drives visible in Windows Device Manager but not in Explorer

Archived from groups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage,comp.periphs.scsi,alt.os.windows2000 (More info?)

I[m posting this question only after searching Google and the MS
Knowledge Base. Thank you in advance for responding to this question.

I have a Win 2000 system, self-assembled. Works great. Drive
subsystem is SCSI based, using a Tekram 3900 U3W SCSI host adapter. I
normally have three wide SCSI drives attached, either 36 or 72 GB
each.

Today, I tried to attach two new SCSI drives to my system by removing
the two non-boot drives. I could see the newly attached drives in
Device Manager, but _not_ in Explorer. The drives were also not
visible in the Disk Management folder within Computer Management
(Administrative Tasks cpl.), even though I would expect to see these
drives even if they were not formatted.

What is my next step?
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  1. Archived from groups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage,comp.periphs.scsi,alt.os.windows2000 (More info?)

    On Sat, 26 Mar 2005 22:07:17 -0800, Lady Margaret Thatcher
    <Was_at_10_Downing_Street@bad_for_the_UK.org> wrote:

    >I[m posting this question only after searching Google and the MS
    >Knowledge Base. Thank you in advance for responding to this question.
    >
    >I have a Win 2000 system, self-assembled. Works great. Drive
    >subsystem is SCSI based, using a Tekram 3900 U3W SCSI host adapter. I
    >normally have three wide SCSI drives attached, either 36 or 72 GB
    >each.
    >
    >Today, I tried to attach two new SCSI drives to my system by removing
    >the two non-boot drives. I could see the newly attached drives in
    >Device Manager, but _not_ in Explorer. The drives were also not
    >visible in the Disk Management folder within Computer Management
    >(Administrative Tasks cpl.), even though I would expect to see these
    >drives even if they were not formatted.
    >
    >What is my next step?
    >

    Howdy,

    I hesitate to ask, but...

    Is there any possibility that in Explorer | Tools | Folder
    Options | View you have Show Hidden Files turned OFF?

    HTH,

    --
    Kenneth

    If you email... Please remove the "SPAMLESS."
  2. Archived from groups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage,comp.periphs.scsi,alt.os.windows2000 (More info?)

    "Lady Margaret Thatcher" <Was_at_10_Downing_Street@bad_for_the_UK.org> wrote
    in message news:egic419saq31iagt55kjvu3fn1fe400tln@4ax.com...
    >
    > I have a Win 2000 system, self-assembled. Works great. Drive
    > subsystem is SCSI based, using a Tekram 3900 U3W SCSI host adapter. I
    > normally have three wide SCSI drives attached, either 36 or 72 GB
    > each.
    >
    > Today, I tried to attach two new SCSI drives to my system by removing
    > the two non-boot drives. I could see the newly attached drives in
    > Device Manager, but _not_ in Explorer. The drives were also not
    > visible in the Disk Management folder within Computer Management
    > (Administrative Tasks cpl.), even though I would expect to see these
    > drives even if they were not formatted.
    >
    This might happen if the disk does not spin up or is unreadable (the MBR).
    You should verify the drives from SCSI setup or Bart's scsitool from a
    floppy.
  3. Archived from groups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage,comp.periphs.scsi,alt.os.windows2000 (More info?)

    Lady Margaret Thatcher wrote:

    >I[m posting this question only after searching Google and the MS
    >Knowledge Base. Thank you in advance for responding to this question.
    >
    >I have a Win 2000 system, self-assembled. Works great. Drive
    >subsystem is SCSI based, using a Tekram 3900 U3W SCSI host adapter. I
    >normally have three wide SCSI drives attached, either 36 or 72 GB
    >each.
    >
    >Today, I tried to attach two new SCSI drives to my system by removing
    >the two non-boot drives. I could see the newly attached drives in
    >Device Manager, but _not_ in Explorer. The drives were also not
    >visible in the Disk Management folder within Computer Management
    >(Administrative Tasks cpl.), even though I would expect to see these
    >drives even if they were not formatted.
    >
    >What is my next step?
    >
    >
    >
    >
    Hi,
    Took care of I/O cable of termination properly(very important)? Checked
    in SCSI BIOS?
    I run all SCSI W2K as well.
    Tony
  4. Archived from groups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage,comp.periphs.scsi,alt.os.windows2000 (More info?)

    On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 08:04:14 -0500, Kenneth
    <usenet@SPAMLESSsoleassociates.com> wrote:

    >On Sat, 26 Mar 2005 22:07:17 -0800, Lady Margaret Thatcher
    ><Was_at_10_Downing_Street@bad_for_the_UK.org> wrote:
    >
    >>I[m posting this question only after searching Google and the MS
    >>Knowledge Base. Thank you in advance for responding to this question.
    >>
    >>I have a Win 2000 system, self-assembled. Works great. Drive
    >>subsystem is SCSI based, using a Tekram 3900 U3W SCSI host adapter. I
    >>normally have three wide SCSI drives attached, either 36 or 72 GB
    >>each.

    >
    >I hesitate to ask, but...
    >
    >Is there any possibility that in Explorer | Tools | Folder
    >Options | View you have Show Hidden Files turned OFF?

    No. I also mentioned that the Storage Management system tools can't
    see the drives either.
  5. Archived from groups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage,comp.periphs.scsi,alt.os.windows2000 (More info?)

    On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 08:57:12 -0800, "Eric Gisin"
    <ericgisin@hotmail.com> wrote:

    >"Lady Margaret Thatcher" <Was_at_10_Downing_Street@bad_for_the_UK.org> wrote
    >in message news:egic419saq31iagt55kjvu3fn1fe400tln@4ax.com...
    >>
    >> I have a Win 2000 system, self-assembled. Works great. Drive
    >> subsystem is SCSI based, using a Tekram 3900 U3W SCSI host adapter. I
    >> normally have three wide SCSI drives attached, either 36 or 72 GB
    >> each.
    >>
    >> Today, I tried to attach two new SCSI drives to my system by removing
    >> the two non-boot drives. I could see the newly attached drives in
    >> Device Manager, but _not_ in Explorer. The drives were also not
    >> visible in the Disk Management folder within Computer Management
    >> (Administrative Tasks cpl.), even though I would expect to see these
    >> drives even if they were not formatted.
    >>
    >This might happen if the disk does not spin up or is unreadable (the MBR).
    >You should verify the drives from SCSI setup or Bart's scsitool from a
    >floppy.

    Thanks. That suggestion seems right on target. Time for another
    visit to Bart L.'s web site.

    This is slightly off topic, but what does this guy do for a living?
    He seems to have put enormous amounts of time into his web site. It's
    an amazing resource.
  6. Archived from groups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage,comp.periphs.scsi,alt.os.windows2000 (More info?)

    On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 17:39:09 GMT, Tony Hwang <dragon40@shaw.ca> wrote:

    >Lady Margaret Thatcher wrote:
    >
    >>I[m posting this question only after searching Google and the MS
    >>Knowledge Base. Thank you in advance for responding to this question.
    >>
    >>I have a Win 2000 system, self-assembled. Works great. Drive
    >>subsystem is SCSI based, using a Tekram 3900 U3W SCSI host adapter. I
    >>normally have three wide SCSI drives attached, either 36 or 72 GB
    >>each.
    >>
    >>Today, I tried to attach two new SCSI drives to my system by removing
    >>the two non-boot drives. I could see the newly attached drives in
    >>Device Manager, but _not_ in Explorer. The drives were also not
    >>visible in the Disk Management folder within Computer Management
    >>(Administrative Tasks cpl.), even though I would expect to see these
    >>drives even if they were not formatted.
    >>
    >>What is my next step?
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >Hi,
    >Took care of I/O cable of termination properly(very important)? Checked
    >in SCSI BIOS?
    >I run all SCSI W2K as well.


    >Tony

    Tony, thanks. I mentioned above that I removed the two non-boot
    drives, and replaced them with the new drives. Unless there is some
    really weird mojo with the cables, then I have to assume that there
    are no termination issues. My Tekram controller detects the drives
    and their firmware rev. levels. It's Windows that is the problem.
  7. Archived from groups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage,comp.periphs.scsi,alt.os.windows2000 (More info?)

    In article <egic419saq31iagt55kjvu3fn1fe400tln@4ax.com>, Was_at_10
    _Downing_Street@bad_for_the_UK.org says...
    > I[m posting this question only after searching Google and the MS
    > Knowledge Base. Thank you in advance for responding to this question.
    >
    > I have a Win 2000 system, self-assembled. Works great. Drive
    > subsystem is SCSI based, using a Tekram 3900 U3W SCSI host adapter. I
    > normally have three wide SCSI drives attached, either 36 or 72 GB
    > each.
    >
    > Today, I tried to attach two new SCSI drives to my system by removing
    > the two non-boot drives. I could see the newly attached drives in
    > Device Manager, but _not_ in Explorer. The drives were also not
    > visible in the Disk Management folder within Computer Management
    > (Administrative Tasks cpl.), even though I would expect to see these
    > drives even if they were not formatted.
    >
    > What is my next step?
    >

    hi ,

    are any partitions on this disks ? let me guess : extended file systems
    ?

    if you insert a blank disk ( usually ) you can work in one straight line
    til the formatted partition .

    --
    gruss , wolfgang
    ---<---@
    gravity still lives
  8. Archived from groups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage,comp.periphs.scsi,alt.os.windows2000 (More info?)

    On Mon, 28 Mar 2005 00:25:25 +0200, wolfgang schneider
    <schnusi@gmx.net> wrote:

    >In article <egic419saq31iagt55kjvu3fn1fe400tln@4ax.com>, Was_at_10
    >_Downing_Street@bad_for_the_UK.org says...
    >> I[m posting this question only after searching Google and the MS
    >> Knowledge Base. Thank you in advance for responding to this question.
    >>
    >> I have a Win 2000 system, self-assembled. Works great. Drive
    >> subsystem is SCSI based, using a Tekram 3900 U3W SCSI host adapter. I
    >> normally have three wide SCSI drives attached, either 36 or 72 GB
    >> each.
    >>
    >> Today, I tried to attach two new SCSI drives to my system by removing
    >> the two non-boot drives. I could see the newly attached drives in
    >> Device Manager, but _not_ in Explorer. The drives were also not
    >> visible in the Disk Management folder within Computer Management
    >> (Administrative Tasks cpl.), even though I would expect to see these
    >> drives even if they were not formatted.
    >>
    >> What is my next step?
    >>
    >
    >hi ,
    >
    >are any partitions on this disks ? let me guess : extended file systems
    >?
    >
    >if you insert a blank disk ( usually ) you can work in one straight line
    >til the formatted partition .

    Wolffang,

    What do you mean by "Insert a blank disk?" Do you mean a floppy disk?
    What do you mean by "work in one straight line?"

    Danke Schoen
  9. Archived from groups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage,comp.periphs.scsi,alt.os.windows2000 (More info?)

    In article <rhdf415l77j9snf4kvds61q9k83tgle30e@4ax.com>, Was_at_10
    _Downing_Street@bad_for_the_UK.org says...
    >
    > Wolffang,
    >
    > What do you mean by "Insert a blank disk?" Do you mean a floppy disk?
    > What do you mean by "work in one straight line?"
    >
    > Danke Schoen
    >

    :-)

    hi uppers ,

    no floppy - i ment a brandnew hdd without any partition or else on it .
    load w2k , go to "drive management" , write a signature to the new disks
    , format them , eventually turn them into basic ( instead of dynamic )
    drives . this can all be done in one line .

    excuse my poor english please .

    --
    gruss , wolfgang
    ---<---@
    gravity still lives
  10. Archived from groups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage,comp.periphs.scsi,alt.os.windows2000 (More info?)

    Lady Margaret Thatcher wrote:
    > On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 17:39:09 GMT, Tony Hwang <dragon40@shaw.ca> wrote:
    >
    >
    >>Lady Margaret Thatcher wrote:
    >>
    >>
    >>>I[m posting this question only after searching Google and the MS
    >>>Knowledge Base. Thank you in advance for responding to this question.
    >>>
    >>>I have a Win 2000 system, self-assembled. Works great. Drive
    >>>subsystem is SCSI based, using a Tekram 3900 U3W SCSI host adapter. I
    >>>normally have three wide SCSI drives attached, either 36 or 72 GB
    >>>each.
    >>>
    >>>Today, I tried to attach two new SCSI drives to my system by removing
    >>>the two non-boot drives. I could see the newly attached drives in
    >>>Device Manager, but _not_ in Explorer. The drives were also not
    >>>visible in the Disk Management folder within Computer Management
    >>>(Administrative Tasks cpl.), even though I would expect to see these
    >>>drives even if they were not formatted.
    >>>
    >>>What is my next step?
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>
    >>
    >>Hi,
    >>Took care of I/O cable of termination properly(very important)? Checked
    >>in SCSI BIOS?
    >>I run all SCSI W2K as well.
    >
    >
    >
    >>Tony
    >
    >
    > Tony, thanks. I mentioned above that I removed the two non-boot
    > drives, and replaced them with the new drives. Unless there is some
    > really weird mojo with the cables, then I have to assume that there
    > are no termination issues. My Tekram controller detects the drives
    > and their firmware rev. levels. It's Windows that is the problem.
    >
    Hi,
    Some times drive has id. jumpers and termination jumper. If the drives
    are in the middle of chain, termination is of course not needed.
    Tony
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