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Is this kit enough?

Forum Overclocking : Water Cooling Is this kit enough?

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Planning on purchasing a Ivy Bridge 3770k, and a AMD Radeon 7990 once they come out later this year, and was wondering if a XSPC Rasa 750 RS360 kit will be enough to water cool these two components. I am planning on doing some serious overclocking on both of these components. I am willing on upgrading to the RX360 radiator if needed, I prefer to stay with this all in one kit do to the fact that this will be my first Water Cooling build. I have a HAF X Case that i am going to be using to build my rig on. All comments and suggestions are greatly appreciated.

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Any review what i watched with that XSPC Rasa 750 RS360 was cooled just the CPU.
http://www.overclock3d.net/reviews [...] t_review/1

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You will want the RX360 kit if you are going this route as I believe the 7990's are a dual GPU card. In all honesty, you might need more radiator depending on total TDP of that card. You need to consider a waterblock w/ fittings or barbs for that card, don't forget that.

I'm not sure why you want to stick with a kit for a first build- I know a lot of people do this, but it isn't difficult to build a loop, either.

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is a putting together a custom kit that will outperform this one for $200 feasible?

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You aren't going to be able to watercool what you want now for under $200 unless the 7990 you are going to purchase already includes the waterblock already on the card. Was this your plan? If so, be advised most GPUs with pre-installed water blocks are $150-$200 more in cost than normal cards.

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Reply to rubix_1011

as of right now i am worried about putting a price range together for CPU block, Radiator, Pump, tubing, and fans for radiator.

Reply to hanselb

I understand, and you have hit the #1 limiting factor for any watercooling build- budget. Depending on how flexible this is and what your expectations are, you have some options, but it really depends on you as this is your build and your rig. Is your 7990 going to come with the waterblock on it, or are you planning on purchasing separate? I'm thinking a 7990 is going to be very expensive as-is, adding a waterblock will add to the cost, but that is inevitable in watercooling (as you are quickly finding out). If you want to go CPU only loop for now, Rasa/Raystorm kits are a great starter choice, as are some Swiftech Drive kits that utilize better pumps, namely the DDC/MCP35x. Most of these can be found for $200 or less...

It's always possible to get your CPU loop up and running and simply add the GPU block when you are ready. The 7990's will likely not be out until late Q1 or Q2 of 2012, so you have some time to budget for that in your loop as well. Again, all up to you, so don't feel like this has to be a rushed decision.

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what would be a good radiator supporting 3x120mm fans, and a pump and reservoir combo that will be able to cool both the GPU and CPU?


Message edited by hanselb on 01-17-2012 at 05:43:56 PM
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what would be a good radiator supporting 3x120mm fans


It depends- Remember, your 7990 is going to actually be a DUAL GPU card, so you essentially want to plan for a Crossfire kind of setup, which requires more radiator space.

 


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pump and reservoir combo that will be able to cool both the GPU and CPU


Again, it really depends- is it necessary to have a pump/res combo or is this personal preference? You might be able to get by on a single, thick 360 of the following: XSPC RX, Magicool Extreme, Black Ice SR1, Phoyba G-changer, Coolgate, etc. These should all support heat loads of around 600 watts with medium speed fans (1200-1800 rpm). I am estimating a TDP of around 225 watts per GPU on your 7990 and around 100 watts for your CPU for a total of 550 watts, but this is all at stock speeds...no overclocking. Otherwise, I strongly suggest an additional radiator.


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looks like i am dropping the budget, my ultimate goal will now just involve in putting a loop together that will cool all my components.

been looking at two radiators they are listed below.

http://www.frozencpu.com/products/ [...] g30c95s931

http://www.frozencpu.com/products/ [...] g30c95s161

Reply to hanselb

As stated previously, you're finding out the cost involved hehe
for a 2 card and Cpu loop you are looking at a decent outlay, and dropping the budget is not on the table I'm afraid, otherwise you will get a badly performing set up and think that W/c'ing was a waste of your time and money,
either of the 2 rads you linked or an RX360 is fine for stock set ups, but you say you want to 'seriously' overclock as well, so you need to plan in headroom for the extra heat now
Most folks seem to just throw a 360 into a Haf X, why no external rads??
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/ [...] g30c95s667
will cover your base for a hard overclock
Moto


Message edited by motopsychojdn on 01-17-2012 at 07:30:48 PM
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Reply to motopsychojdn

my original plan was to mount the radiator outside the case to improve airflow anyways, but accidentally left that part out. With such a huge radiator cooling shouldnt be an issue than, and on the plus side it isnt too expensive

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Thats why I threw it into play, as long as people realise they can actually have a rad outside the case, the options open up immensely,
and with that much radspace, you can run your fans slower, meaning a quieter system, made of win as they say :P
and its $5 more than your cheapest link hehe
Moto

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Thats just the res, the D5 is another $89, you may as well just buy the pump and a small res,
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/ [...] 100mm.html would be fine for filling/bleeding duty
you will have enough water in the loop anyhow :)
but the hex rad looks shiny
Moto

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Reply to motopsychojdn

might go with this then for the sake of keeping everything neat and compact.

http://www.frozencpu.com/products/ [...] 30c107s152

Reply to hanselb

Round about the same money, but looks better imo, nice find
Moto

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Reply to motopsychojdn

That Monsoon res doesn't come with a pump, either.

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Reply to rubix_1011

Damn, good catch Bro :)
at the bottom of the page hehe,
Note: Pump not included and required for usage!

I go back to muy original advice then, mcp655 and a 250/100ml res for bleeding,
unless he likes T-Virus resses.......
:P
Moto


Message edited by motopsychojdn on 01-17-2012 at 08:25:45 PM
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Reply to motopsychojdn

Ive decided to go with the reservoir listed below with swiftech MCP-655B pump.

http://www.frozencpu.com/products/ [...] 1033#blank

My next question is what tubing size to get and a recommended manufacturer to get it from.

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My next question is what tubing size to get and a recommended manufacturer to get it from.

This is a question we should be asking you, not the other way around.

Either 3/8"ID, 7/16"ID or 1/2"ID and appropriate fittings for the size you choose.

I've used Feser, Tygon and Primochill LRT; currently using the latter. It's a bit cheaper and flexes just as well as the others. Also available in more color choices, it seems.

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I am planning on using compression fittings for the connections inside the actual computer, but was wondering if using proper sized barbs with the hose clamps that come with a screw would be a appropriate for some of the external connections?

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You can use either compression fittings or barbs/clamps...or both. I only use barbs, but that's because I don't really want to drop $12-$15 on each fitting. Barbs work fine, and if you do it right, they can look just as nice (in my opinion). You just have to make sure you use the same size barb/fitting size for the ID of your tubing.

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Reply to rubix_1011

glad to hear it, ill go with barbs and use the adjustable clamps to save some cash.

Reply to hanselb

Your chosen reservoir appears to be a compression fitting :P
Moto


Message edited by motopsychojdn on 01-18-2012 at 07:23:21 PM
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Reply to motopsychojdn

^^ Yeah, noticed that as well...the link for the 'reservoir' is for a compression fitting...just making sure you had the right links to stuff you were wanting...

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Reply to rubix_1011

anyone got any suggestions on some good sub $10 fans for the radiator? Ive got to buy 12 for push pull set up and that can bump up the price of this whole build.

Reply to hanselb

I was going to link mine, but they are $20 in the US sorry
Moto

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Reply to motopsychojdn

2000 RPM Ultra Kaze's:

http://jab-tech.com/Scythe-ULTRA-K [...] -3939.html

or the 3000's:

http://jab-tech.com/Scythe-ULTRA-K [...] -3940.html

Be advised- they are 38mm fans vs. 25mm like most normal 120mm fans. But, excellent performance.

They are tough to find, but if you can, they are amazing. I have 2 of the 2000's and 4 of the 3000's. And, it's likely you'll only need to run push with them...no need for push/pull as they are incredibly powerful.

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Reply to rubix_1011

how would you go about daisy chaining those? I dont think my mobo will have enough 4 pin connectors for 6 fans.


Message edited by hanselb on 01-19-2012 at 05:10:36 PM
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I have a fan controller so I can dial them down...they get a bit noisy when I don't need them at full-blast. However, you can find fan splitters to molex on most modding sites if you want them at 100% at all times. I wouldn't want more than one of these fans connected to a MB header as they have a pretty significant power draw.

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Reply to rubix_1011

lol another thing I have to get, this project just keeps getting more and more expensive. Anyway that jabtech website is WAY! cheaper than frozen cpu, too bad they dont have that hexa radiator.

Reply to hanselb

rubix_1011 wrote :

You can use either compression fittings or barbs/clamps...or both. I only use barbs, but that's because I don't really want to drop $12-$15 on each fitting. Barbs work fine, and if you do it right, they can look just as nice (in my opinion). You just have to make sure you use the same size barb/fitting size for the ID of your tubing.



couldn't you also you use smaller tubing than the barbs... that is I plan on using 1/2" barbs with 3/8" tubing... cooking the tube and putting it on the barbs so it shrinks back super tight and I don't have to use any clamps

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Yeah, some people do this by dipping tubing in boiling water and sliding over barbs. Personally, I use the same ID tubing and fittings, haven't had a problem. I have used worm drive clamps and those squeeze/ratcheting clamps...currently using small zip ties. Looks very clean.

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thanks for linking the additional websites, saving me a nice amount of money. Those fans also include 3 pin to 4 pin molex converters btw.


Message edited by hanselb on 01-19-2012 at 06:07:31 PM
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Yeah, I believe you are correct. I have a whole bunch of them left over from my build.

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Reply to rubix_1011

That's quite a build you have there. Looks very nice thus far.

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