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Thread : So lemme get this strait
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Profile: journeyman
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Bit a newbie on overclocking and just wanna make sure I'm not doing anything wrong. The cpu speed is measured by the fsb x the multiplier. In order to raise the fsb you must also increase the core voltage or vcore accordingly. The vcore should not exceed the VID Voltage Range limit to prevent overheating. The cpu heat will also increase as the vcore is increased and should not exceed Thermal Design Power. Does that sound right?
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Profile: Eternal Poster
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#1 - This is not necessarily any need to increase your Voltages. In fact I both Overclock and Decrease my Voltages at the same time. It is only necessary to increase the voltage to reach maximum overclock. It depends on what you need to do with the system.
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^zen, VID is for just telling the motherboard how much voltage it needs at stock. The absolute MAX voltages for the 45nm is 1.4v. (You can go higher, but not recommended if planing to run CPU for a while)
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Profile: journeyman
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Well it seems I'm on the right track. I ocd at 400fsb with 9multiply and had the vcore 1.25, memory set 1.1 (800mhz) memory frequency right on. I ran prime95 for 7hours last night w/o an error and highest temps were around 51c. So it seems quite stable atm but here lies the problem: If I increase fsb anymore it outgoes the 800mhz which is no recommended by looks of ya guide zen. Is this the cpu limit with the current ram I have? |
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Profile: addict
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Change your Memory Multiplier to lower your Memory speed a bit and then raise your FSB a little more, if that lets your CPU run faster than the limit was your Memeory. If not then your CPU is at its limit for its current voltage.
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Unless your RAM can be successfully OCed you will be limited to a 400FSB on DDR2 800. --------------- E2180 @3.2Ghz + P35DS3L +8400GS (700/475 OC) ![]() |
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Profile: Faithful Poster
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So why can you only overclock your CPU and not your memory? Just because its rated for 800MHz doesn't mean it can't go over that. See how far you can push the ram. Or as the others have suggested, lower the divider to get more CPU, though realize this could impact some benchmarks. --------------- The voice of REASON Do NOT feed the TROLLS! Always a DEMON! |
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Profile: journeyman
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The divider cannot go any lower so I guess I'll up the memory. Is the ram more fragile than the cpu? will I have bigger risk increasing this? I really can't afford any pieces blowing up on me.
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What exact RAM are you using? Generally RAM can OC to about 1000Mhz or even higher esp. for the Crucial Ballastix or other D9 based RAM. RAM (imo) is more sensitive to OC than a CPU. Message edited by Shadow703793 on 06-11-2008 at 12:04:29 AM --------------- E2180 @3.2Ghz + P35DS3L +8400GS (700/475 OC) ![]() |
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Profile: journeyman
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Corsair XMS2 pc2-6400 DDR2 800MHz CL5
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With that RAM you should be able to hit 900-1000Mhz, may require +.1v on the RAM. --------------- E2180 @3.2Ghz + P35DS3L +8400GS (700/475 OC) ![]() |
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Profile: nimble knuckle
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yeah... I bought 2 GB Mushkin ram rated at 4 4 4 12 timings at 800 mhz... and overclocked it to 1200mhz 5 4 4 12.... its amazing ram =D |
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Profile: journeyman
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Well I tried and my computer just had a fit, I would get to that black screen that say "dmi load" some crap with the ....after it and then get stuck in a restart cycle. I guess I'll investigate more on the ram issue later, could of possibly been the cpu at like 4050mhz idk heh, maybe 2.0v to much for memory. |
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Profile: addict
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The standard for DDR2 is 1.8v. Upping the DDR2 voltage by +0.1v puts you at 1.9v which most likely is not enough for the overclock you're trying to achieve.
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I have used several different brands of DDR-400MHz sticks, and all have overclocked to DDR-450 without a bump in voltage or needing to relax any timings. (200 to 225 without bumping any voltages for both of my Asus boards.) I would think DDR2-800 should be good to DDR2-900 without needing to go crazy. The specs call for 1.8v, but there is a lot of DDR2 ram out there that runs at 2.0-2.2v. I say push it to 450MHz, same timings, but try it with 2.0v. --------------- The voice of REASON Do NOT feed the TROLLS! Always a DEMON! |
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