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Which Radeon HD 6670 should I get for the price?

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Hello! I'm planning on purchasing a new graphics card for my pc. I'm stuck on deciding which card I should get for the best price. My budget range is around $ 75~100.

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Produ [...] 6814121442 or http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Produ [...] 6814150542

And would these cards work with a 250 watt psu?

The current card that I am using is a crappy Nvidia Geforce 210 and my monitor resolution is 1680x1050 if that helps.


Message edited by ichikara on 01-09-2012 at 01:11:56 AM
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What is your brand name of your PSU? Both cards are good the first one has a better cooler on it the XFX is a single slot GPU. That one would be used if you didn't have enough room on your expanston slots. Here is a link to help calculate what size PSU you need. The first one simple and the second one more complexed.

http://educations.newegg.com/tool/psucalc/index.html

http://extreme.outervision.com/psucalculatorlite.jsp

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DM186 wrote :

What is your brand name of your PSU? Both cards are good the first one has a better cooler on it the XFX is a single slot GPU. That one would be used if you didn't have enough room on your expanston slots. Here is a link to help calculate what size PSU you need. The first one simple and the second one more complexed.

http://educations.newegg.com/tool/psucalc/index.html

http://extreme.outervision.com/psucalculatorlite.jsp


The brand name of my psu is Bestec. This is the one http://www.power-on.com/atx12v250bt.html

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That PSU sorry to say is not a good one. But that is not the problem even if it were good then it still would not be enough. According to AMD the min requirments for that card is 400w PSU. Here is a link showing the stats.

http://www.amd.com/us/products/des [...] iew.aspx#3

Here is a 500w PSU It is a good brand name along with Antec, Seasonic, and Corsair. If you want a 400w then when you are on the web site at top where is says product of numger just type 440w and hit serch. I should bring up all the 400w PSU's

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6817371035

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Oh, and if this helps this is my computer specs.

Windows 7 Ultimate 32-bit
2048MB RAM DDR2
NVIDIA GeForce 210 ( Overclocked )
Intel(R) Pentium(R) Dual CPU E2180 @ 2.00GHz (2 CPUs), ~2.0GHz ( Overclocked at 2.3 GHz)
Motherboard: P5KPL-AM-SE


Message edited by ichikara on 01-09-2012 at 01:52:40 AM
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DM186 wrote :

That PSU sorry to say is not a good one. But that is not the problem even if it were good then it still would not be enough. According to AMD the min requirments for that card is 400w PSU. Here is a link showing the stats.

http://www.amd.com/us/products/des [...] iew.aspx#3

Here is a 500w PSU It is a good brand name along with Antec, Seasonic, and Corsair. If you want a 400w then when you are on the web site at top where is says product of numger just type 440w and hit serch. I should bring up all the 400w PSU's

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6817371035


D: Is there any other graphics card that you could recommend me that uses 250watt psu? And a psu from newegg.ca or tigerdirect.ca because I live in Canada.


Message edited by ichikara on 01-09-2012 at 02:15:55 AM
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You are very limited as to what type of GPU you can get. On the Nvidia side zero. Now on the AMD side I think in the 4xxx series but I am not sure. I don't know the AMD side of GPU's very well. Maybe someone might jump in and help. I will continue to look.

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Your new card takes a good 4-5 times the power of the current one. I have used the same power supply with light cards(think 4350, and you dont want to game on that).

 

I would put you very close for that unit. It only delivers about 170 watts of 12 volt power.

 

Your card of choice will take off about 40(games only 10 at idle) of that and up to 60 at high load.

 

The cpu is rated at 65 watts. While I bet it takes less(and much less at idle). You see what is happening right? we are getting upwards to the end of what that power supply will deliver.

 

I run some pretty close limits systems(or some would say), but even i would be a bit worried about it.

 

The big issue here is that the power supply is question does not deliver much 12 volt power(about 170 watts). With even 200, it would generally be in range of being safe for your system.

 

AMD's recommendation of a 400 watt power supply honestly assumes a real bad power supply and fully loaded system.

 

I personally run an

 

H55N USB3 mini itx
i5 750 - undervolted
1TB drive - Western Digital Blue
2 sticks of ddr3 @ 1.65 volts
AMD 5770 :) (needs a 450 watt power supply)
SlimDVD

 

All off a little 300 watt power supply(22 Amps or 264 watts of 12 volt) and never even push 200 watts from the wall. Games average 140-170. I built this system around the power supply limit not the other way around.

 

But i have a hard time recommending you do this because, your system may just be too much for that power supply.

 

Bottom line. Even I think a new power supply is in order. A good quality 300(like something from seasonic) will run the system without working too hard, but you should go a bit higher for longer lasting system/power supply.

 

Remember, the 12 volt rail(s) are the most important thing in a modern power supply and you can not just add all together when there is more then one. There is generally a listed max combined.

 

Not all 250 watt power supplies are created the same

 

Here are 2 300 watt units

 

180 watts on its 12 volt rail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6817159041

 

288 watts on its 12 volt rail(s)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6817151085

 

I posted that in an attempt to show how 300 watts is not always a usable 300 watts.

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Message edited by nukemaster on 01-09-2012 at 02:26:50 AM
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http://tinyurl.com/5v55wk - C2 Mem performance? http://tinyurl.com/6pmbke - SLI/Xfire?
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nukemaster wrote :

Your new card takes a good 4-5 times the power of the current one. I have used the same power supply with light cards(think 4350, and you dont want to game on that).

I would put you very close for that unit. It only delivers about 170 watts of 12 volt power.

Your card of choice will take off about 40(games only 10 at idle) of that and up to 60 at high load.

The cpu is rated at 65 watts. While I bet it takes less(and much less at idle). You see what is happening right? we are getting upwards to the end of what that power supply will deliver.

I run some pretty close limits systems(or some would say), but even i would be a bit worried about it.

The big issue here is that the power supply is question does not deliver much 12 volt power(about 170 watts). With even 200, it would generally be in range of being safe for your system.

AMD's recommendation of a 400 watt power supply honestly assumes a real bad power supply and fully loaded system.

I personally run an

H55N USB3 mini itx
i5 750 - undervolted
1TB drive - Western Digital Blue
2 sticks of ddr3 @ 1.65 volts
AMD 5770 :) (needs a 450 watt power supply)
SlimDVD

All off a little 300 watt power supply(22 Amps or 264 watts of 12 volt) and never even push 200 watts from the wall. Games average 140-170. I built this system around the power supply limit not the other way around.

But i have a hard time recommending you do this because, your system may just be too much for that power supply.

Bottom line. Even I think a new power supply is in order. A good quality 300(like something from seasonic) will run the system without working too hard, but you should go a bit higher for longer lasting system/power supply.

Remember, the 12 volt rail(s) are the most important thing in a modern power supply and you can not just add all together when there is more then one. There is generally a listed max combined. Not all 250 watt power supplies are created the same



Hmm. I guess I should get a better psu. Around 400 watts. But first I got to find out how to replace it.

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If you guys are wondering what my current graphics card is like. Here are the specs.
http://img833.imageshack.us/img833/4559/specs.gif

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I edited in some more info above.

 

Power supply replacement is generally straight forward.

 

All the plugs are designed to fit in one place(well there are multiple drive power cables, but any one will power a drive).

 

There is also only 4 screws that hold the thing in.

 

You have to be careful when removing plugs, and if unsure, just tape a label to each thing so you know where it was unplugged from.

 

If you are looking at power supplies, please post what you are looking at. There are allot of bad ones out there. You do not want to have to find out the hard way.

 

If you are on a budget, maybe this. It is very basic model from Antec , but is rated at 384 watts on 12 volts.

 

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6817371023

 

For me personally the unit linked above(by DM186) is better and has a rebate making it not too much more expensive.

 

With that, you can get a better video card if you wish as well.


Message edited by nukemaster on 01-09-2012 at 02:40:30 AM
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http://tinyurl.com/5v55wk - C2 Mem performance? http://tinyurl.com/6pmbke - SLI/Xfire?
http://tinyurl.com/yjldsrw - No Boot?
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Thanks for the help. Would this one work well? http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Produ [...] 6817171046
Keep in mind I am from Canada so it would be very helpful if you guys check out the Canadian websites.


Message edited by ichikara on 01-09-2012 at 02:59:33 AM
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While it has less power(324) then the Antec Basiq(384), it should be fine(everyone has a budget). Your system is not overclocked that far.

 

The power supply seems to lack a 6 pin pci-e power connector, so your new card will be fine(it does not need one), but no 6770 in the future.

 

You will note some reviews on newegg saying it is in fact a 400 watt power supply, that is very true(much closer to a 350 watt in modern terms).

 

I just notice you are going newegg.ca

 

lets go see what ncix.com has shall we....

 

will edit in if i find anything cool.

 

Same thing, same price(but may cost more to ship, not sure). A 10 dollar rebate as well...
http://ncix.com/products/index.php [...] omoid=1297

 

Not much else in a low price range, well there is a 350 watt seasonic(Same 12volt wattage as the coolermaster 460). It also lacks the pci-e plug
http://ncix.com/products/?mode=pro [...] t_id=30144

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http://tinyurl.com/5v55wk - C2 Mem performance? http://tinyurl.com/6pmbke - SLI/Xfire?
http://tinyurl.com/yjldsrw - No Boot?
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nukemaster wrote :

While it has less power(324) then the Antec Basiq(384), it should be fine(everyone has a budget). Your system is not overclocked that far.

 

The power supply seems to lack a 6 pin pci-e power connector, so your new card will be fine(it does not need one), but no 6770 in the future.

 

You will note some reviews on newegg saying it is in fact a 400 watt power supply, that is very true(much closer to a 350 watt in modern terms).

 

I just notice you are going newegg.ca

 

lets go see what ncix.com has shall we....

 

will edit in if i find anything cool.


Hehe. Look what I found. A cheap 500w.
http://ncix.ca/products/?sku=55855 [...] omoid=1297

 

This one that you mentioned also is very good for the price. I might consider getting this. http://ncix.com/products/index.php [...] omoid=1297


Message edited by ichikara on 01-09-2012 at 03:17:55 AM
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^+1
I agree with nuke even though it is not ranked up there but it will do you good to get a GPU either the one you listed or a Nvidia GT 440 maybe even the GT520. Just don't OC them with that PSU. This one would be the one to get if your budget would allow. Anyway good luck to you.

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Produ [...] 6817371029

Here is the PSU list of Good to worst.

http://www.eggxpert.com/forums/thread/323050.aspx


Message edited by DM186 on 01-09-2012 at 03:17:54 AM
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I am not always a fan of powercolor and a review states highish ripple(yet still within the specs) on the 12 and 5 volt lines, but I doubt you will push too much past half load on the thing anyway(based on my own systems).

 

The 1 year warranted is not that impressive, but should have no problems with powering your current system with the new card. Not going to call it top end, but should work.

 

@ DM186

 

That list seems to get better. I remember when it started that has some units on a different tier then the actual makers unit. This was when they happened to be the SAME thing. There was a lot of brand only labeling back then too.


Message edited by nukemaster on 01-09-2012 at 03:30:43 AM
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http://tinyurl.com/yfmxdc9 - Part Guide? http://tinyurl.com/5zk6me - VGA power?
http://tinyurl.com/5v55wk - C2 Mem performance? http://tinyurl.com/6pmbke - SLI/Xfire?
http://tinyurl.com/yjldsrw - No Boot?
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Since I would not change the psu like every once a year. Mind as well get a good one. I'd prob get the one that DM186 mentioned. http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Produ [...] 6817371029


Message edited by ichikara on 01-09-2012 at 03:35:44 AM
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@ 360 watts on its 12 volt rail(s) it again, is more then a match for your current system with its new card(or even a 6770 :) ).

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http://tinyurl.com/yfmxdc9 - Part Guide? http://tinyurl.com/5zk6me - VGA power?
http://tinyurl.com/5v55wk - C2 Mem performance? http://tinyurl.com/6pmbke - SLI/Xfire?
http://tinyurl.com/yjldsrw - No Boot?
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Would this one be considered good? http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Produ [...] 6817371016
550watts. That is more than I need though.


Message edited by ichikara on 01-09-2012 at 03:52:53 AM
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What nuke is stating is that it is more than a match he means it is to good. Yes to your answer the 550 is very nice one probley more than what you need. Thing is unless you plan on upgrading your CPU later down the line so you can up grade to a even better GPU then get it.

What I mean by upgrading your CPU is it is a dual core and after you get to a certen point with the GPU's than it will start ot bottleneck in which case it will loose power on the GPU. But eveything is up to you.

@nuke Ya that list is quite a few years ago. I got it from somebody who has the same start date you have 1970. I was 10 then. I know you didn't start then because computers then took up a huge room. Just funny.

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I see your BP550 and raise you one Antec NEO ECO 520C :) not modular

 

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Produ [...] 6817371030

 

The BP550 will work, Did not even know that had it with modular cables.

 

Overkill? yes
Bad idea? No, You are at the point of being able to get far better video or a new cpu down the road now.

 

@ DM186 The 1970 is a bug from when they redid the forums. Did you know Kodak invented the digital cam in 1975 :) Never selling it because it would kill the film that made them money for years(and it is huge).
http://laughingsquid.com/the-first [...] mera-1975/


Message edited by nukemaster on 01-09-2012 at 04:13:14 AM
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http://tinyurl.com/5v55wk - C2 Mem performance? http://tinyurl.com/6pmbke - SLI/Xfire?
http://tinyurl.com/yjldsrw - No Boot?
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Oh I found this one which is a Corsair brand 500w. It seems to me that it is what I need. $44. Meets my budget. http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applicat [...] u=C13-2812

I'll also consider upgrading my ram to 4gb along with a new graphics card. And since i'm planning on getting a new psu mind as well get a higher grade graphics card.

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Message edited by ichikara on 01-09-2012 at 04:43:23 AM
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@ nuke Now that is cool. Now I am going to share with family and friends. Hey thanks and thanks for helping out with this OP.

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ichikara wrote :

Oh I found this one which is a Corsair brand 500w. It seems to me that it is what I need. $44. Meets my budget. http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applicat [...] u=C13-2812

 

I'll also consider upgrading my ram to 4gb along with a new graphics card. And since i'm planning on getting a new psu mind as well get a higher grade graphics card.

 

408 watts on the 12 volt rail. more then enough for you :)

 

Corsair makes good stuff(Ok they have others make good stuff for them in this case)

 

Looks like Tiger has dropped shipping rates quite a bit. 8.17 for basic shipping(at least to my location). I remember a 30 dollar item with like 40 dollar shipping(so i waited for a sale...)....no clue why.

 

@DM186, I know....NERD right?


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@ nuke yelper's :bounce:

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