Phenom B3 going swimmingly, apparently

The inquirer again:

http://www.theinquirer.net/gb/inqu [...] a-b3s-fine

B3 inproduction in q1, in the shops in q2. Next stepping is CX, which will be shanghai on 45nm.

Comment at bottom of page says german website has info on bug ridden harpertowns. Mind you this whole thing could be just hogwash.

http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/po [...] riant.html

thanks man, made me laugh reading the errata list for intels quads. Lets all hope it goes swimmingly indeed.

Na b3 was put back quite some time ago wasnt it? Wasnt supposed to be this month until quite some time ago or am i wrong. Fell free to write: 'yes, your wrong' lol

Theyre past the point of no return now, sell and get back just pennies, or hold on for another 8 quarters and/or samsung. Despite that it is nice to hear that b3 is not in fact b2.5, and that they havent fallen flat again. I hope hector has rolled his sleaves up and is making the engineers teas and coffees and arranging biscuits and snacks nicely on big shiny plates and cleaning the toilets too. Doing something useful for a change that is. Oh look he missed a spot...

You could be correct.
It's really all quibble.

I really do hope that B3 ships sooner rather than later and cheap too.
It will help other prices.

Unfortunately, I don't want to wait any longer for my Penryn and am going for the 8400 in just over a week.

LOL. I'm glad you have a sense of humor as well :-)

That came from my department of "You had it coming to you."


Spoonboy, I like you.

Awww crapper, and and I just paid for that 9600+ BE yesterday. On the other hand it's nice to see that they're ramping up for Shanghai 45nm already, means by the end of the year or sooner for the chips. Guess they weren't kidding when someone said the 45nm samples were looking promising. 45nm is supposed to be where they're switching to IBM's germanium High K gate correct?

Hmmm maybe if I pray and ask really nicely they'll give all us poor sods who bought a b2 revision BE chip some kind of rebate or something to get ahold of the new b3 chips when they release. This should also help them greatly in the server market.

Eh, I guess I'll survive. By the time the B3 comes out, I'll be out of debt myself, and any income I make from my secondary job will be gravy that I can spend on whatever I want anyway.. Not to mention my raise at Wally world goes into effect this month too. Hell or I could just sell a few of my walmart shares about that time too.

Granted if they get the Shanghai out soon enough I might just skip b3 all together. I doubt I'm gonna have any issues with the b2

I wounder what germaniums limit will be compared to hafnium. I guess we will see which one will win on the road to 32nm and smaller.

This is sorat good news I gues. I still want my Yorkie Q9450. I think I might head up to Chandler and see if I can sneak one out of the FAB there....

Germanium should actually have a long life span in CPU's. It's been being used in electronic components and solid state chips for quite a while. Like I said in a post a while back, it's mainly used for high grade resistors and diodes, until recently. Considering a transistor is basically a diode that only conducts current when current is introduced on a second input line to bridge the gap, creating basically an on switch between the two main elements of the regular diode.

Semiconductor on Insulator (SOI) works to a point with transistors, but once you hit that point you can't stop the current leaking through the silicon. According to what I remember, IBM has germanium working on 32nm process, and it shouldn't be hard to adapt that to 45nm, which is likely why they're upping the 45nm die shrink to possibly this year from what it appears.

I kinda wonder how far hafnium will go. Thinking possibly they'll have a similar limit on how small the transistors can be micronized for both processes.

You made my eye twitch..... ROFL

For a tech electronics geek, thats just about as bad as
"a baby seal walks into a club..."

Damn! Not the eye twitch! Seek imediate medical attention!

Well, that's probably high on your fantasy list, but I don't think it will happen. You and Thunderman, why do people get overly invested emotionally in their favorite company, or in some cases, their least favorite company.

Were it not for Intel's business practices, I would have gone C2D but I decided after Northwood to give AMD a try, and the Athlon X2's I own are decent little processors.

The 65nm Phenom isn't quite AMD's Prescott, and I'll give AMD the benefit of the doubt until I see B3 in action, and better yet; 45nm Phenom's later this year.

As far as stock goes, it's not just AMD's. The tech market's in a bit of a tumble now, and I have to ride herd on my 401K just to stay close to even. It will get better, for stocks in general and for AMD.

i think he's doing the dance with the bunny ear now....

They never made a 1Mb X 2 Cache for the 65nm spin ... pity.

Tho yes ... they appear to run cooler ... they are yet to run as fast.

Still not as good as the best 90nm silicon.

From what I understand and read 5600+ is 5600+ either way you look at it. The speed is equal. They increased the GHz to compsensate for the reduced cache levels.

LOL! best post ever!

AMD is to also use Hi-k , some joint thing with IBM. http://blogs.computerworld.com/node/4462 .

I have two words regarding the Inquirer, that will sum up their credibility:

Reverse Hyperthreading

I am going to upgrade to probably a 64x2 5600 this year because cost wise it makes sense with my AM2 motherboard, but after that if AMD does not have anything competitive in 2009 I am switching to Intel.

I am tired of supporting AMD for Fan Boyhood sake.

That is sad too because every computer I have ever build over the last 8 years has been AMD.

I think AMD needs to clean house and get a new C.E.O.

dont tell me you cant work it out,

I am glad the forum enjoyed the picture. Thought I would have a little fun with Donald Trump and Microsoft Paint. It is just the way I feel man. Time to move on.