Something strange with 9800X2

No one has any comments ?

This card is no good for you. I think you need to just donate the card to me and I'll give you this nice and shiny HD2400 PRO. PRO = Professional!

Im hoping for a 1 Gig 9800GTX and see how it does

Some of it is definately drivers, but when you see it dominating a Ultra then tails off below it, to me thats memory. When you see it falling, its drivers

A GTX SLI combo I think is going to beat the GTX2

2 way

2 8800GTS 512 beats a 9800GX2 in almost every game so 2 8800GTX will beat it definitely also :

http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/foru [...] ked-slides

8800GTX:
Processor Cores:128
Core Clock:575
Shader Clock:1350
Memory Clock:900
Memory:768MB


9800GTX:
Processor Cores:128
Core Clock:675
Shader Clock:1688
Memory Clock:1100
Memory:512MB

Not a huge difference between these too, and even MAYBE ( i cant say for 100% because the real benchs arent out) a 8800GTX cant beat a 9800GTX in higher resolutions


BTW i really want to see the benchmark of 3 8800GTX/ULTRA vs QUAD 9800GX2

but the overclock ability will be much better on the 9800gtx with smaller 65nm technologyand the memory is running at higher clock as well.

better cooling dont you forget.as temperature is very important factor to overclocking!!!!!!!!!!!!!

but fan will be so loud its gonna be like a jet engine in your room!lol

alright ok.i wonder what cpu fan and what case you have.because its pretty hard to beat the graphics card's fan when running on full in terms of noise.

Are you sure thats going to happen? (2 9800GX2s running together). Wouldnt that be the equivalent to quad sli driver wise and isnt tri sli going to be the max point for nvidia in the near future?

This is a genuine question I havent seen any evidence in support or opposition to your supposition.

Sort of off topic, but I wonder if Huang will finally accept dual GPU cards? Nvidia will be competing against more than just the 3870x2 in May, as the 3850x2 will arrive in 512 and 1 gig versions.

Perhaps Nvidia could finally do a single PCB 9600gx2? That would be a competitor! IMHO, dual GPU cards will come in at several price points as a step towards dual core GPU's.

I personally wouldn't touch the GX2 over the 3870.
The GX2 doesn't offer nearly enough extra performance for the extra £/$ in my opinion.
My GTXs will still kick a GX2 at high-res with or without filters, so I can't see the point in upgrading at the moment!

I'm an ATI guy so I may be wrong: GTX 768MB memory, GX2 1 GB. So 2 GTX's would be 1536 memory compared to the 1 GB on the GX2.

I think that is what we are trying to say about the memory. The extra 128 per core leads to higher FPS when running filters or high res. There are also other factors I'm sure, but look at all the other 512 MB cards and their performance at the 1920x1200 and higher res.

A little off topic, but I'm finding it hard to reason the rationale behind the 512 MB barrier on cards these days. I'm sure cost and practicality for most users are the main reasons, but when we're talking about high-end cards I see no reason not to step up.

Am I that far off?

I c, my bad.

I really wish Crysis would patch the game to take more advantage to multiple GPUs...I wan't to get a 3rd 3870, but is it worth it when the game I really want to look good (i've had it for months now and I havn't played it) is Crysis?!

So many tough decisions.

yes that is true. As for Crysis. The people who made the game said in an interview that they made the game so that you couldn't run the Very high with current gen cards so that later in the gaming year it would still look good.

weird bu I'd beleive it!

trying to keep the engine still polished in the future? I have no idea...lol ask them not me! lol!

I remember when crysis was being talked about as one of the most anticipated games coming, out there was another one called Huxley that sounded much better b/c it would have been the first MMO FPS...but alas I have not seen it come out, so its either been canned or never was finished.

its funny how reply jump straight from one topic to another!lool

I recognise that last comment from Tom's new high-end system. It's true that:
1. The 9800GX2 impresses people with super-high frame-rates at low resolutions.
2. Nobody needs super-high frame rates that are faster than their monitor's refresh rate.
3. The 8800GTX beats the 9800GX2 at higher resolutions, AA/AF, and detail settings.

Easy conclusion: The 8800GTX wins where we need the extra performance, while the 9800GX2 wins at settings where the higher frame-rates are meaningless.

The 9800GX2's "superior performance" is like a scam, it's like saying "This car hits 8,000 RPM in Second Gear, but this other car only hits 6,000RPM in every gear" when both cars have the same gear ratios. In the gear that matters (high gear), the "slower" engine wins.

the memory in the graphics system do double!but the amount of memory which per card or core have for cache the pre rendered frames stays the same.and the GX2 have 512/core where as the 8800GTX have 768/core.makes sense?

The way the mem works on the dual boards or sli/cross configs is sorta confusing.

It makes people wonder why if you have say an HD3870X2 that is only still shows 512mb of VRAM.

Makes ya kinda feel ripped off =P

Thats right, HD 3870X2 has 1 PCB(HD 3870X2 a single card ) and has 2 HD 3870 on it and each has 512MB memory so the total memory HD 3870X2 is 1GB and as u know


But its different for example for 8800GTX, a 8800GTX has 768MB memory and if u SLI a 8800GTX it stil will have 768MB memory

True, but unfortunately that 512 x 2 memory in reality only works as efficiently as 512mb.

The Ultra with 768 has better memory performance than a board with 512 x 2.

That is what I think sucks.

Screw the dual GPUs and just give us an 8800 or a 3870 with 1GB RAM or even more.