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[Solved] My first build... Need constructive criticism

Forum Homebuilt Systems : New Build [Solved] My first build... Need constructive criticism

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I am looking to play games such as Diablo 3, battlefield 3, Tribes Ascend. I have an Asus 24 inch monitor, and I would like to keep the price as close to $1000 as possible.

I will be overclocking and adding an aftermarket heatsink in the future. I was hoping this case will offer enough airflow for the added heat.

Will this PSU be enough for overclocking the cpu and gpu in the future? I was trying to design this build with the idea of future Upgradability in mind. Please offer me any advice you have since I am a noob :)


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Message edited by HairBender on 02-07-2012 at 07:10:21 PM
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You can get a few things cheaper

if you live by a Micro center you can get $50 off a MOBO when you get a CPU, so im told.

CPU (179.99) not online, in store only
http://www.microcenter.com/single_ [...] id=0354589

OS (79.99) - http://www.trustprice.com/669867/m [...] -home.html

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You can't afford a fancy mobo on this budget. Get a $120 ASRock Z68 Extreme3 or a similarly priced Gigabyte Z68A-D3H-B3.

 

With the $60 you're saving right there (and even more, if you can make it to a Microcenter), you can go for a better GPU that won't cause micro-stuttering problems in Crossfire/SLI. I think a 560 Ti would be the way to go.
$215 after rebate: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814127594
or $225 (I'd take this one): http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814127565

 

You should get a PSU that can handle two of whatever GPU you end up with. A good 650W would be fine for 560 Ti SLI.
$65 after rebate: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6817341048
or $85 if you're feeling modular. It's a little less installation hassle. Worth $20? You decide. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6817341051

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Message edited by kajabla on 02-07-2012 at 08:39:38 PM
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lldsgt wrote :

You can get a few things cheaper

if you live by a Micro center you can get $50 off a MOBO when you get a CPU, so im told.

CPU (179.99) not online, in store only
http://www.microcenter.com/single_ [...] id=0354589

OS (79.99) - http://www.trustprice.com/669867/m [...] -home.html




I just contacted the Micro Center nearest to me and the i5 2500k is out of stock :( The lady did tell me that the $50 off of an Asus z68 motherboard is still being offered for the i7 and i5, but the $180 deal on the i5 ends on the 13th. Maybe they will get some more in before then hopefully. Thank you for the info on that.

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kajabla wrote :

You can't afford a fancy mobo on this budget. Get a $120 ASRock Z68 Extreme3 or a similarly priced Gigabyte Z68A-D3H-B3.

With the $60 you're saving right there (and even more, if you can make it to a Microcenter), you can go for a better GPU that won't cause micro-stuttering problems in Crossfire/SLI. I think a 560 Ti would be the way to go.
$215 after rebate: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814127594
or $225 (I'd take this one): http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814127565

You should get a PSU that can handle two of whatever GPU you end up with. A good 650W would be fine for 560 Ti SLI.
$65 after rebate: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6817341048
or $85 if you're feeling modular. It's a little less installation hassle. Worth $20? You decide. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6817341051



I agree with you on the motherboard, I was just scared to go cheaper on the motherboard because I didnt really know what the minimum specs were that I needed. I will go with the Asrock Extreme3.

I will Definitly take that 560 ti into serious consideration, I didnt realize the 6870 had that problem.

I figured seasonic was probably the best route since I notice alot of you guys on here preach to never go cheap on the power supply. But with the one you listed I will save a little bit of money.

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HairBender wrote :

I agree with you on the motherboard, I was just scared to go cheaper on the motherboard because I didnt really know what the minimum specs were that I needed. I will go with the Asrock Extreme3.

I will Definitly take that 560 ti into serious consideration, I didnt realize the 6870 had that problem.

I figured seasonic was probably the best route since I notice alot of you guys on here preach to never go cheap on the power supply. But with the one you listed I will save a little bit of money.


Personally I would go with a 750w psu for dual 560 ti's. If you were going with dual 6950's than a 650w psu would be just fine, but the 560's are not a power saving card by any means. Where those cards shine over the AMD card and their Nvidia brethren like the 570's and 580's is when it comes to over clocking. That's what the 560 series cards are all about... their ability to over clock and run cool at the same time. When you overclock your cards and your cpu then the psu comes into play. Nothing less than 750w imo.

Spend the extra $10 for 100 more watts and more amps.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6817341049 <----- like this one here for $100 and free shipping + rebates.

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Why_Me wrote :

Personally I would go with a 750w psu for dual 560 ti's. If you were going with dual 6950's than a 650w psu would be just fine, but the 560's are not a power saving card by any means. Where those cards shine over the AMD card and their Nvidia brethren like the 570's and 580's is when it comes to over clocking. That's what the 560 series cards are all about... their ability to over clock and run cool at the same time. When you overclock your cards and your cpu then the psu comes into play. Nothing less than 750w imo.

Spend the extra $10 for 100 more watts and more amps.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6817341049 <----- like this one here for $100 and free shipping + rebates.



Will I be ok with a 650w psu if I run one overclocked 560 ti and overclock the cpu?

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HairBender wrote :

Will I be ok with a 650w psu if I run one overclocked 560 ti and overclock the cpu?


For a single 560ti set up a 520w - 550w will be just fine. If that's the case then look at getting the Asrock Pro 3 Gen 3 for $110 and free shipping at newegg. It's a single card board. If you do want the option to add another one of those cards later on then stick with a dual card board like that Asrock extreme3 gen3 and go with a 750w psu.

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I seriously advise you to get SLI-capable parts. It's the easiest and cheapest upgrade you can do in a couple of years, when the single card starts feeling balky.

http://www.guru3d.com/article/gefo [...] -review/14
Cards in full stress: 450W. I don't think OCing will take you more than 50W over that.

Reply to kajabla

I recommend you wait a bit, the ivy bridge cpus and gtx 6xx are coming out in April.

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If you're willing to wait for months, you can always find something better.

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Technology moves so fast you could always wait a few months and find something better, but I am like a big kid who cant wait lol.

I will take everyone's advice on going with sli parts and a 750w psu for a dual video card upgrade in the future. Do you think the 560 ti will be available for a while?

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Yes, it will. Incidentally, as Why showed me earlier today, the 560 Ti 448 Core is a great GPU. It overclocks beautifully, almost matching the performance of a stock 580. It's a great value at $290; get it if you feel like you can spare the cash. It'll last you longer.

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Thanks for your help guys, I do believe I have made my decision and ready to place my order. :bounce:

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