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On Feb.25th I posted a request for help in getting "standby" working again.
In response to your reply;
If you can't solve the problem, I don't think you should reply. I needed
help, NOT YOUR SERMON!!!!
Respectfully,
Leo

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LEO wrote:
> On Feb.25th I posted a request for help in getting "standby" working
again.
> In response to your reply;
> If you can't solve the problem, I don't think you should reply. I needed
> help, NOT YOUR SERMON!!!!
> Respectfully,
> Leo

But today is Sunday, after all is said and done.

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I read Gary's reply, and it was not a sermon, but an explanation of why it is
difficult if not impossible to troubleshoot Standby problems. If you have a problem
with that, I wouldn't expect getting much in the way of further replies.

This is about all that can be offered in the way of remote help....the rest is up to
you on the machine in question -
Standby Missing From Windows Shutdown Dialog Box :
http://support.microsoft.com?kbid=188134
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm


"LEO" <LEO@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> On Feb.25th I posted a request for help in getting "standby" working again.
> In response to your reply;
> If you can't solve the problem, I don't think you should reply. I needed
> help, NOT YOUR SERMON!!!!
> Respectfully,
> Leo
>

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You are posting in a public forum. You will get replies from members of the
public, and others. Ignore anything that you judge not to be useful.

"LEO" wrote:

> On Feb.25th I posted a request for help in getting "standby" working again.
> In response to your reply;
> If you can't solve the problem, I don't think you should reply. I needed
> help, NOT YOUR SERMON!!!!
> Respectfully,
> Leo
>

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"LEO" <LEO@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:E17349B6-C042-4501-A4EE-0F44C1CECE7C@microsoft.com...
> On Feb.25th I posted a request for help in getting "standby" working
again.
> In response to your reply;
> If you can't solve the problem, I don't think you should reply.

First, you have NO say about who replies to any post
in an unmoderated Newsgroup, or the content of that reply,
or even the tone of the reply. You get what you pay for,
and you take from it that which you deem worthwhile,
and you discard the remainder, albeit, possibly, at your peril.

Second, there was nothing whatsoever incorrect or improper
about the advice that you received. We don't waste our time
in this Newsgroup. We provide good, relevant advice.
If you don't like the advice that you received because of
an apparent closed-mind, then that is unfortunate,
but that is your problem, not ours, and it isn't going
to change our determination as to the proper response
in a given situation.

Finally, and I do mean finally, how would you ever determine
that a problem is basically unsolvable and that a workaround
is a better approach unless that fact is pointed out to you.

> I needed help,

We know you need help. That's why most people post here.

> NOT YOUR SERMON!!!!

That wasn't a sermon. Gary provides leadership
and good advice. That is why he was recognized by Microsoft
and his peers as worthy of the MVP award.

What, you think that he somehow suddenly became incompetent
just because you asked a question about a topic
that you have strong feelings about
and didn't like the answers you got?

We are not in the habit of engaging in ego battles here.
You may now find people reluctant to respond to you.

> Respectfully,

Not from my perspective.....

> Leo

Hugh

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http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=188134 Restore Missing Standby

It may have removed itself due to two failures in a row. Now, perhaps do
not go absolutely nuts inside Device Manager. It can be quite a shock to
see Windows continually reboot, should you remove too many devices at
once. Also, there are those (I am forbid to say the name Terhune) who
passionately say: Standby is not worth the trouble it is to recover.

http://search.support.microsoft.co [...] N&LN=EN-US MSKB
Search "Your computer cannot go on standby"; Windows 98; Exact Match;
Full Text.

http://support.microsoft.com/defau [...] roduct=w98
Err Msg: Your Computer Cannot Go on Standby Because a Device...
(188246) - When your attempt to put Windows 98 or Windows Millennium
Edition (Me) in Standby mode, you may receive the following error
message: Your computer cannot go on standby because a device driver or
program won't allow it. Close all programs and try...

http://support.microsoft.com/defau [...] roduct=w98
Computer May Be Unable to Start Standby Mode
(232728) - When your computer attempts to start Standby mode, you may
receive the following error message: Your computer cannot go on standby
because a device driver or program won't allow it. Close all open
programs, and then try again.

http://support.microsoft.com/defau [...] roduct=w98
Cannot Use Standby Mode with USB Epson Stylus 740 Printer
(232902) - When you attempt to place your computer in Standby mode, you
may receive the following error message: Your computer cannot go on
standby because a device driver or program won't allow it. Close all
open programs, and then try again. If you click OK,...

http://support.microsoft.com/defau [...] roduct=w98
Error Message Disables Power Management Events
(232942) - When you receive the error message "Your computer cannot go
into standby," any of the following symptoms may occur:


--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR
pcrrcp@netzero.net
"LEO" <LEO@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:E17349B6-C042-4501-A4EE-0F44C1CECE7C@microsoft.com...
| On Feb.25th I posted a request for help in getting "standby" working
again.
| In response to your reply;
| If you can't solve the problem, I don't think you should reply. I
needed
| help, NOT YOUR SERMON!!!!
| Respectfully,
| Leo
|

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Hello Leo,
Lurk a while, and you will find gary not only informative
but a friend also.
One of his good traits is to not beat around the bush. If he sees
something wrong in something he will say it in spades, and if you
listen with "his good intent at heart" you will find it will be to your
advantage and not a spank.

regards Jane

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You still have permission to mention his name?

--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR
pcrrcp@netzero.net
"jane" <jane@internet.com> wrote in message
news:eSL4weXHFHA.4084@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
| Hello Leo,
| Lurk a while, and you will find gary not only informative
| but a friend also.
| One of his good traits is to not beat around the bush. If he sees
| something wrong in something he will say it in spades, and if you
| listen with "his good intent at heart" you will find it will be to
your
| advantage and not a spank.
|
| regards Jane
|
|

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> You still have permission to mention his name?

Uh Oh,.......
What have I done now?

regards Jane

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And now it is Tuesday March 1, 2005 -- LOL!!

"Bill in Co." <someone@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:urG10VQHFHA.2456@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
: LEO wrote:
: > On Feb.25th I posted a request for help in getting "standby" working
: again.
: > In response to your reply;
: > If you can't solve the problem, I don't think you should reply. I needed
: > help, NOT YOUR SERMON!!!!
: > Respectfully,
: > Leo
:
: But today is Sunday, after all is said and done.
:
:

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Good Advice, Hugh. This helps me as well. <smile> Have a great day.

"Hugh Candlin" <No@MeansNo.Com> wrote in message
newsQHzAiSHFHA.3336@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
:
: "LEO" <LEO@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
: news:E17349B6-C042-4501-A4EE-0F44C1CECE7C@microsoft.com...
: > On Feb.25th I posted a request for help in getting "standby" working
: again.
: > In response to your reply;
: > If you can't solve the problem, I don't think you should reply.
:
: First, you have NO say about who replies to any post
: in an unmoderated Newsgroup, or the content of that reply,
: or even the tone of the reply. You get what you pay for,
: and you take from it that which you deem worthwhile,
: and you discard the remainder, albeit, possibly, at your peril.
:
: Second, there was nothing whatsoever incorrect or improper
: about the advice that you received. We don't waste our time
: in this Newsgroup. We provide good, relevant advice.
: If you don't like the advice that you received because of
: an apparent closed-mind, then that is unfortunate,
: but that is your problem, not ours, and it isn't going
: to change our determination as to the proper response
: in a given situation.
:
: Finally, and I do mean finally, how would you ever determine
: that a problem is basically unsolvable and that a workaround
: is a better approach unless that fact is pointed out to you.
:
: > I needed help,
:
: We know you need help. That's why most people post here.
:
: > NOT YOUR SERMON!!!!
:
: That wasn't a sermon. Gary provides leadership
: and good advice. That is why he was recognized by Microsoft
: and his peers as worthy of the MVP award.
:
: What, you think that he somehow suddenly became incompetent
: just because you asked a question about a topic
: that you have strong feelings about
: and didn't like the answers you got?
:
: We are not in the habit of engaging in ego battles here.
: You may now find people reluctant to respond to you.
:
: > Respectfully,
:
: Not from my perspective.....
:
: > Leo
:
: Hugh
:
:

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No, never mind.

--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR
pcrrcp@netzero.net
"jane" <jane@internet.com> wrote in message
news:e9CYWlkHFHA.1392@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
|
| > You still have permission to mention his name?
|
| Uh Oh,.......
| What have I done now?
|
| regards Jane
|
|

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Nothing Jane --- PCR and Gary still have some kind of argument that goes way
back before the dawn of time (I am exaggerating) and PCR still thinks he can
insult Gary and Gary has ignored him and plunked him because of it. This is
the way that I see it but I may be wrong and look forward to hearing a
correction from PCR and Gary.

"jane" <jane@internet.com> wrote in message
news:e9CYWlkHFHA.1392@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
:
: > You still have permission to mention his name?
:
: Uh Oh,.......
: What have I done now?
:
: regards Jane
:
:

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I never insulted him until after the plonking! And it's doubtful I did
it even then, considering there may be humor in my posts!

--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR
pcrrcp@netzero.net
"Dan" <spamyou@user.nec> wrote in message
news:uRWvJQpHFHA.2564@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
| Nothing Jane --- PCR and Gary still have some kind of argument that
goes way
| back before the dawn of time (I am exaggerating) and PCR still thinks
he can
| insult Gary and Gary has ignored him and plunked him because of it.
This is
| the way that I see it but I may be wrong and look forward to hearing a
| correction from PCR and Gary.
|
| "jane" <jane@internet.com> wrote in message
| news:e9CYWlkHFHA.1392@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
| :
| : > You still have permission to mention his name?
| :
| : Uh Oh,.......
| : What have I done now?
| :
| : regards Jane
| :
| :
|
|

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Hello? Candlin?

--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR
pcrrcp@netzero.net
"Hugh Candlin" <No@MeansNo.Com> wrote in message
newsQHzAiSHFHA.3336@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
|
| "LEO" <LEO@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
| news:E17349B6-C042-4501-A4EE-0F44C1CECE7C@microsoft.com...
| > On Feb.25th I posted a request for help in getting "standby" working
| again.
| > In response to your reply;
| > If you can't solve the problem, I don't think you should reply.
|
| First, you have NO say about who replies to any post
| in an unmoderated Newsgroup, or the content of that reply,
| or even the tone of the reply. You get what you pay for,
| and you take from it that which you deem worthwhile,
| and you discard the remainder, albeit, possibly, at your peril.
|
| Second, there was nothing whatsoever incorrect or improper
| about the advice that you received. We don't waste our time
| in this Newsgroup. We provide good, relevant advice.
| If you don't like the advice that you received because of
| an apparent closed-mind, then that is unfortunate,
| but that is your problem, not ours, and it isn't going
| to change our determination as to the proper response
| in a given situation.
|
| Finally, and I do mean finally, how would you ever determine
| that a problem is basically unsolvable and that a workaround
| is a better approach unless that fact is pointed out to you.
|
| > I needed help,
|
| We know you need help. That's why most people post here.
|
| > NOT YOUR SERMON!!!!
|
| That wasn't a sermon. Gary provides leadership
| and good advice. That is why he was recognized by Microsoft
| and his peers as worthy of the MVP award.
|
| What, you think that he somehow suddenly became incompetent
| just because you asked a question about a topic
| that you have strong feelings about
| and didn't like the answers you got?
|
| We are not in the habit of engaging in ego battles here.
| You may now find people reluctant to respond to you.
|
| > Respectfully,
|
| Not from my perspective.....
|
| > Leo
|
| Hugh
|
|

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You're wrong, <s>. PCR has never, to my knowledge, seriously insulted
me. In fact, it's just the opposite. I have insulted him on several
occasions--with reason, as far as I'm concerned--regarding his posting
ideology, his lack of accuracy and specificity in favor of huge lists of
references salted with "cute" verbiage. He's not a bad person. It's just
much easier for me to get through the day if I ignore him and his posts.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm

"Dan" <spamyou@user.nec> wrote in message
news:uRWvJQpHFHA.2564@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> Nothing Jane --- PCR and Gary still have some kind of argument that
goes way
> back before the dawn of time (I am exaggerating) and PCR still thinks
he can
> insult Gary and Gary has ignored him and plunked him because of it.
This is
> the way that I see it but I may be wrong and look forward to hearing a
> correction from PCR and Gary.
>
> "jane" <jane@internet.com> wrote in message
> news:e9CYWlkHFHA.1392@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> :
> : > You still have permission to mention his name?
> :
> : Uh Oh,.......
> : What have I done now?
> :
> : regards Jane
> :
> :
>
>

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Thanks for letting me see your side, PCR.

"PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
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: I never insulted him until after the plonking! And it's doubtful I did
: it even then, considering there may be humor in my posts!
:
: --
: Thanks or Good Luck,
: There may be humor in this post, and,
: Naturally, you will not sue,
: should things get worse after this,
: PCR
: pcrrcp@netzero.net
: "Dan" <spamyou@user.nec> wrote in message
: news:uRWvJQpHFHA.2564@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
: | Nothing Jane --- PCR and Gary still have some kind of argument that
: goes way
: | back before the dawn of time (I am exaggerating) and PCR still thinks
: he can
: | insult Gary and Gary has ignored him and plunked him because of it.
: This is
: | the way that I see it but I may be wrong and look forward to hearing a
: | correction from PCR and Gary.
: |
: | "jane" <jane@internet.com> wrote in message
: | news:e9CYWlkHFHA.1392@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
: | :
: | : > You still have permission to mention his name?
: | :
: | : Uh Oh,.......
: | : What have I done now?
: | :
: | : regards Jane
: | :
: | :
: |
: |
:
:

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PCR, please have more respect for Hugh Candlin and Gary S. Terhune. I am
starting to get wary of your posts as well but you do have great information
from time to time and fortunately I am not ready to plonk you yet. I still
have hope that you, Gary S. Terhune and Hugh Candlin can work things out.
Have a great night.

"PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
news:ejiwmlpHFHA.2744@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
: Hello? Candlin?
:
: --
: Thanks or Good Luck,
: There may be humor in this post, and,
: Naturally, you will not sue,
: should things get worse after this,
: PCR
: pcrrcp@netzero.net
: "Hugh Candlin" <No@MeansNo.Com> wrote in message
: newsQHzAiSHFHA.3336@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
: |
: | "LEO" <LEO@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
: | news:E17349B6-C042-4501-A4EE-0F44C1CECE7C@microsoft.com...
: | > On Feb.25th I posted a request for help in getting "standby" working
: | again.
: | > In response to your reply;
: | > If you can't solve the problem, I don't think you should reply.
: |
: | First, you have NO say about who replies to any post
: | in an unmoderated Newsgroup, or the content of that reply,
: | or even the tone of the reply. You get what you pay for,
: | and you take from it that which you deem worthwhile,
: | and you discard the remainder, albeit, possibly, at your peril.
: |
: | Second, there was nothing whatsoever incorrect or improper
: | about the advice that you received. We don't waste our time
: | in this Newsgroup. We provide good, relevant advice.
: | If you don't like the advice that you received because of
: | an apparent closed-mind, then that is unfortunate,
: | but that is your problem, not ours, and it isn't going
: | to change our determination as to the proper response
: | in a given situation.
: |
: | Finally, and I do mean finally, how would you ever determine
: | that a problem is basically unsolvable and that a workaround
: | is a better approach unless that fact is pointed out to you.
: |
: | > I needed help,
: |
: | We know you need help. That's why most people post here.
: |
: | > NOT YOUR SERMON!!!!
: |
: | That wasn't a sermon. Gary provides leadership
: | and good advice. That is why he was recognized by Microsoft
: | and his peers as worthy of the MVP award.
: |
: | What, you think that he somehow suddenly became incompetent
: | just because you asked a question about a topic
: | that you have strong feelings about
: | and didn't like the answers you got?
: |
: | We are not in the habit of engaging in ego battles here.
: | You may now find people reluctant to respond to you.
: |
: | > Respectfully,
: |
: | Not from my perspective.....
: |
: | > Leo
: |
: | Hugh
: |
: |
:
: