So today I found out that there's a new X2 6000+...clocked at 3.1 rather than 3.0 and is 65nm rather than 90nm....

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6819103272

Anyone know how this one fares to the older 6000+???...I got the older one like 2 months ago (and am sooo mad that this just came out...if only I had known...)

I think the one you have is probably better. you have the 90nm one with 2x1mb of l2 cache. The new 6000+, like all other 65nm brisbanes, is 2x512 l2 cache with a slightly higher clock speed to compensate with the higher cache (slightly) lower clock. The only advantage to the new one is that it's 89W instead of 125W (which means lower temps). As long as your board can handle the higher TDP, and you have decent airflow through your case, you're not losing anything by having 90nm.

Probably about the same, although the older one might be a bit faster. Remember that the 65nm chips have slower L2 cache speeds, and need a small frequency boost to overcome this. This means that a 3GHz dual core 65nm x2 should be just a bit slower then a 3GHz dual core 90nm x2. Seeing as both are so close to the 3.2-3.4GHz ceiling that the x2 has, I wouldn't expect either to overclock better.

Seeing as all should be close to the same, I'd let price/availability dictate which I get.

What about heat? Wouldn't the lower heat give it a bit more room to OC?

maybe a tad, but like 75454b said, these chips (even with proper cooling) probably won't clock past 3.4GHz. Even with liquid cooling, I'd say the best you

maybe a tad, but like 75454b said, these chips (even with proper cooling) probably won't clock past 3.4GHz. Even with liquid cooling, I'd say the best you'd get would be about 3.6Ghz

maybe a tad, but like 75454b said, these chips (even with proper cooling) probably won't clock past 3.4GHz. Even with liquid cooling, I'd say the best you'd get would be about 3.6Ghz (maybe, if you have a golden chip)

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Yeah, I don't think it's any faster than what you got. It's kinda disappointing that the Brisbane were kind of a step back from the Windsor as far as IPC. Anyway I'm waiting to see if my board will be able to take AM3 CPUs. Man if AM3 CPUs aren't compatible with my board I'm gonna be PO d.

It looks like the unofficial leaked road maps only provide 2 CPU's in December designed for boards with DDR2. They will be discontinued at the end of Q1 2009, so there's a small window for upgrades on AM2+ boards that can handle 125 watts. None of the 95 watt 45nm CPU's will support DDR2.

The later Denebs, the Propus, Hexa and Rana code named CPU's will all be DDR3, thus AM3 only. Unless the leaked road maps are wrong, it seems that AMD is running into problems getting both DDR2 and DDR3 to work with the same CPU's.

http://www.tomshardware.com/news/a [...] ,6397.html

http://www.theinquirer.net/gb/inqu [...] yule-deneb

Xbitlab's 3 weeks older article still mentions dual memory controllers on the Propus (but Propus won't have L3 cache).

http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/cpu/d [...] Chips.html

Reports like these are why I gave in and switched motherboards and CPU last weekend. The X2 4600+ was limiting my graphics card too muc