GeForce 9800 GTX Specs Confirmed: Leaked Slides.

Wow I was expecting alot better, but the clock speeds are great! Well we have to see if it's worth buying. i got the 8800gt and it works great, replaced my 7950gx2, now that was a huge improvment. I'm going to wait till they come out with the next gen cards and match the obvious reasons like everybody else. good luck all.

Wow, Crysis scaling at nearly 100%, nvidia don't make their false data subtle.

Not impressed at all. They had to release this with a lousy 256 bit memory. How pathetic. The 9800 series have been a huge disappointment, I guess they did this because they are waiting for ATI to catch up to them.

I was expecting a lot from NVIDIA with their GeForce 9 series and I'm greatly disappointed.

Yeah, just what I thought!
Well if it's all in the drivers, i'll sit tight with SLi GTXs thanks!

if this is correct i will get 1 or 2 of them in 6 months as my 8800gts 640mb whill be ok for a bit more and i need a new mob and cpu (q9450) need to see benchmarks/reviews before i pick the mob

I agree.

I was gonna get a PSU with 3x6pin and 3x8pin :
http://www.thermaltake.com/product [...] /w0133.asp

This for SLI and one day maybe 3way SLI.

But now I see the 9800GTX has 2x6pin and not 1x6pin and 1x8pin:
http://www.nordichardware.com/news,7513.html

On the PSU site it says the 8 pin connectors are downward compatible but what does that mean? the 8 pins won't fit over the 6pins of the gtx looking at the pic's. There is too much plastic in the way on the side. Any idea's?

I'm just gonna keep waiting till the 8800GT hits $AU200 or less.

The extra bandwidth and memory will help at resolutions of greater than or equal to 1920x1200, often with 4xAA. Below that there won't be alot of difference. If the price is right, the 9800GTX will be a much better buy than the overpriced GTX. And forget the Ultra unless you are Chrometophobic.

I don't think this card is meant to compete with the 3870, we already have the 8800GT that does that and the 9800GTX isnt really in its price range anyway. Instead I think its to bridge to grap between the mid range and the so called high end (dual GPU) cards. Not that the 3870x2 isnt a good card but there really isnt anything in between a 3870 and a X2 while it's roughly double the price. I think thats a good move for Nvidia, assuming there GX2 isnt a complete bust like its predecessors. Although I excepted more from Nvidia as they were king of the hill for over a year and just waiting for ATI to play catch up, maybe like you said this will give Nvidia sometime to work things out with there next gen cards.

Thats the boat Im in, and my favourite game will only work with a single GPU and has DX10 extras to use as well .

If these specs are right it looks like the old GTX will make it to the 2 year mark as a competetive card.

Still waiting on final release and real reviews before I make any decisions at all. But if this doesnt provide more than a 10% boost at my sort of resolutions as a single GPU then its really not going to be worth upgrading to . Still no doubt a good solid card at a good price for the new builders and upgraders from previous generations. Some of us already brought into this sort of performance and dont want tepid reheats.

I can still hope that Nvidia can pull a rabbit out of a hat, or after that Im going to be waiting on the next big (dingle GPU)thing from ATI.

Its not often that high end performance lasts longer than the warranty on a graphics card...

We can't just compare the cards clocks and frequencies to determine wich is the best or will be the best its like comparing the AMD x2 4200 @2.4GHz and E6600 @ 2.4Ghz the diference isn't in their clocks but in the entire architecture... its my think...

The benchmarks ive seen all show it outperforming an Ultra... and at the resolutions I play at, this is good news for me. 8800 Ultra performance at a much lower price is nice news.

Supposed 1st 9800 GTX review (in chinese)

http://www.pconline.com.cn/diy/gra [...] 43353.html



http://www.pconline.com.cn/diy/gra [...] 53_17.html

Seems to be able to beat an Ultra at lower res, but at higher its level/Ultra wins...

The 8800GTX could have been their profit maker if they had dropped their price after the Ultra release but the didn't. I agree though that this model will make more profit for them since they cut memory and used the same die as the old (but shrunk it) Its all about making a quick buck at this point.

There is nothing new generation about all these cards. Some guys will be real upset when they buy this and 6mo later the real next gen chip appears blowing them all away.

Agreed....

As for the better than 8800 Ultra performance... im quite happy buying one if it can beat that card... and overclocks some more too

It's called "elasticity". If the product is price elastic, revenue will increase even if unit price decreases due to the increase in quantity demanded.

-mcg

I've thought the same thing about the 9600GT performance. Compared to an 8800GTS 512 it has:

50% shaders
50% TMUs
100%ROPs
100% clocks [fairly insignificant when compared to core configuration], and
100% mem bus

And yet it's performance compared to the GTS is ~ 30% fps hit.

This makes me think the things that truly matter are ROPs and memory bus (the two areas in which the 8600GT/GTS really lacked - 50% less than the 8800GTS - despite high clocks and 25% shaders and TMUs). Also gives me the impression if the 9800GTX has an equal number of ROPs as the 8800GTX [24], it's really going to haul compared to an otherwise identical 8800GTS 512.

This is very vague, but as I said earlier, I think with everyone thinking that this card will be hampered by a 256 bit vs a 384, it wont. It has some to do with compression. From Anantech :"The GeForce 9600 GT, in addition to finally encroaching on ATI's naming scheme, is fabbed on a 65nm process by TSMC and sports a 256-bit memory bus. The differences between G9x and G8x are small, but even so details were light. Their compression technology has evolved to provide higher effective bandwidth between the GPU and framebuffer. We would love to provide more details on this and the other changes, but NVIDIA is still being a bit tight lipped" Whatever this compression means, itll change the way we look at a 256 bit, as with the 9600, the 9800 will incorporate this as well

I did not bring up memory bus width as a 256 vs. 320/384, but as 256 vs. 128 (all the anemic mid-ranges that precede the 8800GT and 9600GT (or the 8800GS's 192-bit setup, for that matter). Yeah, think about the 8800GS, it has the same config as the 8800GTS G80, except for memory bus (192 vs. 320) and ROPs (12 vs. 20) and the 8800GS even has higher clocks (550/1375/1600 vs. 500/1200/1600), yet the now-underpowered G80 GTS still beats it.

This is how nVidia castrates it's cards, and if the G92 has yet-to-be-unlocked ROPs we're unaware of, then the 9800GTX should be a fairly sweet card, otherwise, why is nVidia even bothering to put it out?

I know..... If nVidia releases it with 24 ROPs I'll be chuffed.

9800GTx has 16 ROP's though.. I haven't heard or seen anywhere them having 24...

very true, at least for now.

I dont think it will be better than 8800GTX/ULTRA in higher resolutions but still i am waiting for real benchs

When exactly does this take place? I was under the impression that it was already lifted. People had said it was over on the 18th, but does that mean after the 18th instead?