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Staples has some 200GB hard drives on sale, but will it work in my Compaq
S4020WM purchased at Walmart a little over a year ago?
-E

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Most likely, yes. Jumper it CS for Cable Select.
HH

"Euclid" <euclid@mmiv.nu> wrote in message
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> Staples has some 200GB hard drives on sale, but will it work in my Compaq
> S4020WM purchased at Walmart a little over a year ago?
> -E
>
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OK, thanks, I'll probably get one at Staples tomorrow and try it. I'd really
like to have a SCSI drive for my op system but don't know enough about the
technical factors nor whether my computer could handle it.
-E

"HH" <hahunt42@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Most likely, yes. Jumper it CS for Cable Select.
> HH
>
> "Euclid" <euclid@mmiv.nu> wrote in message
> news:8yS9d.7560$UP1.706@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net...
>> Staples has some 200GB hard drives on sale, but will it work in my Compaq
>> S4020WM purchased at Walmart a little over a year ago?
>> -E
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SCSI would be an expensive solution for almost no benefit. It has its uses.
This just isn't one of them.

Tom
"Euclid" <euclid@mmiv.nu> wrote in message
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> OK, thanks, I'll probably get one at Staples tomorrow and try it. I'd
> really like to have a SCSI drive for my op system but don't know enough
> about the technical factors nor whether my computer could handle it.
> -E
>
> "HH" <hahunt42@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:h8%9d.136$Z9.46@fe25.usenetserver.com...
>> Most likely, yes. Jumper it CS for Cable Select.
>> HH
>>
>> "Euclid" <euclid@mmiv.nu> wrote in message
>> news:8yS9d.7560$UP1.706@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net...
>>> Staples has some 200GB hard drives on sale, but will it work in my
>>> Compaq S4020WM purchased at Walmart a little over a year ago?
>>> -E
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
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Another point. Most PCs won't boot from a SCSI drive if there is an IDE
drive present.
HH

"Tom Scales" <tomtoo@softhome.net> wrote in message
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> SCSI would be an expensive solution for almost no benefit. It has its
> uses. This just isn't one of them.
>
> Tom
> "Euclid" <euclid@mmiv.nu> wrote in message
> news:xO%9d.7924$UP1.3261@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net...
>> OK, thanks, I'll probably get one at Staples tomorrow and try it. I'd
>> really like to have a SCSI drive for my op system but don't know enough
>> about the technical factors nor whether my computer could handle it.
>> -E
>>
>> "HH" <hahunt42@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:h8%9d.136$Z9.46@fe25.usenetserver.com...
>>> Most likely, yes. Jumper it CS for Cable Select.
>>> HH
>>>
>>> "Euclid" <euclid@mmiv.nu> wrote in message
>>> news:8yS9d.7560$UP1.706@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net...
>>>> Staples has some 200GB hard drives on sale, but will it work in my
>>>> Compaq S4020WM purchased at Walmart a little over a year ago?
>>>> -E
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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OK, I figured there were technical problems, but it would benefit me if I
had one. The IDE drives are too slow and unreliable for one of my database
applications that has constant heavy disk access. The experts with that
application software recommended the faster SCSI drives as the only possible
solution. Of course they're mostly university professors running
unix-related op systems, not windows.
-E

"HH" <hahunt42@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Another point. Most PCs won't boot from a SCSI drive if there is an IDE
> drive present.
> HH
>
> "Tom Scales" <tomtoo@softhome.net> wrote in message
> news:cb6dnXYKHtixhPTcRVn-gg@comcast.com...
>> SCSI would be an expensive solution for almost no benefit. It has its
>> uses. This just isn't one of them.
>>
>> Tom
>> "Euclid" <euclid@mmiv.nu> wrote in message
>> news:xO%9d.7924$UP1.3261@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net...
>>> OK, thanks, I'll probably get one at Staples tomorrow and try it. I'd
>>> really like to have a SCSI drive for my op system but don't know enough
>>> about the technical factors nor whether my computer could handle it.
>>> -E
>>>
>>> "HH" <hahunt42@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:h8%9d.136$Z9.46@fe25.usenetserver.com...
>>>> Most likely, yes. Jumper it CS for Cable Select.
>>>> HH
>>>>
>>>> "Euclid" <euclid@mmiv.nu> wrote in message
>>>> news:8yS9d.7560$UP1.706@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net...
>>>>> Staples has some 200GB hard drives on sale, but will it work in my
>>>>> Compaq S4020WM purchased at Walmart a little over a year ago?
>>>>> -E
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
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The experts are idiots.

If you need real speed, get a 10,000 RPM IDE drive and put it on a separate
controller Better yet, get a SATA controller and 10K drive.

SCSI is so last year.
"Euclid" <euclid@mmiv.nu> wrote in message
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> OK, I figured there were technical problems, but it would benefit me if I
> had one. The IDE drives are too slow and unreliable for one of my database
> applications that has constant heavy disk access. The experts with that
> application software recommended the faster SCSI drives as the only
> possible solution. Of course they're mostly university professors running
> unix-related op systems, not windows.
> -E
>
> "HH" <hahunt42@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:ae9ad.156$Z9.87@fe25.usenetserver.com...
>> Another point. Most PCs won't boot from a SCSI drive if there is an IDE
>> drive present.
>> HH
>>
>> "Tom Scales" <tomtoo@softhome.net> wrote in message
>> news:cb6dnXYKHtixhPTcRVn-gg@comcast.com...
>>> SCSI would be an expensive solution for almost no benefit. It has its
>>> uses. This just isn't one of them.
>>>
>>> Tom
>>> "Euclid" <euclid@mmiv.nu> wrote in message
>>> news:xO%9d.7924$UP1.3261@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net...
>>>> OK, thanks, I'll probably get one at Staples tomorrow and try it. I'd
>>>> really like to have a SCSI drive for my op system but don't know enough
>>>> about the technical factors nor whether my computer could handle it.
>>>> -E
>>>>
>>>> "HH" <hahunt42@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:h8%9d.136$Z9.46@fe25.usenetserver.com...
>>>>> Most likely, yes. Jumper it CS for Cable Select.
>>>>> HH
>>>>>
>>>>> "Euclid" <euclid@mmiv.nu> wrote in message
>>>>> news:8yS9d.7560$UP1.706@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net...
>>>>>> Staples has some 200GB hard drives on sale, but will it work in my
>>>>>> Compaq S4020WM purchased at Walmart a little over a year ago?
>>>>>> -E
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
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Perhpas I'll get the chance to test your opinion at some point--my SCSI at this
point still out performs my 7200 RPM IDE when paying avi files that are
processed by my encoder video card out to NTSC. Playback studders with the
7200 IDE--perhaps the 10,000 is enough to do the job. I'd welcome loosing the
SCSI card and HDD, simplifing the setup in my PC to one or two large IDEs....

Dale

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I'd be surprised if your hard drive was the limiting factor. I record DVD
quality video and play it back off a 5400rpm drive in an external USB2 case
and it plays flawlessly.

Tom
"DEJ57" <dej57@aol.com> wrote in message
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> Perhpas I'll get the chance to test your opinion at some point--my SCSI at
> this
> point still out performs my 7200 RPM IDE when paying avi files that are
> processed by my encoder video card out to NTSC. Playback studders with
> the
> 7200 IDE--perhaps the 10,000 is enough to do the job. I'd welcome loosing
> the
> SCSI card and HDD, simplifing the setup in my PC to one or two large
> IDEs....
>
> Dale

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Excellent point. May well be the 1996 16 bit capture/encoder video card I
use--but I can get smooth playback using the SCSI Quantum Vicking II--heck, had
it so long now I don't remember what its rotation speed is--likely 10,000...but
the 7200 IDE studders occasionally....when I got the SCSI way back when (1997)
it was to get video playback working smoothly with the above video card in my
4112--a 133/60 MHZ, 96 RAM, and 10,000 in IDE was unheard of, at least by
me....

Dale

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> If you need real speed, get a 10,000 RPM IDE drive and put it on a
> separate
> controller Better yet, get a SATA controller and 10K drive.

I've looked but can't find anyplace to order 10K IDE drives. I see them
mentioned in reviews only, so they must be very new. Got any links to retail
suppliers?
-E

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Try here:

http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProd [...] rty&DEPA=1

HH

"Euclid" <euclid@mmiv.nu> wrote in message
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>
>> If you need real speed, get a 10,000 RPM IDE drive and put it on a
>> separate
>> controller Better yet, get a SATA controller and 10K drive.
>
> I've looked but can't find anyplace to order 10K IDE drives. I see them
> mentioned in reviews only, so they must be very new. Got any links to
> retail suppliers?
> -E
>
>

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Thanks. It looks like only Western Digital makes the 10K IDE drives, and
calls them Raptors...
Western Digital Raptor 74GB 10,000RPM SATA Hard Drive, Model WD740GD, OEM
Drive Only
Specifications:
Capacity: 74GB
Average Seek Time: 4.5 ms
Buffer: 8MB
Rotational Speed: 10000 RPM
Interface: Serial ATA
Features: High Performance SATA Interface
Packaging: OEM Drive Only

Reading the reviews brings up several possible technical problems. For
example a SATA cable is required. I have no idea what that means, nor how it
will modify my computer. At present I have a cable which has a middle
connector for the slave drive, and would want the same. They also talk about
needing different drivers, and that the SATA drive won't work with some
motherboards or will require a special BIOS. That creates another big
research project, I suppose, which may put it beyond my capability or
interest. I'd like to have the speed, but can't stomach too many technical
uncertainties out of the gate...
-E


"HH" <hahunt42@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Try here:
>
> http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProd [...] rty&DEPA=1
>
> HH
>
> "Euclid" <euclid@mmiv.nu> wrote in message
> news:U4wbd.3887$gy1.3228@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net...
>>
>>> If you need real speed, get a 10,000 RPM IDE drive and put it on a
>>> separate
>>> controller Better yet, get a SATA controller and 10K drive.
>>
>> I've looked but can't find anyplace to order 10K IDE drives. I see them
>> mentioned in reviews only, so they must be very new. Got any links to
>> retail suppliers?
>> -E
>>
>>
>
>
>

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You would likely have to buy a PCI SATA controller card, since your Presario
onboard controller is an IDE controller. The SATA cable is round and uses a
much smaller connector. New Egg has the controller cards and cables, too.
Try here:

http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProd [...] 101&depa=1

HH

"Euclid" <euclid@mmiv.nu> wrote in message
news:eGybd.3084$6k2.967@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net...
> Thanks. It looks like only Western Digital makes the 10K IDE drives, and
> calls them Raptors...
> Western Digital Raptor 74GB 10,000RPM SATA Hard Drive, Model WD740GD, OEM
> Drive Only
> Specifications:
> Capacity: 74GB
> Average Seek Time: 4.5 ms
> Buffer: 8MB
> Rotational Speed: 10000 RPM
> Interface: Serial ATA
> Features: High Performance SATA Interface
> Packaging: OEM Drive Only
>
> Reading the reviews brings up several possible technical problems. For
> example a SATA cable is required. I have no idea what that means, nor how
> it will modify my computer. At present I have a cable which has a middle
> connector for the slave drive, and would want the same. They also talk
> about needing different drivers, and that the SATA drive won't work with
> some motherboards or will require a special BIOS. That creates another big
> research project, I suppose, which may put it beyond my capability or
> interest. I'd like to have the speed, but can't stomach too many technical
> uncertainties out of the gate...
> -E
>
>
> "HH" <hahunt42@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:Ygybd.346$Z9.179@fe25.usenetserver.com...
>> Try here:
>>
>> http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProd [...] rty&DEPA=1
>>
>> HH
>>
>> "Euclid" <euclid@mmiv.nu> wrote in message
>> news:U4wbd.3887$gy1.3228@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net...
>>>
>>>> If you need real speed, get a 10,000 RPM IDE drive and put it on a
>>>> separate
>>>> controller Better yet, get a SATA controller and 10K drive.
>>>
>>> I've looked but can't find anyplace to order 10K IDE drives. I see them
>>> mentioned in reviews only, so they must be very new. Got any links to
>>> retail suppliers?
>>> -E
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>

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