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Every time I start my machine, zap pro says its has detected a new IP, the
connection wizard guides me through until zap pro goes back to my system
tray after I click on finish. How do I prevent zap pro from doing this at
every boot up? I am on broadband.

Cheers

N

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DNA <original_dnaNOSPAM@xyzyahoo.com> wrote:
> Every time I start my machine, zap pro says its has detected a new IP, the
> connection wizard guides me through until zap pro goes back to my system
> tray after I click on finish. How do I prevent zap pro from doing this at
> every boot up?

Remove Zonealarm from your PC. You don't need it.

> I am on broadband.

Use the Windows-Firewall.

Yours,
VB.
--
"Es kann nicht sein, dass die Frustrierten in Rom bestimmen, was in
deutschen Schlafzimmern passiert".
Harald Schmidt zum "Weltjugendtag"

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"Volker Birk" <bumens@dingens.org> wrote in message
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> DNA <original_dnaNOSPAM@xyzyahoo.com> wrote:
> > Every time I start my machine, zap pro says its has detected a new IP,
the
> > connection wizard guides me through until zap pro goes back to my system
> > tray after I click on finish. How do I prevent zap pro from doing this
at
> > every boot up?
>
> Remove Zonealarm from your PC. You don't need it.
>
> > I am on broadband.
>
> Use the Windows-Firewall.
>
> Yours,
> VB.
> --
> "Es kann nicht sein, dass die Frustrierten in Rom bestimmen, was in
> deutschen Schlafzimmern passiert".
> Harald Schmidt zum "Weltjugendtag"

I forgot to say I am on Win 2000 pro

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"DNA" <original_dnaNOSPAM@XYZyahoo.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Volker Birk" <bumens@dingens.org> wrote in message
> news:431af12f@news.uni-ulm.de...
> > DNA <original_dnaNOSPAM@xyzyahoo.com> wrote:
> > > Every time I start my machine, zap pro says its has detected a
new IP,
> the
> > > connection wizard guides me through until zap pro goes back to
my system
> > > tray after I click on finish. How do I prevent zap pro from
doing this
> at
> > > every boot up?
> >
> > Remove Zonealarm from your PC. You don't need it.
> >
> > > I am on broadband.
> >
> > Use the Windows-Firewall.
> >
>
> I forgot to say I am on Win 2000 pro
>
V.B doesn't believe in software firewalls, but don't stay connected to
broadband without a firewall of some sort. It sounds like you've got
a corrupted database or bad install of ZoneAlarm. I'd disconnect the
internet, and do an uninstall and re-install of ZA. Be sure to
uncheck Load ZA at startup, and close all other running programs.
Uncheck your Antivirus app on the startup tab if you have msconfig.
(not familiar with Win 2000). Uninstall, Reboot and re-install. If
it's still botched, check at the ZoneLabs community Forums. Lots of
information there. Good Luck.
charlie R

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"DNA" <original_dnaNOSPAM@XYZyahoo.com> wrote in message
news:IbDSe.11691$hv5.5569@fe2.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
>
> "Volker Birk" <bumens@dingens.org> wrote in message
> news:431af12f@news.uni-ulm.de...
> > DNA <original_dnaNOSPAM@xyzyahoo.com> wrote:
> > > Every time I start my machine, zap pro says its has detected a
new IP,
> the
> > > connection wizard guides me through until zap pro goes back to
my system
> > > tray after I click on finish. How do I prevent zap pro from
doing this
> at
> > > every boot up?
> >
> > Remove Zonealarm from your PC. You don't need it.
> >
> > > I am on broadband.
> >
> > Use the Windows-Firewall.
> >
>
> I forgot to say I am on Win 2000 pro
>
V.B doesn't believe in software firewalls, but don't stay connected to
broadband without a firewall of some sort. It sounds like you've got
a corrupted database or bad install of ZoneAlarm. I'd disconnect the
internet, and do an uninstall and re-install of ZA. Be sure to
uncheck Load ZA at startup, and close all other running programs.
Uncheck your Antivirus app on the startup tab if you have msconfig.
(not familiar with Win 2000). Uninstall, Reboot and re-install. If
it's still botched, check at the ZoneLabs community Forums. Lots of
information there. Good Luck.
charlie R

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"DNA" <original_dnaNOSPAM@XYZyahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Every time I start my machine, zap pro says its has detected a new IP, the
> connection wizard guides me through until zap pro goes back to my system
> tray after I click on finish. How do I prevent zap pro from doing this at
> every boot up? I am on broadband.
>
> Cheers
>
> N
>
>

Get rid of ZoneAlarm and get Tiny Personal
Firewall. It is so much better than ZoneAlarm

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"Charles Newman" <charlesnewman1@spamfilter.home.comcast.net> wrote in
message news:xqmdneGbabNow4beRVn-gw@comcast.com...
>
> "DNA" <original_dnaNOSPAM@XYZyahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:zhCSe.3434$ix3.2361@fe1.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
> > Every time I start my machine, zap pro says its has detected a new IP,
the
> > connection wizard guides me through until zap pro goes back to my system
> > tray after I click on finish. How do I prevent zap pro from doing this
at
> > every boot up? I am on broadband.
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > N
> >
> >
>
> Get rid of ZoneAlarm and get Tiny Personal
> Firewall. It is so much better than ZoneAlarm
>
Thanks for the reply, I will try the uninstall method first.

N

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DNA <original_dnaNOSPAM@xyzyahoo.com> wrote:
> I forgot to say I am on Win 2000 pro

Perhaps, then Torsten's script instead of a firewall can help you:

http://ntsvcfg.de/ntsvcfg_eng.html

This script deactivates all servers/network services, Windows is
offering, so you don't need a firewall to filter any more.

If you want a simpler option, maybe my tool here could help; it does
the same for Windows 2000 and Windows XP SP1, what Torsten's script is
doing for any Windows release:

http://www.dingens.org/index.html.en

Yours,
VB.
--
"Es kann nicht sein, dass die Frustrierten in Rom bestimmen, was in
deutschen Schlafzimmern passiert".
Harald Schmidt zum "Weltjugendtag"

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Charles Newman <charlesnewman1@spamfilter.home.comcast.net> wrote:
> Get rid of ZoneAlarm and get Tiny Personal
> Firewall. It is so much better than ZoneAlarm

Both cannot prevent spyware from sending your personal information
across the Internet; both failed in our tests together with the rest of the
"Personal Firewalls".

Both do not make a PC "invisible" or "stealth" in the Internet, as
this is not possible at all.

Tiny "Personal Firewall" does not filter all network services in the
default configuration, Zonealarm does. This point goes to Zonealarm.

Zonealarm is vulnerable to the SelfDoS attack, Tiny not. This point
goes to Tiny.

Tiny "Personal Firewall" installs SYSTEM-Services, which open
windows.

This is a gross error, because this breaches security. Tiny show here,
that they never read Microsoft's design guidlines for system services:

http://msdn.microsoft.com/libr ary/en-us/dllproc/base/interac tive_serv...

For a software, which should enhance security, this design flow means the
declaration of bankruptcy.

I'd not say, it is a good idea to use Zonealarm, though. I'd just
shutdown the network servers which are running in Windows' default
configuration, so no port filter is needed any more. Those tools
could help:

http://www.dingens.org/index.html.en
http://www.ntsvcfg.de/ntsvcfg_eng.html

I'd use IPSec-filtering of Windows 2000, if I had to have a filter with
this operating system. If this is too complicated to configure, perhaps
I'd use Kerio, because this "Personal Firewall" was the least bad
"Personal Firewall" in our test, though I'm not convinced of it at all.

Yours,
VB.
--
"Es kann nicht sein, dass die Frustrierten in Rom bestimmen, was in
deutschen Schlafzimmern passiert".
Harald Schmidt zum "Weltjugendtag"

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Charles Newman <charlesnewman1@spamfilter.home.comcast.net> wrote:
> Get rid of ZoneAlarm and get Tiny Personal
> Firewall. It is so much better than ZoneAlarm

Both cannot prevent spyware from sending your personal information
across the Internet; both failed in our tests together with the rest of the
"Personal Firewalls".

Both do not make a PC "invisible" or "stealth" in the Internet, as
this is not possible at all.

Tiny "Personal Firewall" does not filter all network services in the
default configuration, Zonealarm does. This point goes to Zonealarm.

Zonealarm is vulnerable to the SelfDoS attack, Tiny not. This point
goes to Tiny.

Tiny "Personal Firewall" installs SYSTEM-Services, which open
windows.

This is a gross error, because this breaches security. Tiny show here,
that they never read Microsoft's design guidlines for system services:

http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/ [...] e_services

For a software, which should enhance security, this design flow means the
declaration of bankruptcy.

I'd not say, it is a good idea to use Zonealarm, though. I'd just
shutdown the network servers which are running in Windows' default
configuration, so no port filter is needed any more. Those tools
could help:

http://www.dingens.org/index.html.en
http://www.ntsvcfg.de/ntsvcfg_eng.html

I'd use IPSec-filtering of Windows 2000, if I had to have a filter with
this operating system. If this is too complicated to configure, perhaps
I'd use Kerio, because this "Personal Firewall" was the least bad
"Personal Firewall" in our test, though I'm not convinced of it at all.

Yours,
VB.
--
"Es kann nicht sein, dass die Frustrierten in Rom bestimmen, was in
deutschen Schlafzimmern passiert".
Harald Schmidt zum "Weltjugendtag"

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Charles Newman <charlesnewman1@spamfilter.home.comcast.net> wrote:
> Get rid of ZoneAlarm and get Tiny Personal
> Firewall. It is so much better than ZoneAlarm

Both cannot prevent spyware from sending your personal information
across the Internet; both failed in our tests together with the rest of the
"Personal Firewalls".

Both do not make a PC "invisible" or "stealth" in the Internet, as
this is not possible at all.

Tiny "Personal Firewall" does not filter all network services in the
default configuration, Zonealarm does. This point goes to Zonealarm.

Zonealarm is vulnerable to the SelfDoS attack, Tiny not. This point
goes to Tiny.

Tiny "Personal Firewall" installs SYSTEM-Services, which open
windows.

This is a gross error, because this breaches security. Tiny show here,
that they never read Microsoft's design guidlines for system services:

http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/ [...] ces.asp?fr
ame=true#security_considerations_for_interactive_services

For a software, which should enhance security, this design flaw means the
declaration of bankruptcy.

I'd not say, it is a good idea to use Zonealarm, though. I'd just
shutdown the network servers which are running in Windows' default
configuration, so no port filter is needed any more. Those tools
could help:

http://www.dingens.org/index.html.en
http://www.ntsvcfg.de/ntsvcfg_eng.html

I'd use IPSec-filtering of Windows 2000, if I had to have a filter with
this operating system. If this is too complicated to configure, perhaps
I'd use Kerio, because this "Personal Firewall" was the least bad
"Personal Firewall" in our test, though I'm not convinced of it at all.

Yours,
VB.
--
"Es kann nicht sein, dass die Frustrierten in Rom bestimmen, was in
deutschen Schlafzimmern passiert".
Harald Schmidt zum "Weltjugendtag"

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"Volker Birk" <bumens@dingens.org> wrote in message
news:431b7bd6@news.uni-ulm.de...
> Charles Newman <charlesnewman1@spamfilter.home.comcast.net> wrote:
> > Get rid of ZoneAlarm and get Tiny Personal
> > Firewall. It is so much better than ZoneAlarm
>
> Both cannot prevent spyware from sending your personal information
> across the Internet; both failed in our tests together with the rest of
the
> "Personal Firewalls".
>
> Both do not make a PC "invisible" or "stealth" in the Internet, as
> this is not possible at all.
>
> Tiny "Personal Firewall" does not filter all network services in the
> default configuration, Zonealarm does. This point goes to Zonealarm.
>
> Zonealarm is vulnerable to the SelfDoS attack, Tiny not. This point
> goes to Tiny.
>
> Tiny "Personal Firewall" installs SYSTEM-Services, which open
> windows.
>
> This is a gross error, because this breaches security. Tiny show here,
> that they never read Microsoft's design guidlines for system services:
>
>
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/ [...] ervices.as
p?fr
> ame=true#security_considerations_for_interactive_services
>
> For a software, which should enhance security, this design flaw means the
> declaration of bankruptcy.
>
> I'd not say, it is a good idea to use Zonealarm, though. I'd just
> shutdown the network servers which are running in Windows' default
> configuration, so no port filter is needed any more. Those tools
> could help:
>
> http://www.dingens.org/index.html.en
> http://www.ntsvcfg.de/ntsvcfg_eng.html
>
> I'd use IPSec-filtering of Windows 2000, if I had to have a filter with
> this operating system. If this is too complicated to configure, perhaps
> I'd use Kerio, because this "Personal Firewall" was the least bad
> "Personal Firewall" in our test, though I'm not convinced of it at all.

Well, neither can a firewall appliance, either. Tiny
was designed to be the software equivalent of a
hardware appliance. It blocks by application, and
by port, but not by anything else.

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"Charles Newman" <charlesnewman1@spamfilter.home.comcast.net> wrote in
message news:_bGdnT1QuoXMH4beRVn-tg@comcast.com...
>
> "Volker Birk" <bumens@dingens.org> wrote in message
> news:431b7bd6@news.uni-ulm.de...
>> Charles Newman <charlesnewman1@spamfilter.home.comcast.net> wrote:
>> > Get rid of ZoneAlarm and get Tiny Personal
>> > Firewall. It is so much better than ZoneAlarm
>>
>> Both cannot prevent spyware from sending your personal information
>> across the Internet; both failed in our tests together with the rest of
> the
>> "Personal Firewalls".
>>
>> Both do not make a PC "invisible" or "stealth" in the Internet, as
>> this is not possible at all.
>>
>> Tiny "Personal Firewall" does not filter all network services in the
>> default configuration, Zonealarm does. This point goes to Zonealarm.
>>
>> Zonealarm is vulnerable to the SelfDoS attack, Tiny not. This point
>> goes to Tiny.
>>
>> Tiny "Personal Firewall" installs SYSTEM-Services, which open
>> windows.
>>
>> This is a gross error, because this breaches security. Tiny show here,
>> that they never read Microsoft's design guidlines for system services:
>>
>>
> http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/ [...] ervices.as
> p?fr
>> ame=true#security_considerations_for_interactive_services
>>
>> For a software, which should enhance security, this design flaw means the
>> declaration of bankruptcy.
>>
>> I'd not say, it is a good idea to use Zonealarm, though. I'd just
>> shutdown the network servers which are running in Windows' default
>> configuration, so no port filter is needed any more. Those tools
>> could help:
>>
>> http://www.dingens.org/index.html.en
>> http://www.ntsvcfg.de/ntsvcfg_eng.html
>>
>> I'd use IPSec-filtering of Windows 2000, if I had to have a filter with
>> this operating system. If this is too complicated to configure, perhaps
>> I'd use Kerio, because this "Personal Firewall" was the least bad
>> "Personal Firewall" in our test, though I'm not convinced of it at all.
>
> Well, neither can a firewall appliance, either. Tiny
> was designed to be the software equivalent of a
> hardware appliance. It blocks by application, and
> by port, but not by anything else.

So how is that equivalent to a FW appliance, since a FW appliance can stop
traffic by port, protocol, IP or packet attribute or state inbound or
outbound? Mind you here Charles, I am not talking about a NAT router for
home usage.

Duane