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Did anyone check out Fudzilla.com today? They got pictures of the GeForce 9600GT and this card is a Quantum leap in performance over the 8600GT. (unlike the nonexistent increase in performance from the 7600GT to the 8600GT which only offered DX10 capability but no extra fraps in DX9 applications)

The 9600GT will compete directly with the ATI 3850 cards. It will have 384MB of onboard 256 bit ram and the sucker scores over 10k on the 3D Mark06. It is built on a 65nm spin off of the G92 (called G94-300) and it going to be super stiff competition for ATI.

This card is expected to be released in Mid-February.

Even if you have no plans to buy from Nvidia wait until 30 days after the 9600GT has been released before buying a card. That should be enough time to allow AMD to drop their prices on the 3850 series to compete with Nvidia.

Here are the details on the GeForce 9600GT. This card looks BAD A$$! Expect very competitive pricing from Nvidia on this one.

The 9600GT story on Fudzilla.com:
http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php? [...] 3&Itemid=1

Pictures of the Geforce 9600GT:
http://en.expreview.com/?p=184

Oh, also the 8800GS cards are coming out also. I imagine they will compete with the 3870 cards.

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The 9600GT is looking to be a decent enough card. It will likely debut at the price point of the current HD 3850 and be on par with performance. However, I see no real reason to buy this over an HD 3850, especially seeing that the HD 3850 will scale better in CF.

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Gotta Love the Naming.
Just something else to confuse Everybody.

The new 9xxx Series card is now About 6th in Performance.

8800GTX>8800GTS 512mb>8800GT 512mb>8800GTS 640MB>8800GT 256MB>8800GTS 320MB>9600GT

Hey, this is nice that NVIDIA is getting a new card in there, but my god I think they are using a random number generator for naming their new cards.


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The 9600GT is looking great. thanks for the information

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I think the release of the GeForce 9600GT is real exciting news. The standard for Mid-range cards will now be raised dramatically.

Dell offers a lot of computers with the 8600GT as one of their top graphic options for midrange computers (The $800 to $1,400 price range). Now with the 9600GT coming out this is really going to provide the general public (non-PC builders) with a very strong video cards.

This is great news for the PC gaming community. With dramatically stronger video cards being infused in to the general public this will likely influence game developers to re-invest in to PC gaming and keep the graphics of PC games on the same level of consoles or even better.

Example: Madden 2008 is L-O-N-G overdue for a graphics overhaul on the PC. I am hoping that Madden 2009 for the PC will finally be constructed on the XBOX360 engine. The fact that Peter Moore (formerly of XBOX360 and Games for Windows) is now the big man at EA Sports that may very well happen this year.

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zenmaster wrote :

Gotta Love the Naming.
Just something else to confuse Everybody.

The new 9xxx Series card is now About 6th in Performance.

8800GTX>8800GTS 512mb>8800GT 512mb>8800GTS 640MB>8800GT 256MB>8800GTS 320MB>9600GT

Hey, this is nice that NVIDIA is getting a new card in there, but my god I think they are using a random number generator for naming their new cards.

I agree with you Zen Master.

Nvidia's new numbering system has ZERO LOGIC!

Why did they do a remake of the 8800GTS on the G92 chip? Tell me that isn't confusing as h3ll for someone who is not as experienced as us. It would had made a world of more sense to had named it the 8850GTS or the 8900GTS.

And what happened to the 8900 Series cards? Nvidia just leaped right over them and went straight to the 9800 Cards.

Yet the new G92 dual chip card (which is basically two 8800GTs) is going to be called the 9800GX2.

What are they thinking?

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Just reminds me of my ATI radeon 9600 I used to run, still have it too somewhere, lol.

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I don't see how this is dramatic. ATi already has cards at the same performance and price. Sure, prices may drop a little with nVidia's 9600GT, but it won't be huge and it certainly won't be dramatic. As far as OEM builders... they will replace those 8600GT's with 9400GT's, mark my words.

And exactly what does this launch have to do with Madden 2008/9?

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SEALBoy wrote :

I don't see how this is dramatic. ATi already has cards at the same performance and price. Sure, prices may drop a little with nVidia's 9600GT, but it won't be huge and it certainly won't be dramatic. As far as OEM builders... they will replace those 8600GT's with 9400GT's, mark my words.

And exactly what does this launch have to do with Madden 2008/9?

Personally I like ATI. I think their Color Quality is better along with their price/performance ratio. But for some reason the Big Guys (like Dell) seem to gear their entire line up towards Nvidia. Nvidia is currently the industry leader and most of the big brands like Dell, HP, Gateway almost buy Nvidia exclusively.

Walk in to a Best Buy, or a Circuit City or Sam's Club and try to find a OEM computer with an ATI card in it. There are almost NONE! Out of 20 computers there may be 1 or 2 with ATI cards. Even on computers with AMD processors.

Now that Both Nvidia and ATI have cards at the same performance level I think potenial exists that the quality of PC gaming is going to increase. (Not that it is bad right now)

The launch is not directly tied in to Madden '09. It was just an example I was trying to illustrate.

I can understand your logic in the OEMs replacing the 8600GTs with the 9400GTs but not totally sold that it is going to happen. A leap in graphical technology is going to happen for midrange computers at one point or another and I think there is a good chance it may happen this go around or in Fall 2008.

You know when Nvidia has their meetings with the OEMs in March/April that they are going to try to UPSELL and talk them in to replacing the 8600GTs in their line up with their successors the 9600GTs. That is the Marketing Machine of Nvidia. They did not get named Forbes 2007 Company of the Year for nothin.


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Another mid range card that is supposed to be 256 bit, i hope it's true this time, the 7600gt and 8600gts were supposed to be 256 bit too, also isnt the 8800gs only 192 bit, me thinks this is gonna be a 128 bit card.


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zenmaster wrote :

Gotta Love the Naming.
Just something else to confuse Everybody.




Yeah, based on the naming convention my 5 year old Radeon 9600XT should rock the up coming GeForce 9600GT.

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reconviperone1 wrote :

Another mid range card that is supposed to be 256 bit, i hope it's true this time, the 7600gt and 8600gts were supposed to be 256 bit too, also isnt the 8800gs only 192 bit, me thinks this is gonna be a 128 bit card.

I don't think it is going to be a 128bit card. Ever see a 128bit card score 10,357 on the 3D Mark06?

http://en.expreview.com/?p=184

As quoted from Fudzilla.com today

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"The good news is that the card is using a 256-bit memory interface as expected, so the mid-range cards have finally gotten that performance boost they needed."

http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php? [...] 3&Itemid=1


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Rwayne wrote :


Dell offers a lot of computers with the 8600GT as one of their top graphic options for midrange computers (The $800 to $1,400 price range). Now with the 9600GT coming out this is really going to provide the general public (non-PC builders) with a very strong video cards.



What are the typical watts on those Dell PSU's? 300-350? This card will need at least a 400 watt PSU. I guess the general public can have solid midrange gaming, but these increasing power requirements are shooting up the price of this midrange and negating the improved price/performance profile of this new midrange card.

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