Phenom X3 hits 3.3Ghz .finally its a phenomenon

hope a mod bans you for sponsering them,
just kidding but i would rather get a e8200 still.

so would i.but the future is multithreaded.its nice to see the green guys are at least trying!anyway, my next build would be the 9850BE

well atleast at hit 3ghz.there was lots of worries that phenoms dont go above 3 ghz!

uhhh, phenominally bad, looks like it still gets spanked by (dual core)E8400's @3.2Ghz on most real world games and apps let alone OC'ed Intel quads which are conveniently omitted and it idles of 50C OC'ed? Thats not good. My Q6600 idles at 39C-42C @ 3.5Ghz and its the older non G0 stepping. There is something very wrong with this architecture.

were you reffering to me? or A61?

becaus i said that i would get a e8200 becasue of what was said in the review, not becasue im affiliated with intel.

however i have to admit its is good that AMD are at least hitting the 3ghz, but that means Jack in the grand scheme of thing. i just wish they got there act together. the thing that put me off is the there phemon and spider and something else, it more confusing then getting a Phone on a orange contract. i guess its a ploy like Centrino.

i think these higher speed is a By product of one less core, albeit deactivated. thus the power and heat that would be used/created (respecively) can be put to higher performance.

i dont think building a phenom system right now is a good investment.

Simply put, the phenom is AMD's Netburst P4. Even the great Intel makes mistakes. So it's easy to understand why the smaller company could make a mistake as well.

never thought of it like that, still doesnt mean you shoudl buy one.

For AMD to "pull a Core 2" they would have to implement some radical design changes to their current architecture, or perhaps even create a new one from scratch. Unfortunately I don't see anything of the sort on their roadmap.

Right now it looks like 45nm is going to have to be really good for AMD to remain at all competitive once Nehalem is released.

Double post...

Well 9850BE's have hit 3Ghz (and higher), so the 'turning off core' option isn't the only way to get to 3Ghz!

Cant wait for the 9,999 MHz systems on ebay...

Excellent...

ZOldDude, I dont believe thats true.

I agree with you on some points. But so far Nehalem has been showing pretty powerful. Powerful enough to perform full physics calculations with graphics and no GPU. Now I know that nVidias whatever beat it, and I would expect a GPU to beat a CPU in terms of graphics performance. But what this could mean is that Nehalem will be powerful enough to calculate the physics in real time and allow the GPU some air to vreath. Of course I will take it with a grain of salt but a guy can hope right?

The Phenom X3's are just Phenom X4's with a bad core? No way. I thought it was Native TriCore design!!!!!!!!

I also love how the DFI boards somehow give them the OC ability of 3GHz+ yet noone has posted any proof of that here.

Dude son't listen to him. I called him out on it on a post a while back and he never has posted a CPU-Z validation or a screenshot showing his case with air and the clock speed. I think its 100% FUD until I am proven wrong.

Oh I also like how the Q6600 is stock. @2.4GYHz vs the B3 X3 Phenom @ 3GHz there is a .7FPS difference. Wow.

I looked at both and the first was at 2GHz. The second was at 1.1GHz although it should have been at 2.2GHz. Not sure why its not showing it at 2.2GHz but thats what it should be. Could just be that CPU-Z isn't working right for the Phenom X3s since they are new chips.

But either way I would have prefered to see this on a AM2 mobo as well. But oh well.

THG did a better review. According to them, a 2.4ghz tri-core is 4% slower than the x2 6400. The x2 is 3.2ghz. Looks like phenom isn't that bad after all. The tri-cores might even be good value.
http://www.tomshardware.com/review [...] ,1918.html

Totally agree with you there chap, the X3 did look pretty nice.
At the present time with few properly multi-threaded apps, it's a nice compromise. But It'll be a short-term market, as the moment decently threaded apps appear, an X4 will have a greater margin over the X3.
Looks promising though

Considering how many "OC'ing a XXXX chip" and what will cool what chip better yada post you would expect someone who gets a Phenom to OC to 3GHz+ to post here with specs and so forth. I am not saying its not believable. I know some boards will OC better with more stability than other mobos but except for this chip I have yet to see anyone get a Phenom above 3GHz, albiet running cool and on a stock voltage.

Plus its mainly that ZeOldDude makes claims like a 50% OC on air yet post no proof other than what he puts in his sig. But if you want to believe that too then be my guest. But until I see proof of a 50% OC on air like that I will hold my judgement on anything he says.

that obviously seems true.some people dont bother to get the actual message but stupidly cry whether "you have read it or not","its not worth buying" and so on.

I would have to agree. I know I'm guilty of this sometimes.

Too bad it's true

But coret has a point ... if we don't help people who post by being constructive then the forums are a waste of time and become a pissing competition between fanbois.

We should treat all strangers and those with low post counts with courtesy.

And keep working on a cheap cure for AMDitis ... the rash is spreading up my arm.

Intel's cure is too expensive Paul.

They said it wasn't worth buying for two reasons:

1. Too close in price to the B3 quads.

2. A dual core Intel CPU performs as well for a bit under the 8750's price.

They showed that it overclocked really well, which is all that enthusiasts seem to want. If AMD manages to drop the price a bit, then it might become popular. Right now, it's an upgrade for AM2/AM2+ boards that will have B3 support.

Don't see a bios yet for my wife's ASUS 690G that supports the B3's. MSI won't do a bios for my 690V board to support them. All in all, I'll wait till Deneb. That way, we should see a much cooler stock 3.0 or 3.2 that should overclock well.

45nm Deneb on SOI should be adequate, but it will still be a budget CPU compared to Nehalem. But don't despair, AMD is finally working on Bulldozer:

http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/cpu/d [...] 9_AMD.html

I'll hazard a wild guess that AMD will bring out Deneb 45nm in December and will sample Bulldozer by June. Then, they'll probably push Bulldozer out the door by Q1 2010.

I agree. Coret mentioned something to me in a PM, I didn't agree with everything he said, but I do agree that we need to help people rather than let their call for help turn into an AMD vs. Intel flame war. I'm partially guilty for this happening.

I disagree. Intel now has the 21x0 line out, for about $75. While they are not quad cores, they do an excellent job. If you double the money to $150, you can pick up the 6550. I haven't checked, but I'd be willing to bet it compares will to the Phenom, better once its overclocked. Intel does have cheap offerings, they just aren't quads. But seeing as Intels duals compete so well, why worry about that?

I've never heard of this problem. The TLB "bug" would be unrelated to this as well AFAIK. The only problem with the chips that I'm aware of is the problem already mentioned. They were supposed to be drop in replacements on AM2 boards, and for some, this will not be possible.

When its all said and done AMD has made improvements and they didnt have to steal the tech to do it.

Meh, IBMs are probably better.