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dattimr
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08-20-2008 at 08:38:35 PM

Here it goes: http://www.theinquirer.net/gb/inqu [...] e-x86-chip

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THE HOT RUMOR going around IDF is one that we discussed a long time ago when Nvidia bought Stexar: that the company will do an x86 part. The background whispers say that the part will be announced next week at Nvision, but we don't see that happening.

The problem NV has is that both major x86 players have a lock on the technology, and they don't want any new players in the mix. NV is basically locked out unless Intel and AMD both decide to be magnanimous, and we would not recommend holding your breath waiting for this to happen.

That leaves the lawsuit option open, and again, it is hard to imagine them being that self-destructive. Any attempt to enter the market without a license would bring down Intel legal on them like flying monkeys blackening the sky. It would get ugly. Really ugly. Expensive too.

So, in the end, the rumors fly, and there might be an attempt to try. Bad rhyming poetry aside, I can't see how it would slide. The chances are slim to none. But... who knows, next week, we just might see one.



Perhaps it might get interesting.

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n°1852606
08-20-2008 at 09:58:30 PM

Poor news source. Just a week or so ago they posted a story that Nvidia was pulling out of the chipset business. Nividia not only vigorously denied it, they even demanded a retraction.

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dattimr
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n°1852609
08-20-2008 at 10:26:18 PM

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Poor news source. Just a week or so ago they posted a story that Nvidia was pulling out of the chipset business. Nividia not only vigorously denied it, they even demanded a retraction.



Many sites have reported this possibility. Guess DigiTimes was the first one. Also, don't forget that Nvidia didn't get a QPI license for Nehalem.

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n°1852610
08-20-2008 at 10:27:36 PM

This seems about right. I'm sure nVidia will atleast attempt to get an X86 license, but it will be very surprising if it works. They pretty much hit the exact truth of it, I guess the inquirer does something right every once and a while.


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n°1852616
08-20-2008 at 10:44:03 PM

hmm, long term plan they must have. short term i think they need to focus on other matters.


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n°1852618
08-20-2008 at 10:49:58 PM

nV-VIA hookup will happen eventually, and when it does I will be the first in line.

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n°1852620
08-20-2008 at 11:00:34 PM

dattimr wrote :

Many sites have reported this possibility. Guess DigiTimes was the first one. Also, don't forget that Nvidia didn't get a QPI license for Nehalem.



Wrong, nVidia has a QPI licence and in exchange X58 motherboards can have an nForce 200 chip added to allow for SLi.


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08-20-2008 at 11:15:47 PM

nVidia may want to try a x86 chip but they have to get the license from Intel to do it.

But even if they do get one I will be skepticle of their ability to produce a chip with such little experience in the field. More than likely they will go around buying technologies from the big companies like the IMC and x86-64.


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n°1852652
08-21-2008 at 12:10:18 AM

The inquirer are loosing it, they are talking about why a rumour wont happen? who cares?


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n°1852679
08-21-2008 at 01:49:36 AM

It seems a little late in the game to be getting in on x86 production. As dies continue to shrink, it'll take fewer and fewer fabs to produce the world's supply of chips. I'd imagine the competitive challenges for nVidia in this situation would arise more out of intangible goodwill sorts of concerns rather than R&D or manufacturing hurdles.

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08-21-2008 at 02:10:57 AM

dattimr wrote :

Here it goes: http://www.theinquirer.net/gb/inqu [...] e-x86-chip

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THE HOT RUMOR going around IDF is one that we discussed a long time ago when Nvidia bought Stexar: that the company will do an x86 part. The background whispers say that the part will be announced next week at Nvision, but we don't see that happening.

The problem NV has is that both major x86 players have a lock on the technology, and they don't want any new players in the mix. NV is basically locked out unless Intel and AMD both decide to be magnanimous, and we would not recommend holding your breath waiting for this to happen.

That leaves the lawsuit option open, and again, it is hard to imagine them being that self-destructive. Any attempt to enter the market without a license would bring down Intel legal on them like flying monkeys blackening the sky. It would get ugly. Really ugly. Expensive too.

So, in the end, the rumors fly, and there might be an attempt to try. Bad rhyming poetry aside, I can't see how it would slide. The chances are slim to none. But... who knows, next week, we just might see one.



Perhaps it might get interesting.



Good another player would be healthy for the industry less Intel's legal machine running them into the ground but I honestly think it would be good it would also get a grasp on Intels hold on the industry which could be good or bad, props if they can get it off the ground.

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08-21-2008 at 03:02:15 PM

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Good another player would be healthy for the industry less Intel's legal machine running them into the ground but I honestly think it would be good it would also get a grasp on Intels hold on the industry which could be good or bad, props if they can get it off the ground.

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Not wanting to troll this post, but i must agree, another player in the x86 would be great. Legally well, we shall see about it.
People still play Protoss vs Zerg vs Terran. I guess a third player with a different approach to the x86 market will only make it healthy.

And what about x86-64 license ? It is still included in the base x86 ? it is a subject i don't really know.

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n°1852847
08-21-2008 at 05:02:35 PM

radnor wrote :

Not wanting to troll this post, but i must agree, another player in the x86 would be great. Legally well, we shall see about it.
People still play Protoss vs Zerg vs Terran. I guess a third player with a different approach to the x86 market will only make it healthy.

And what about x86-64 license ? It is still included in the base x86 ? it is a subject i don't really know.



Good question. From what I have read it looks like Intel got the x86-64 licence from AMD through a deal (funny, huh?), but I don't have any links to back that. However, if that is true, it's a clear sign that x86 and x86-64 mean different licences. Guess I'll google that.


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