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iJoseeeph   02-08-2012 at 02:55:52 AM

Computer Rig~~
Intel 2500k $193
http://cart.microcenter.com/cart.a [...] p%3a%2f%2f
Antec 900 $100
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6811129021
750W PS $105
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6817139021
GTX 560 $190
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814130660
MoBo $190
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6813128506
RAM 50
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6820233180
Storage 100
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 58Computer


Approximate Purchase Date:Marchish
Budget Range: 800-1000
System Usage from Most to Least Important:Gaming, Internet Surfing, school
Parts Not Required: Monitor, Keyboard, Mouse, Operating System
Preferred Website(s) for Parts: Newegg, MicroCenter, tiger direct
Country: Usa
Parts Preferences: A good brand
Overclocking: 100% NO
SLI or Crossfire: whats this?
Monitor Resolution: 1920x 1080

Should i just wait for the new intel and the new radeons to come in insteaD?

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r0aringdrag0n   02-08-2012 at 03:03:34 AM

Save some money on the RAM, get this RAM instead:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6820313086
The clock difference can be ignored because it'll be automatically set to 1333Mhz unless you want to OC the RAM, which will void the Intel CPU warranty, which I do NOT recommend.

I would also not recommend that graphics card, either get $30 and get the gtx 560Ti:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814130623

or save $20 and get this:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814102948

Also, if you aren't going to OC the CPU, then why get a CPU that is overclockable? Instead, save some money and get the i5 2400:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6819115074
It delivers similar performance to the i5 2500k but cannot be overclocked and is also cheaper.

You can also save some money on the motherboard. Instead of the Gigabyte motherboard, you can go with the ASRock Extreme 3 Gen3 Z68:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6813157271
It's cheaper but has loads of features such as 2PCIe 3.0 slots for upgrading in the future.

SLI/CF: It means that you use 2 same graphics cards (or very similar) and put them together to form a single more powerful graphics unit. The board you choose and the ASRock board supports SLI and CF.

As for waiting...it's up to you. We really don't know how the new components are going to perform in real life. You can wait and see, or buy now

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kajabla   02-08-2012 at 03:49:21 AM

^All the above advice is good, except that you should get the 2500K (see below). On SLI/Xfire: you should get a single, powerful graphics card now and build your other parts around the possibility of adding another card in the future. This means a decent PSU and a mobo that can handle it. SLI/Xfire is the easiest upgrade you can do if you plan for it when you choose your other parts.

 

Why the heck don't you want to overclock? With the 2500K it's easy, safe and very rewarding. You can even stay covered, if you really want to, with Intel's new OCing protection plan, though it's unnecessary. When the chip starts to feel balky in a couple of years you can easily stretch it to 4.3ghz or so, and it'll be like getting a whole new processor for free. OCing doesn't have to mean trophy OCing, the practice of messing around with voltage and cooling and such to get the maximum possible clock out of your chip.

 

On another note, I'd recommend waiting a month and then doing this again. There should be several significant new products coming out in the next month—the beginning of the Nvidia 600 series and maybe Ivy Bridge as well (or is that April?).

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somekidxd   02-08-2012 at 03:56:17 AM

http://budgetcomputershelp.wordpress.com/ Read this. At the bottom there is a list. Also, the Intel 520 SSD looks really promising right now, so you can check that out.


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kajabla   02-08-2012 at 03:57:29 AM

^...with a PSU that can handle two 570s.

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bliq   02-08-2012 at 04:12:20 AM

Intel Core i5-2500K $179.99
http://www.microcenter.com/single_ [...] id=0354589

P8Z68-V PRO/GEN3 LGA 1155 Z68 ATX Intel Motherboard $159 after $50 bundle savings
http://www.microcenter.com/single_ [...] id=0378094

8GB HyperX DDR3-1333 $29.99
http://www.microcenter.com/single_ [...] id=0360526

500GB Caviar Blue $99.99
http://www.microcenter.com/single_ [...] id=0352164

LG 22x DVD-RW 16.99
http://www.microcenter.com/single_ [...] id=0372836

6950PE52GB AMD Radeon HD 6950 2048MB GDDR5 PCIe 2.1 Video Card $220 + $20 rebate
http://www.microcenter.com/single_ [...] id=0376943

BitFenix Merc Alpha $34.99
http://www.microcenter.com/single_ [...] id=0382963

PC Power & Cooling Silencer Mk3 600W Modular $64.99 after $20 rebate
http://www.microcenter.com/single_ [...] id=0380192


~806 + $40 in rebates

I find it's pretty hard to beat Microcenter if an i5-2500K or i7-2600K is in your future thanks to their bundle savings and ridiculously low CPU prices.


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Outlander_04   02-08-2012 at 04:12:37 AM

If you are not OCing then drop to the i5 2400

upgrade the graphics to a 560 ti or Radeon 6950

The Antec 900 case is out dated . Even the 900 two is outdated . Perhaps save money here with the new Antec 300 two which is the same size , and has front usb 3 ports

Definitely dont need 750 watts .

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iJoseeeph   02-08-2012 at 04:55:48 AM

kajabla wrote :

^All the above advice is good, except that you should get the 2500K (see below). On SLI/Xfire: you should get a single, powerful graphics card now and build your other parts around the possibility of adding another card in the future. This means a decent PSU and a mobo that can handle it. SLI/Xfire is the easiest upgrade you can do if you plan for it when you choose your other parts.

Why the heck don't you want to overclock? With the 2500K it's easy, safe and very rewarding. You can even stay covered, if you really want to, with Intel's new OCing protection plan, though it's unnecessary. When the chip starts to feel balky in a couple of years you can easily stretch it to 4.3ghz or so, and it'll be like getting a whole new processor for free. OCing doesn't have to mean trophy OCing, the practice of messing around with voltage and cooling and such to get the maximum possible clock out of your chip.

On another note, I'd recommend waiting a month and then doing this again. There should be several significant new products coming out in the next month—the beginning of the Nvidia 600 series and maybe Ivy Bridge as well (or is that April?).




I don't like Ocing because I'm kind of afraid of blowing it up haha..

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iJoseeeph   02-08-2012 at 05:51:51 AM

How many watts do i really need for this rig? i assume 600W?

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r0aringdrag0n   02-08-2012 at 12:39:38 PM

iJoseeeph wrote :

I'm probably going to finalize this one
Computer Rig~~
Intel 2500k $193
http://cart.microcenter.com/cart.a [...] p%3a%2f%2f
CoolerScout80 w/ power
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Comb [...] mbo.829185
GTX 560TI $230
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814130623
or $170 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 5esxhycw9v
MoBo $120
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6813157271
RAM 36
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6820313086
Storage 100
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 58Computer


Everything there looks good. I would go with the gtx 560Ti because it is a step up above the 6870 though. Also, I would not go with that combo of case and PSU. Cooler Master doesn't always make the most reliable PSUs. Why don't you go with this case and PSU:
Case: HAF 912
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6811119233
PSU:
Antec High Current Gamer Series HCG-750
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6817371049

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kajabla   02-08-2012 at 12:53:27 PM

iJoseeeph wrote :

I don't like Ocing because I'm kind of afraid of blowing it up haha..


There is no way you can go wrong with changing the multiplier, and nothing else, on a Sandy Bridge chip. The worst thing that could happen is a BSOD, and you can just reboot when that happens. It won't happen, anyway: if you get one, it means your OC is too ambitious, and you don't have to do anything ambitious.

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Inanition02   02-08-2012 at 01:12:56 PM

Ok, so you reallly should get the mobo at Microcenter too - they have similar prices to newegg on them and if you buy a Z68 or P67 based mobo with a 2500k, you get an extra $50. That's a no brainer.

I would recommend upping it to the Extreme4 - the Extreme3 doesn't have internal headers for front USB3.0 ports which will be come important over the next few years (and may be now, if you transfer large files a lot).

This: http://www.microcenter.com/single_ [...] id=0373373 (listed at $185 - would be $135 if bought with the proc).

You could also go with a Gigabyte options, the Z68XP-UD3 ($109 if bought with proc - $10 MiR) http://www.microcenter.com/single_ [...] id=0366193

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vitornob   02-08-2012 at 02:24:22 PM

I do not like to OC too, besides I have an i7-2600k, mine is in stock condition.
But already did it sometime ago to try it, and is pretty much easy.

In Asus motherboards (I have one too), the OC is automatic and pretty much good considering you just click a single button. And wait.

Do not be afraid of overclocking in the future, just be sure you have enough cooling.

If you want to have an open path to go SLI/Crossfire in the future, you need to change this PSU, since it have only 2* 2+6 pin PCI-E.
Considering that mid, high-end VGA needs 2 PCI-E pin, this PSU only power up one VGA.

If you gonna use only one, this PSU is ok, I think that you won't be able to proper powerup some dualcards like GTX 590/HD6990, but I don't think you go for this route in the future

------------------------------ Core i7 2600k, Asus P8Z68 Deluxe, 16GB Patriot DDR3, 2TB HD , SLI GTX 460 1GB, XFX 750W BE, 3D Vision, CM 690 II Advanced
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Inanition02   02-09-2012 at 12:36:56 AM

Looks good - I'd consider switching to GSkill on the RAM for $4 more:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6820231426

More reliable and better performance in my opinion. Good luck!

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azeem40   02-09-2012 at 12:46:39 AM

I checked Microcenter and the i5-2500k is sold out?

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Why_Me   02-09-2012 at 12:56:52 AM

iJoseeeph wrote :

Computer Rig~~
Intel 2500k $193
http://cart.microcenter.com/cart.a [...] p%3a%2f%2f
Antec 900 $100
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6811129021
750W PS $105
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6817139021
GTX 560 $190
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814130660
MoBo $190
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6813128506
RAM 50
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6820233180
Storage 100
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 58Computer


Approximate Purchase Date:Marchish
Budget Range: 800-1000
System Usage from Most to Least Important:Gaming, Internet Surfing, school
Parts Not Required: Monitor, Keyboard, Mouse, Operating System
Preferred Website(s) for Parts: Newegg, MicroCenter, tiger direct
Country: Usa
Parts Preferences: A good brand
Overclocking: 100% NO
SLI or Crossfire: whats this?
Monitor Resolution: 1920x 1080

Should i just wait for the new intel and the new radeons to come in insteaD?


http://www.amazon.com/OCZ-80PLUS-B [...] 341&sr=1-9 $99.99 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
OCZ ZS Series 750W 80PLUS Bronze High Performance Power Supply compatible with Intel Sandy Bridge Core i3 i5 i7 and AMD Phenom

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6813157271 $121.99
ASRock Z68 Extreme3 Gen3 LGA 1155 Intel Z68 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard

http://www.amazon.com/Intel-BOX806 [...] 610&sr=1-2 $219.99 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
Intel Core i5-2500K Processor

http://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Maste [...] gy_e_img_c $24.39 & eligible for FREE Super Saver Shipping on orders over $25
Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus 120mm Sleeve CPU Cooler, RR-B10-212P-G1

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6820220570 $41.99 FREE SHIPPING
Patriot Signature 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory with heatshield Model PSD38G1600KH

http://www.amazon.com/Asus-24xDVD% [...] pd_vtp_e_4 $22.88 & eligible for FREE Super Saver Shipping on orders over $25
Asus 24xDVD±RW Serial ATA Internal OEM Drive DRW-24B1ST (Black)

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814125401 $209.99
GIGABYTE GV-N560UD-1G GeForce GTX 560 Ti (Fermi) 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card

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Why_Me   02-09-2012 at 06:57:01 AM

iJoseeeph wrote :

Computer Rig~~
Intel 2500k $193
http://cart.microcenter.com/cart.a [...] p%3a%2f%2f
MoBo $132
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6813131773
Case
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6811119233
PSU
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6817371051
GTX 560TI $230
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814130623
RAM 40
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6820233144
Storage 100
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 58Computer


That board isn't meant for dual vid cards. It's a single card board. It runs dual cards @ 4x. Also that psu is weak. Look at the Antec HCG 750w for $100 and free shipping, or the OCZ ZS 750w for $100 and free shipping.

For a board look at the one I posted....the Asrock extreme3 Gen3 for $121.

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