Asus mobo and amd x4 965 black edition

the rig is a m4n68t-m v2 with a phenom x4 965 black edition, 8gb ddr10600 1333mhz, and a antec 300 case (6 120mm fans), stock heatsink on cpu and i did goop it with diamond 7 thermal. pny 8400 2gb dvi card. ive heard of some hitting 4.1 with the phenom. ive been raking my brains out trying to get mine even close to the 4ghz mark, i seem to get to 3.928ghz, but asus put way to many different control variables in the bios. im lost when it come to some of these values. any help would greatly be appreciated - dave

What do you mean too many variables?
The only things you need to really look at is FSB, CPU Multiplier, and CPU-NB speed.
I dont think you can go above 3.9Ghz without raising voltage.

so i read that guide and i did get the memory timing right. but im getting lost on some of the settings. i did post a pic of what it does if you set the overclock to manuel the settings in that are the lowest, just wanted to cover all bases. i cant expect a good answer without proper information(im also an auto mechanic). im also looking into water cooling this to since i know heat is the biggest killer. any ideas? also it has to be kinda quiet i have a very active two yr old and if he see something making a lot of noise its bound to be apart.

k that does seem like a good option, i was looking at the corsair h60, so any ideas on which numbers need to be tweek on this saint19?

Your mobo isn't very good for overclock, maybbe you can get around 400MHz more but always check the temps that are the important factor.

agree with them as well. I have the hydro h80 and my idle temps are 17c but when i had my h212 evo my idle temps were 22c. so not much difference at all. to go liquid cooled is for those of us who are fanatical enthusiast. just like dumping time into a car to make it go faster when it already does 0-60 in 5 sec.

ive decided to go with a h70 water cooling system, for the price i couldn't turn it down,(65.00) and it has the upgraded fans, now is the voltage at 1.65 going to be an issue for everyday use? the guy i bought the h70 off of said when it was in his system it ran at 50c all time, and mine runs at 48-50c idle and will spike to 63c on full load, i do know i have a bigger case and more fans then he had in his case. so in theory i should run cooler?