Just wondering if there has been any talk about the 8900. It seems like it really hasnt been talked about for several months and no news has surfaced on it to my knowledge but I was wondering if you guys may have heard any rumors.

I know people were speculating that it would be released right around this time.

So whats the news?

http://forums.vr-zone.com/showthread.php?t=129309

It seems that 8900 GS will be the "8600 ultra" everybody is waiting for, 96 PS and 256 bit memory interface. It looks like 8600 GTS is going to die, to crappy to expensive.
If it's true NV is gonna make a price hit into Ati lineup.

Ever heard of the 2900xl?

My uninformed assumption is that nVidia isn't being pressed to push the performance of their cards, due to lack of competition in the top tier performance market.

If they released a 8900 now, it would just compete with their own product (the 8800GTX).

I still wish they released the 8900 however, my eVGA step-up dealine is coming up.

That information is long ago expired.

nV already said there will in fact be bringing out a GF8600Ultra which will compete against the RV670/HD2900Pro, and considering the leakage problems with 80nm it's unlikely any high-end part is going to be 80nm, might as well move to 65nm at this point. Also of course no GF8800Ultra on that list.

That list (which first surfaced at OCW) has pretty much been debunked as a credible roadmap.

Exactly! All of the 8900s they had lined up ready to beat down the 2800 have probably been given to the children of the executives at Nvidia. No sense in besting your own products.

in order for 8900s to come out, ati-amd must steps up. yes the 8800 ultra just came out. i dont see the points of nvidia releasing new cards, they has been selling well so far. i think ati-amd is holding back nvidia. what happened to ati since amd took over, we need the two companies to compete so we can new cards to play with.

These new cards are still power hungry and occupy two slots spaces. I will wait for better ones possibly from ATI

lol, i dont thinks youll get anything better from ATI, the 2900s are huge and noisier.

Yay if its true, then im really looking forward to the 8600 ultra with 256 bit. Seriosly the mid range is where they make the most money and since the 8600gt doesnt seem to have the 600series performance, the new 600series will surely kick ati's ass.

Except for the fact that it still costs them more to make the GF8800 than it would be to make a smaller version (smaller not less capable folks).

And the GTS-320 is a very inefficient chip for it's price range, same cost as a GTX for the chip.

I wonder if we'll see it within the next 3 months.

I've heard of it... it will SUCK! Suck your money out of your wallet and the electricity out of you wall outlet. The one thing that every Nvidia fanboi needs to worry about now is if Nvidia can do a die-shrink to thier gpu's to lower their power usage and heat output. I beleive the 8900 will be an "unlocked" G80 core with more stream processors and GDDR4 memory. It will be a nice card all in all and probablly suck just as much power as a 2900xt. After the release of the 8900 though Nvidia will be tapped out and Microsoft will probablly end up buying them. Remember this post!

A die-shrink would be nice.

Why compare the 8900 GTX with the 2900 XT, it's 3 generations above it. Let's count, 8800 GTS a bit better than 2900 XT, 8800 GTX a lot faster than 8800 GTS, 8900 GTX better be faster than 8800 GTX or there' no point in releasing it.

Why in heck would Microsoft buy nVidia???

Well ATI is supposed to have a high-end card out sometime in Q3. Whether its the 2900xtx or the 2950, it'll be 9 months late to the party, and with all that design time, it should outperform the 8800gtx. I can't see any other reason to further delay launching a highend product unless it was to pinch every bit of performance from it.

I'd expect Nvidia to launch the 8900's right around the same time in order to remain on top.

A die-shrink would be nice.

Why compare the 8900 GTX with the 2900 XT, it's 3 generations above it. Let's count, 8800 GTS a bit better than 2900 XT, 8800 GTX a lot faster than 8800 GTS, 8900 GTX better be faster than 8800 GTX or there' no point in releasing it.

Why in heck would Microsoft buy nVidia???

I think you're confused what a "generation" is. Overall I agree that an 8900 GTX should not be compared to a 2900 XT... just think you could have worded it better.

And as far as Microsoft... nah... they're not buying Nvidia... Intel is the one to watch.

wait a minute what happened to the ATI 2800s? wouldnt that compare with the NV 8800's just like 1800s vs. 7800s? 2900 vs 8900?

Where do you come up with that figure? If it's 9months late to the party that would mean it was a pre-Xmas '06 part !!
Even with last year's original summer launch timetables that wouldn't mesh with any of the roadmaps.

A die-shrink would be nice.

Why compare the 8900 GTX with the 2900 XT, it's 3 generations above it. Let's count, 8800 GTS a bit better than 2900 XT, 8800 GTX a lot faster than 8800 GTS, 8900 GTX better be faster than 8800 GTX or there' no point in releasing it.

Why in heck would Microsoft buy nVidia???

I think you're confused what a "generation" is. Overall I agree that an 8900 GTX should not be compared to a 2900 XT... just think you could have worded it better.

And as far as Microsoft... nah... they're not buying Nvidia... Intel is the one to watch.

True, sorry.

I wish Intel would buy nVidia already and help them go to 45 nm fast... On the other hand, there's some cross-licensing going on, that might be just as good.

About the card sucking electricity: a computer running between 6 pm and midnight every weekday, plus 10 hours on Saturday and 10 hours on Sunday, for 5 years, consuming 600W all the time, will consume a total of 7800 KWh (where I live that's about US$ 1000). A graphics card that reduces its consumption by a third will save me about 1/6h of that, which is about US$ 170 over 5 years in total. Yeah, it's nice, but not that important.
Plus, in real life, the computer won't be under full load all the time.

Tiers... that's the word you were looking for.