IBM and AMD first at 22 nm, challenge Intel’s manufacturing lead

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interesting but i do not think intel will allow them to be the first to debut actual cpu's on the market. we shall see although what significance it will have at that time in the future is uncertain at best.

We'll just have to see - it is definitely an interesting development though. I hope that they are first to 22nm - AMD really needs that kind of a boost. Plus, faster stuff sooner is never a bad thing

Nice I hope this comes out soon... If Phenom can at least reach 3+ ghz at less than 100 watts on that technology, they could be competetive again.

Phenom should reach 3GHz at 100W or less on 45nm without too much difficulty - I'd expect a hell of a lot more than just that on 22nm (considering how far out it is).

Or, to put it another way, AMD is still at 65nm. 22nm is 3 die shrinks away.
1) 45nm
2) 32nm
3) 22nm

I'd hope they'd have a bit more than a 3GHz phenom at 100W by then.

They said that for 45nm 65nm 90nm and I do beleive 130nm, now dont get me wrong it be cool if they gave Intel a run for their money on nodes but they havent got 45nm rolled out yet.

Word, Playa.

Are you sure about that?
And i'm curious when Intel will announce 22nm SRAM. Didn't they announce 32nm SRAM less than a year ago? 22nm cells at this stage is a very substantial milestone, and 22nm is believed to be at the limit of CMOS scaliing.

They should just skip a node.. look what it has done for ATI with the recent 3xxx and 4xxx seiries. So instead of going for 45nm they should consentrate their resources (whatever they have left lol) on 32nm technology, seeing as how intel is close to developing it. Plus, I don't want to see what nehalem err.. Core i7 running on 32nm would do to AMD.

Yep - Intel announced 32nm SRAM on Sept. 18, 2007.

Thanks, that's what I thought. So I dont't think we can expect a 22nm announcement any time soon. Never know though.

Way too late for that ...

they would have to skip 32nm for 22nm (and it may well be too late for that).

Well, the first Deneb previews show that core hitting 3.2 ghz fairly easily.... and for less than half the power of it's current Phenom counterparts. Others have been able to push the chip to 4 Ghz. That's with a 10+% boost in speed per clock as well. All this with just a shift to 45nm. 22nm, at less than half that will be a huge leap.

Kudos to them...

...as long as they don't screw up like Intel did when they released the first 65nm CPU; Prescott (a.k.a. Pres-HOTT!!!).

That is very impressive. I think that If AMD can pull Deneb off with high clocks, low power, and a 10% increase in IPC, we may have a winner on our hands! It is all a matter of time when AMD becomes competative again. If AMD can achieve all those things with deneb, I would expect AMD to be able to outsell intel in the mainstream market due to the extremely cheap prices of ddr2 memory.