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In the news today it was announced that all Windows OS's, back to W98, need
critical security updates installed.
Going to the Microsoft site, I don't see any updates for W98 - they all seem to
be for XP, ME, 2000 etc.

Any suggestions?

John <><

A wise monkey is a monkey who doesn't monkey
with an other monkey's monkey.
(A very free paraphrase of Exodus 20:14).

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John <nospam@nospam.ca> wrote in
newssbq519b9em3n05l7lavria07no62lusp8@4ax.com:

> In the news today it was announced that all Windows OS's, back to W98,
> need critical security updates installed.
> Going to the Microsoft site, I don't see any updates for W98 - they all
> seem to be for XP, ME, 2000 etc.
>
> Any suggestions?

Did you go to WindowsUpdate? There was an update there for me.

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There are at least two for Win98/98SE:
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=890923
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=891711 (this is a re-issued update.)

Here's the whole list for yesterday:
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/s [...] 5-apr.mspx

You *should* use Windows Updates to get your patches, though.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm

"John" <nospam@nospam.ca> wrote in message
newssbq519b9em3n05l7lavria07no62lusp8@4ax.com...
> In the news today it was announced that all Windows OS's, back to W98,
need
> critical security updates installed.
> Going to the Microsoft site, I don't see any updates for W98 - they
all seem to
> be for XP, ME, 2000 etc.
>
> Any suggestions?
>
> John <><
>
> A wise monkey is a monkey who doesn't monkey
> with an other monkey's monkey.
> (A very free paraphrase of Exodus 20:14).

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Thanks, Gary!

On Wed, 13 Apr 2005 12:27:23 -0700, "Gary S. Terhune" <grystnews@mvps.org>
wrote:

>There are at least two for Win98/98SE:
>http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=890923
>http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=891711 (this is a re-issued update.)
>
>Here's the whole list for yesterday:
>http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/Bulletin/ms05-apr.mspx
>
>You *should* use Windows Updates to get your patches, though.


John <><

A wise monkey is a monkey who doesn't monkey
with an other monkey's monkey.
(A very free paraphrase of Exodus 20:14).

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Note that MS05-002 (KB891711) *doesn't* appear on that list, because it
was a re-issued Update and not part of the same workflow (word has it
that PSS wasn't absolutely sure until the last minute that it would go
live when it did.)

This occasionally occurs with other updates, too, which is one of the
reasons using Windows Updates is so much more preferable to any other
method (for Win99/98SE/ME systems, at least.)

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm

"John" <nospam@nospam.ca> wrote in message
news:gn1r51p15dqp20cknb9fb1hna5dfch4su7@4ax.com...
> Thanks, Gary!
>
> On Wed, 13 Apr 2005 12:27:23 -0700, "Gary S. Terhune"
<grystnews@mvps.org>
> wrote:
>
> >There are at least two for Win98/98SE:
> >http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=890923
> >http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=891711 (this is a re-issued
update.)
> >
> >Here's the whole list for yesterday:
> >http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/Bulletin/ms05-apr.mspx
> >
> >You *should* use Windows Updates to get your patches, though.
>
>
> John <><
>
> A wise monkey is a monkey who doesn't monkey
> with an other monkey's monkey.
> (A very free paraphrase of Exodus 20:14).

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Here we go again.

Thanks for posting the information pages.
Can you please post a direct link to the KB890923 item for 98/ME.

I don't see it on any of the pages.
And I would prefer not to use "Windows Update".

Any help would be much appreciated.

darkrats



"Gary S. Terhune" <grystnews@mvps.org> wrote in message
newsvdsJ7FQFHA.3356@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> There are at least two for Win98/98SE:
> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=890923
> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=891711 (this is a re-issued update.)
>
> Here's the whole list for yesterday:
> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/s [...] 5-apr.mspx
>
> You *should* use Windows Updates to get your patches, though.
>
> --
> Gary S. Terhune
> MS MVP Shell/User
> http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
> http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm
>
> "John" <nospam@nospam.ca> wrote in message
> newssbq519b9em3n05l7lavria07no62lusp8@4ax.com...
> > In the news today it was announced that all Windows OS's, back to W98,
> need
> > critical security updates installed.
> > Going to the Microsoft site, I don't see any updates for W98 - they
> all seem to
> > be for XP, ME, 2000 etc.
> >
> > Any suggestions?
> >
> > John <><
> >
> > A wise monkey is a monkey who doesn't monkey
> > with an other monkey's monkey.
> > (A very free paraphrase of Exodus 20:14).
>

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How about the Windows Updates Catalog?
http://v4.windowsupdate.microsoft. [...] efault.asp

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm

"darkrats" <darkrats@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:uq6RbCHQFHA.1096@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> Here we go again.
>
> Thanks for posting the information pages.
> Can you please post a direct link to the KB890923 item for 98/ME.
>
> I don't see it on any of the pages.
> And I would prefer not to use "Windows Update".
>
> Any help would be much appreciated.
>
> darkrats
>
>
>
> "Gary S. Terhune" <grystnews@mvps.org> wrote in message
> newsvdsJ7FQFHA.3356@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> > There are at least two for Win98/98SE:
> > http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=890923
> > http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=891711 (this is a re-issued
update.)
> >
> > Here's the whole list for yesterday:
> > http://www.microsoft.com/technet/s [...] 5-apr.mspx
> >
> > You *should* use Windows Updates to get your patches, though.
> >
> > --
> > Gary S. Terhune
> > MS MVP Shell/User
> > http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
> > http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm
> >
> > "John" <nospam@nospam.ca> wrote in message
> > newssbq519b9em3n05l7lavria07no62lusp8@4ax.com...
> > > In the news today it was announced that all Windows OS's, back to
W98,
> > need
> > > critical security updates installed.
> > > Going to the Microsoft site, I don't see any updates for W98 -
they
> > all seem to
> > > be for XP, ME, 2000 etc.
> > >
> > > Any suggestions?
> > >
> > > John <><
> > >
> > > A wise monkey is a monkey who doesn't monkey
> > > with an other monkey's monkey.
> > > (A very free paraphrase of Exodus 20:14).
> >
>
>

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Exactly, Gary -- you mean 98 not 99 -- shall everyone party like its 1999 --
sorry I could not resist the humor and I hope you do not see me as a lessor
person. You are one of the great MVP's imo Gary and I can see you continuing
to live in Alex Nichol's shoes. <grin, smile, wink> LOL!!

"Gary S. Terhune" wrote:

> Note that MS05-002 (KB891711) *doesn't* appear on that list, because it
> was a re-issued Update and not part of the same workflow (word has it
> that PSS wasn't absolutely sure until the last minute that it would go
> live when it did.)
>
> This occasionally occurs with other updates, too, which is one of the
> reasons using Windows Updates is so much more preferable to any other
> method (for Win99/98SE/ME systems, at least.)
>
> --
> Gary S. Terhune
> MS MVP Shell/User
> http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
> http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm
>
> "John" <nospam@nospam.ca> wrote in message
> news:gn1r51p15dqp20cknb9fb1hna5dfch4su7@4ax.com...
> > Thanks, Gary!
> >
> > On Wed, 13 Apr 2005 12:27:23 -0700, "Gary S. Terhune"
> <grystnews@mvps.org>
> > wrote:
> >
> > >There are at least two for Win98/98SE:
> > >http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=890923
> > >http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=891711 (this is a re-issued
> update.)
> > >
> > >Here's the whole list for yesterday:
> > >http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/Bulletin/ms05-apr.mspx
> > >
> > >You *should* use Windows Updates to get your patches, though.
> >
> >
> > John <><
> >
> > A wise monkey is a monkey who doesn't monkey
> > with an other monkey's monkey.
> > (A very free paraphrase of Exodus 20:14).
>
>

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I still do not know why you dislike using Windows Update, darkrats. The
advantages of Windows Update are that it is targetted to each user's machine.
2. It helps Microsoft release patches in a secure arena since everyone wants
to destroy people's computers with false patches -- eg false security
newsletters, false downloads, downloads of Adaware SE that contain a 2.5 Mini
Keylogger that happened to me from download.com when my XP SP 2 was hacked,
etc.
3. It is so kind of Microsoft to realize that their is a critical need for
98SE in the marketplace 4. Longhorn should be released in 2007 and expect
some surprises that no one but Bill Gates himself knows 5. Bye and have a
great rest of the week

Sincerely, Dan -- posted to the unknown Alias of "darkrats" a first name
would be nice since it is really hard to know someone named darkrats and I
always liked the light better than the dark although the darkness allows me
to sleep well. Have a nice life and be seeing you darkrats or whoever/many
people or just one individual you are -------- and the million dollar
question for me to you is what is darkrats first name <???>

"darkrats" wrote:

> Here we go again.
>
> Thanks for posting the information pages.
> Can you please post a direct link to the KB890923 item for 98/ME.
>
> I don't see it on any of the pages.
> And I would prefer not to use "Windows Update".
>
> Any help would be much appreciated.
>
> darkrats
>
>
>
> "Gary S. Terhune" <grystnews@mvps.org> wrote in message
> newsvdsJ7FQFHA.3356@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> > There are at least two for Win98/98SE:
> > http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=890923
> > http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=891711 (this is a re-issued update.)
> >
> > Here's the whole list for yesterday:
> > http://www.microsoft.com/technet/s [...] 5-apr.mspx
> >
> > You *should* use Windows Updates to get your patches, though.
> >
> > --
> > Gary S. Terhune
> > MS MVP Shell/User
> > http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
> > http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm
> >
> > "John" <nospam@nospam.ca> wrote in message
> > newssbq519b9em3n05l7lavria07no62lusp8@4ax.com...
> > > In the news today it was announced that all Windows OS's, back to W98,
> > need
> > > critical security updates installed.
> > > Going to the Microsoft site, I don't see any updates for W98 - they
> > all seem to
> > > be for XP, ME, 2000 etc.
> > >
> > > Any suggestions?
> > >
> > > John <><
> > >
> > > A wise monkey is a monkey who doesn't monkey
> > > with an other monkey's monkey.
> > > (A very free paraphrase of Exodus 20:14).
> >
>
>
>

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I'll probably get it the same way I got the last one. Wait until enough
people download it, and then retrieve it from someone's TIF folder.

darkrats



"Dan" <Dan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:C9ACB81C-DC2D-4948-BB88-2FC549ACB264@microsoft.com...
> I still do not know why you dislike using Windows Update, darkrats. The
> advantages of Windows Update are that it is targetted to each user's
machine.
> 2. It helps Microsoft release patches in a secure arena since everyone
wants
> to destroy people's computers with false patches -- eg false security
> newsletters, false downloads, downloads of Adaware SE that contain a 2.5
Mini
> Keylogger that happened to me from download.com when my XP SP 2 was
hacked,
> etc.
> 3. It is so kind of Microsoft to realize that their is a critical need
for
> 98SE in the marketplace 4. Longhorn should be released in 2007 and expect
> some surprises that no one but Bill Gates himself knows 5. Bye and have a
> great rest of the week
>
> Sincerely, Dan -- posted to the unknown Alias of "darkrats" a first name
> would be nice since it is really hard to know someone named darkrats and I
> always liked the light better than the dark although the darkness allows
me
> to sleep well. Have a nice life and be seeing you darkrats or
whoever/many
> people or just one individual you are -------- and the million dollar
> question for me to you is what is darkrats first name <???>
>
> "darkrats" wrote:
>
> > Here we go again.
> >
> > Thanks for posting the information pages.
> > Can you please post a direct link to the KB890923 item for 98/ME.
> >
> > I don't see it on any of the pages.
> > And I would prefer not to use "Windows Update".
> >
> > Any help would be much appreciated.
> >
> > darkrats
> >
> >
> >
> > "Gary S. Terhune" <grystnews@mvps.org> wrote in message
> > newsvdsJ7FQFHA.3356@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> > > There are at least two for Win98/98SE:
> > > http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=890923
> > > http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=891711 (this is a re-issued
update.)
> > >
> > > Here's the whole list for yesterday:
> > > http://www.microsoft.com/technet/s [...] 5-apr.mspx
> > >
> > > You *should* use Windows Updates to get your patches, though.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Gary S. Terhune
> > > MS MVP Shell/User
> > > http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
> > > http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm
> > >
> > > "John" <nospam@nospam.ca> wrote in message
> > > newssbq519b9em3n05l7lavria07no62lusp8@4ax.com...
> > > > In the news today it was announced that all Windows OS's, back to
W98,
> > > need
> > > > critical security updates installed.
> > > > Going to the Microsoft site, I don't see any updates for W98 - they
> > > all seem to
> > > > be for XP, ME, 2000 etc.
> > > >
> > > > Any suggestions?
> > > >
> > > > John <><
> > > >
> > > > A wise monkey is a monkey who doesn't monkey
> > > > with an other monkey's monkey.
> > > > (A very free paraphrase of Exodus 20:14).
> > >
> >
> >
> >

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That didn't take long.
Found and installed on my system.

darkrats



"darkrats" <darkrats@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:#iwEeIIQFHA.3988@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> I'll probably get it the same way I got the last one. Wait until enough
> people download it, and then retrieve it from someone's TIF folder.
>
> darkrats
>
>
>
> "Dan" <Dan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:C9ACB81C-DC2D-4948-BB88-2FC549ACB264@microsoft.com...
> > I still do not know why you dislike using Windows Update, darkrats. The
> > advantages of Windows Update are that it is targetted to each user's
> machine.
> > 2. It helps Microsoft release patches in a secure arena since everyone
> wants
> > to destroy people's computers with false patches -- eg false security
> > newsletters, false downloads, downloads of Adaware SE that contain a 2.5
> Mini
> > Keylogger that happened to me from download.com when my XP SP 2 was
> hacked,
> > etc.
> > 3. It is so kind of Microsoft to realize that their is a critical need
> for
> > 98SE in the marketplace 4. Longhorn should be released in 2007 and
expect
> > some surprises that no one but Bill Gates himself knows 5. Bye and have
a
> > great rest of the week
> >
> > Sincerely, Dan -- posted to the unknown Alias of "darkrats" a first
name
> > would be nice since it is really hard to know someone named darkrats and
I
> > always liked the light better than the dark although the darkness allows
> me
> > to sleep well. Have a nice life and be seeing you darkrats or
> whoever/many
> > people or just one individual you are -------- and the million dollar
> > question for me to you is what is darkrats first name <???>
> >
> > "darkrats" wrote:
> >
> > > Here we go again.
> > >
> > > Thanks for posting the information pages.
> > > Can you please post a direct link to the KB890923 item for 98/ME.
> > >
> > > I don't see it on any of the pages.
> > > And I would prefer not to use "Windows Update".
> > >
> > > Any help would be much appreciated.
> > >
> > > darkrats
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "Gary S. Terhune" <grystnews@mvps.org> wrote in message
> > > newsvdsJ7FQFHA.3356@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> > > > There are at least two for Win98/98SE:
> > > > http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=890923
> > > > http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=891711 (this is a re-issued
> update.)
> > > >
> > > > Here's the whole list for yesterday:
> > > > http://www.microsoft.com/technet/s [...] 5-apr.mspx
> > > >
> > > > You *should* use Windows Updates to get your patches, though.
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Gary S. Terhune
> > > > MS MVP Shell/User
> > > > http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
> > > > http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm
> > > >
> > > > "John" <nospam@nospam.ca> wrote in message
> > > > newssbq519b9em3n05l7lavria07no62lusp8@4ax.com...
> > > > > In the news today it was announced that all Windows OS's, back to
> W98,
> > > > need
> > > > > critical security updates installed.
> > > > > Going to the Microsoft site, I don't see any updates for W98 -
they
> > > > all seem to
> > > > > be for XP, ME, 2000 etc.
> > > > >
> > > > > Any suggestions?
> > > > >
> > > > > John <><
> > > > >
> > > > > A wise monkey is a monkey who doesn't monkey
> > > > > with an other monkey's monkey.
> > > > > (A very free paraphrase of Exodus 20:14).
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
>
>

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My plan is to avoid ME , XP etc. and go straight to longhorn when it comes
out. Will I be able to survive until then on 98SE?

Dan wrote:
> I still do not know why you dislike using Windows Update, darkrats.
> The advantages of Windows Update are that it is targetted to each
> user's machine.
> 2. It helps Microsoft release patches in a secure arena since
> everyone wants to destroy people's computers with false patches -- eg
> false security newsletters, false downloads, downloads of Adaware SE
> that contain a 2.5 Mini Keylogger that happened to me from
> download.com when my XP SP 2 was hacked, etc.
> 3. It is so kind of Microsoft to realize that their is a critical
> need for 98SE in the marketplace 4. Longhorn should be released in
> 2007 and expect some surprises that no one but Bill Gates himself
> knows 5. Bye and have a great rest of the week
>
> Sincerely, Dan -- posted to the unknown Alias of "darkrats" a first
> name would be nice since it is really hard to know someone named
> darkrats and I always liked the light better than the dark although
> the darkness allows me to sleep well. Have a nice life and be seeing
> you darkrats or whoever/many people or just one individual you are
> -------- and the million dollar question for me to you is what is
> darkrats first name <???>
>
> "darkrats" wrote:
>
>> Here we go again.
>>
>> Thanks for posting the information pages.
>> Can you please post a direct link to the KB890923 item for 98/ME.
>>
>> I don't see it on any of the pages.
>> And I would prefe