It is by far the slowest application I have.
>(And you'll know I've spent some time trying to resolve this problem). It
>also shows there was something seriously not optimised with PSP9.

I just tried starting PSP9 on my system (AMD XP 3200+, XP Pro SP2, 1GB
RAM) from a fresh reboot (nothing cached in RAM) and it took under 15
seconds. A restart took 9 seconds.
Maybe there's something not optimized in your system?
>
>30% faster operating time doesn't quite square with 16-bit editing
>though - there's twice as much data to move around. My guess is that some
>of that 30% comes from re-organising the menus so that operations like
>"one step photo fix" are a single-click away rather than two, and that the
>more advanced options in (for example) Digital Camera Noise Reduction are
>hidden away to discourage people from trying them.
>
>We'll see once people who have paid for the product actually receive it.

I'm certainly looking forward to it.
I can't afford (or justify) PhotoShop.
>
>David
>

--
Bill Funk
Replace "g" with "a"
funktionality.blogspot.com

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On Mon, 05 Sep 2005 07:49:36 GMT, "David J Taylor"
<david-taylor@blueyonder.co.not-this-bit.nor-this-part.uk.invalid> wrote:

> Linda Nieuwenstein wrote:
> []
> > You'll be happy to know that the temporary page for the registered
> > user promo (upgrade to PSPX for reduced price) stated on the Corel
> > site that PSPX is 50% fast on start-up and 30% faster in actual
> > operating time. That's always good news with graphics apps!
>
> Linda,
>
> 50% better startup wouldn't be difficult - it could take nearly a minute
> to start PSP9 on my system. It is by far the slowest application I have.
> (And you'll know I've spent some time trying to resolve this problem). It
> also shows there was something seriously not optimised with PSP9.
>
> 30% faster operating time doesn't quite square with 16-bit editing
> though - there's twice as much data to move around. My guess is that some
> of that 30% comes from re-organising the menus so that operations like
> "one step photo fix" are a single-click away rather than two, and that the
> more advanced options in (for example) Digital Camera Noise Reduction are
> hidden away to discourage people from trying them.
>
> We'll see once people who have paid for the product actually receive it.
>
> David
>

From the Web site:
Paint Shop Pro X is up to 50% faster than previous versions
You'll be happy to know that NEW Paint Shop Pro X has a 30% faster startup time,
the ability to work faster on large photos, and near-instant undo and redo. Plus
the NEW Learning Center organizes tools in a logical way, so you'll be able to
get started as soon as you double-click the Paint Shop Pro icon.

--
David: NorthWest England
Claim nothing;enjoy